What if Kenny had drowned instead of Luke?

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  • Everyone would have lived... Wait this is Telltale, if Jane drowned I would imagine Luke would have went insane, Bonnie and Mike would still leave with Arvo and we would have to kill Luke or kill Kenny...

    lilbit903 posted: »

    I heard about this too a while back, kinda makes me wonder what would have happened if jane did drown, then how would things have turned out?

  • Sucks that they were planning on killing luke from the start :(

    dojo32161 posted: »

    Where did you hear this from? Gavin Hammon said a little while back that Luke's death was in early versions of the script he received.

  • You know, nice little detail with the change of subtitle colors!

    TheMissus posted: »

    A friend of mine actually made this vid to show how that would look like: Byebye Kenneth

    1. Indeed.
    2. How so? He takes off and then just thinks that taking off is fine?
    3. Lee actually tries to comfort Lily when they get the door open after she tells him to leave her alone.
    4. If Carver wanted to kill him, he would've when they caught him.

    * Poor Terry * He doesn't need to explain, they're justified, most of the time. * Where was Lee to go in that situation? If they weren't t

    1. Indeed my good gentleman!
    2. He went for a walk when they didn't know Carver was attacking...If he ran off while Carver was attacking I would be upset.
    3. Your point is? Luke probably tried to talk Kenny down but...You know Kenny.
    4. They were busy with the whole possible rebellion at the moment.
    Mrwalto69 posted: »

    * Indeed. * How so? He takes off and then just thinks that taking off is fine? * Lee actually tries to comfort Lily when they get the door

  • That's automatic with model swapping.

    That1Guy posted: »

    You know, nice little detail with the change of subtitle colors!

  • It wasn't. Gavin Hammon said the earliest draft had Luke drowning. Luke falling through the bridge in A House Divided is foreshadowing.

    HugoCorv posted: »

    Interestingly, it was Jane who was supposed to drown in the lake, but that was changed later. Some fans figured it out from the data in the files.

    1. Your boy Danny, is nuts!
    2. It's not that, it's the fact that he didn't even come back. Kenny gave up (if you choose it that way) and Carver didn't kill him.
    3. You said that if Lee wasn't trapped he would've taken off and i said that he was told to get the fuck away and still tried to comfort her. Point is, If Luke did get told to go away by Kenny, he didn't even try to stand up. Remember when Ben stood up for himself?
    4. Exactly, That was the best time to kill Luke, but he never did. So the whole Luke would die comment if he gave himself up is pretty far fetched.

    * Indeed my good gentleman! * He went for a walk when they didn't know Carver was attacking...If he ran off while Carver was attacking I wo

    1. "A gun will keep you warmer a night than a lady these days"
    2. Luke didn't know what was happening and took a breather. He came back and saw everyone dead or missing.
    3. Yes because Luke is calm and doesn't like to fight or argue with Kenny.
    4. No it isn't, he was more worried about Kenny, the next day he probably would have killed Luke.
    Mrwalto69 posted: »

    * Your boy Danny, is nuts! * It's not that, it's the fact that he didn't even come back. Kenny gave up (if you choose it that way) and Carv

  • He would have returned next season anyway
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  • Swamp Thing Kenny(made me think about the DBZ brolly movies the first two movies he was kinda normal and the third one he was a slimy swamp thing)

    Deathis posted: »

    He would have returned next season anyway

    1. "What's not to like"/
    2. Yeah like his "sexual slip up" there's no time for breathers.
    3. Yet he seemed more then comfortable arguing when he got caught with Jane.
    4. I highly doubt that. He could've killed any of them, the fact that he kept Alvin alive proves that he wouldn't of killed Luke.

    * "A gun will keep you warmer a night than a lady these days" * Luke didn't know what was happening and took a breather. He came back and s

  • The group only fell apart because Luke is the one who drowned.

    If it had been Kenny, it'd be a bless.

  • Kenny wouldnt die by drowning he just isnt the kind of guy that dies like that

  • Arvo would have murdered Clementine out of revenge once everyone was asleep, and would have fled on foot. Luke & Jane would have left to go after him when they discovered Clem. Bonnie, and Mike would have left together.

  • I don't think Arvo would have done it, I believe he shot Clem in the heat of the moment, he was willing to leave with Mike and Bonnie without getting any revenge, and then the opportunity presented itself, and it was a do it or don't do it moment.

    Kennyftw posted: »

    Arvo would have murdered Clementine out of revenge once everyone was asleep, and would have fled on foot. Luke & Jane would have left to go after him when they discovered Clem. Bonnie, and Mike would have left together.

  • Well, it would have been very different. For starters, I don't think the group cared that much for Kenny so they wouldn't have been extremely upset, I'm sure Clementine would be (depending on how you play her). Secondly, Arvo would have been treated a lot better by the group, none of them disliked him like Kenny and no one would have ran off with him. Although, none of them would have known how to fix the truck so they may not have been able to get the truck moving and also, Arvo wouldn't have shot Clementine. It would be difficult for Telltale to think of a good ending in this circumstance, maybe they could have the group on the move again and you get separated from Mike, Bonnie and Arvo or, you get in a bad situation and they run off and leave you there alone. Maybe in that situation you could only choose to save either Jane or Luke and if you save Luke you go with him to Wellington and get the same ending as you would with Kenny, and if you go with Jane you get the same ending you usually get from her.

    That could have been interesting but, it would have been a shocking and pointless end for Kenny's character, I think his 'death' when you choose between him and Jane (still wish it was Luke but, I'm glad he didn't hide the baby and get into a violent fight with Kenny) it goes with the narrative well since the season seemed to be pointing towards how broken Kenny is and if you would stay loyal to him.

  • Even if he didn't do it that night, he would have eventually. Remember you're talking about someone who shot an eleven year old girl. The kind of anger required to do that doesn't go away quickly. Someone willing to murder a child is not really sane anymore I don't think.

    dojo32161 posted: »

    I don't think Arvo would have done it, I believe he shot Clem in the heat of the moment, he was willing to leave with Mike and Bonnie without getting any revenge, and then the opportunity presented itself, and it was a do it or don't do it moment.

  • So you think because they would be nicer to him he wouldn't have shot clementine? Hate to break it to you but the hate required to kill a child doesn't get fixed with being nice. He was going to kill her for shooting his sister.

    Simply posted: »

    Well, it would have been very different. For starters, I don't think the group cared that much for Kenny so they wouldn't have been extremel

  • No, what I meant was if Bonnie and Mike never left then Arvo probably wouldn't have shot Clementine because he wouldn't have had the chance. Mike and Bonnie left because of Kenny so if he wasn't around they wouldn't have left. Don't worry, I'm not trying to put the blame on your precious Kenny:P

    Kennyftw posted: »

    So you think because they would be nicer to him he wouldn't have shot clementine? Hate to break it to you but the hate required to kill a child doesn't get fixed with being nice. He was going to kill her for shooting his sister.

  • dojo32161dojo32161 Moderator
    edited November 2014

    Nah, I still think he's sane. You don't have to be crazy to want to hurt or even murder a child, especially if they kill, or you believe they killed, someone you loved/liked, being a child doesn't justify those kinds of things. However, I also think he probably wouldn't do it in full view of everyone, unless it was like the situation in episode 5, where it's do it, or let her get away. Though, anything's possible, and we don't know a whole lot about him.

    Kennyftw posted: »

    Even if he didn't do it that night, he would have eventually. Remember you're talking about someone who shot an eleven year old girl. The

  • I said he'd do it when everyone was asleep. He's a coward, and liar by nature. He lied about the drugs, he chose to shoot a child. He was a bad egg.

    dojo32161 posted: »

    Nah, I still think he's sane. You don't have to be crazy to want to hurt or even murder a child, especially if they kill, or you believe the

  • When everyone's asleep? With a loud gun? That would wake everyone up before he could get out the door, especially with a bad leg. I think he knows he needs a group, or he's basically dead meat, his leg brace isn't exactly quiet.

    And we can't judge him about being a liar by nature, we have no idea what went on after we met him on the observation deck, and we're never allowed to ask him.

    Kennyftw posted: »

    I said he'd do it when everyone was asleep. He's a coward, and liar by nature. He lied about the drugs, he chose to shoot a child. He was a bad egg.

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