Yeah, it sucks how Telltale created a forced relationship between Clem and AJ. I thought this was a game about decisions to test your survival. I just hope Telltale gives more branching and allows us players to do more things in Season 3 so nothing feels too forced or simply on rails with minor interaction.
The relationship does seem a little forced I must confess, especially considering their mother tried to kill you and you barely got to know the father (depending on who he actually is). And yeah, if one of our arms is constantly occupied by him I can see Season 3 as tedious.
To be honest, I find myself liking AJ more when I take their parents + the Carver thing out of the equation. That being said, I would sacrifice Clementine's own well being for AJ if only because he's another survivor and it would seem the natural thing to do and if we know he would be safe afterwards.
But if it comes down to the choice of saving AJ or another capable, trustworthy survivor... I'd honestly lean towards the more capable of the two.
The thing that really gets me with this thing is, I don't feel ANY obligation to take care of him other than the fact that he's a human being. I don't feel responsible. I mean, I knew their parents for a grand total of a couple of weeks. At most. For all I know, AJ's father could be a murderer (and I'm not just talking about the possibility of him being Carver's son, cough George cough).
Whereas, if their parents were characters that I really got to know, that I empathised with and fully understood their troubles, pains and backstories, I would be more inclined and willing to help. I would look forward to supporting the successor of two great friends. I would enjoy the prospect of telling him stories about his mom and dad. And I would possess a strong will to see him through the apocalypse, putting him above other survivors and situations because of that bond.
But as it stands in the current light, the only reason I'm supporting AJ is because it's the 'humane' thing to do. Which I would understandingly do, but I would willingly leave AJ with another group if it was best for both of our safety.
I feel obligated to protect it. Lee did it for me, I'll do it for him. But you can bet your bottom dollar I'mma toss him at the first group that can take him.
Oh man... I can already feel all the hate you are going receive on this forum.
I believe the writers said something like "Clementine isnt… more at that point, yet" about leaving the baby behind. I sure hope there is an option to get rid of AJ in 3rd season.
I really dont want to be with the baby all season, let us do something with it. Or if it is there I dont want clem acting like its the most important thing ever and no one else matters at all like she acted with Kenny all last season
Yeah, fuck TellTale for forcing us to take care of a baby.
Just like how they forced us to take care of Clementine. I would've thrown her as bait to the walkers.
Survivalist for life.
Nah, i was joking, But i did see porn. DAMN YOU RESETING SAFE SEARCH! also, he is kind of stupid to leave the baby behind. My lee would have said. now clem, if you come across a person like you were when i found you, you help them survive, Be a Lee.
You want People as unstable as CHRISTA AND KENNY to take him?!
And clem isnt unstable as them? And less capable
BECAUSE OF HOW… more MUCH IM MAD AT YOU, THE SEARCH RESULTS TURNED UP DISGUSTING PORN THAT I HAD THE DISPLEASURE TO SEE!
Do you write this crap to look mature? Cause its not and neither is spamming memes either, or capslock
Christa was hardly unstable, she's one of the most logical and calm characters in the game, she does kill Michelle when she kills Omid but that's about it and it's fairly understandable, after that she still manages to take care of Clementine for like a year and a half, she's one of the few characters I'd actually trust with raising a child in the game.
Anyway I do agree with you that leaving the baby is kind off a dick move and doesn't seem like something Clementine would do, but to be fair Clementine probably can't take care of the baby, I mean she can barely take care of herself how the hell would she take care of the baby?
I mean just scavenging for food would be almost impossible for an adult, looking around with the baby in one arm leaves her defenceless and leaving the baby somewhere while she looks for supplies isn't a good idea because something could easily happen to the baby while she's gone, it could even choke on it's own spit, add to that the fact that Clementine is a kid and not very strong and you pretty much have the deaths of both of them guaranteed.
Anyway Season 3 is probably going to give us a group that helps her take care of him if Telltale decides to keep AJ alive, considering that without children there's no future I kinda want all kids to survive.
Oh, another? Sigh I will protect the baby, in honor of Rebecca and Alvin... BLAH BLAH BLAH ...find safety for the baby to make sure the world continues... And so on.
I doubt that Season 3 will focus on Clementine raising AJ, especially if she has to do it on her own because an adult doesn't know how to take care of a baby. Looking after a baby per episode will end up being repetitive, tedious, and damage the so-called relationship that Clementine and AJ has.
The problem is, is that Season 2 had a heavy-handed way on building a relationship between Clementine and AJ, since even if you try to abandon the baby, you're stuck with him no matter what. Not to mention that the baby is rarely seen having baby formula, rarely cries, doesn't get affected by the cold, and yet it manages to live and cause little trouble to anyone. As of now, AJ is nothing more than an object for us to coo on rather than a genuine baby in a zombie apocalypse with people struggling to take care of it due to the risks the baby carries.
If Telltale is smart, they'll cut down the time on having Clementine looking after AJ and make it purely optional, or simply have the baby given away to more capable and willing survivors in a community.
Plus I HATED Becca AND Alvin right from the get go and now I'm stuck with their lovechild? This is the REAL nightmare, not the zombies.
Honestly i agree, Its not Clementine's responsibility to care for this child. She is a child herself, she can't take care of it. She should pawn it off on the first adult that will take it.
Christa was hardly unstable, she's one of the most logical and calm characters in the game, she does kill Michelle when she kills Omid but that's about it and it's fairly understandable
Damn those pregnancy hormones! A few months ago, my sister was pregnant and she misplaced a large amount of cash in her house. She called the cops and said I stole it. Cops come to my house and tell me this, and have me write a written statement. Three days later she finds it in the sock drawer rolled up in a Sock. Did i get a apology? Nope. Never.
Sorry Pregnancy and Logic are like oil and water from my own experiences.
Christa was hardly unstable, she's one of the most logical and calm characters in the game, she does kill Michelle when she kills Omid but t… morehat's about it and it's fairly understandable, after that she still manages to take care of Clementine for like a year and a half, she's one of the few characters I'd actually trust with raising a child in the game.
Anyway I do agree with you that leaving the baby is kind off a dick move and doesn't seem like something Clementine would do, but to be fair Clementine probably can't take care of the baby, I mean she can barely take care of herself how the hell would she take care of the baby?
I mean just scavenging for food would be almost impossible for an adult, looking around with the baby in one arm leaves her defenceless and leaving the baby somewhere while she looks for supplies isn't a good idea because something could easily happen to the baby while she's gone, it could even choke on it's own s… [view original content]
Forgive me for being more concerned about Clementine than AJ. Why would i think it would be acceptable for Clementine to be burdened with a newborn that she can't take care of. She has no food, no medicine, no experience. Babies need constant supervision and attention. That is just the physical requirements. How do you think Clementine will feel if the baby dies because she made a mistake or something happens to AJ.
I think it is a mistake to burden a eleven year old girl with a newborn. That is just me. She doesn't need that emotional responsibility. She can't do it.
Yeah, I know but that's what I mean exactly, she's able to act fairly rational and logical most of the time despite the fact that she's pregnant and has all that hormonal shit going on, which must mean that when she's back to normal she's pretty likely to be calm and logical and probably one of the characters that's more able to take care of a child in the apocalypse, specially considering that she seems to value teaching kids how to survive on their own, which is really useful.
Christa was hardly unstable, she's one of the most logical and calm characters in the game, she does kill Michelle when she kills Omid but t… morehat's about it and it's fairly understandable
Damn those pregnancy hormones! A few months ago, my sister was pregnant and she misplaced a large amount of cash in her house. She called the cops and said I stole it. Cops come to my house and tell me this, and have me write a written statement. Three days later she finds it in the sock drawer rolled up in a Sock. Did i get a apology? Nope. Never.
Sorry Pregnancy and Logic are like oil and water from my own experiences.
Dude no I completely respect your opinion I am just saying Zyke and this guy just hate this baby so much and they want to left him to die. I know Clementine's more important but leaving a baby? It would be disrespectful for the people who died trying to save the baby.
Forgive me for being more concerned about Clementine than AJ. Why would i think it would be acceptable for Clementine to be burdened with … morea newborn that she can't take care of. She has no food, no medicine, no experience. Babies need constant supervision and attention. That is just the physical requirements. How do you think Clementine will feel if the baby dies because she made a mistake or something happens to AJ.
I think it is a mistake to burden a eleven year old girl with a newborn. That is just me. She doesn't need that emotional responsibility. She can't do it.
That statement isnt even debateable, since most babies are indeed "fat" or just chubby. Or if you are talking about the other meaning, babie… mores puke, pee and shit all around, so unless you are into emetophilia, scat and watersports, they indeed are gross.
Aren't most of Clem's relationships forced? She was forced to depend on Lee (though she didn't seem to mind), forced to hang out with Duck, forced to stick with Christa, forced to stick with the group, etc.
This is the apocalypse. You don't really get to pick and choose your friends.
Yeah, it sucks how Telltale created a forced relationship between Clem and AJ. I thought this was a game about decisions to test your surviv… moreal. I just hope Telltale gives more branching and allows us players to do more things in Season 3 so nothing feels too forced or simply on rails with minor interaction.
Just because your sister acted like that doesn't mean Christa necessarily would. We've seen no evidence of her behaving like that, aside from angrily snapping once or twice, and that could easily be attributed to simply stressful situations.
Christa was hardly unstable, she's one of the most logical and calm characters in the game, she does kill Michelle when she kills Omid but t… morehat's about it and it's fairly understandable
Damn those pregnancy hormones! A few months ago, my sister was pregnant and she misplaced a large amount of cash in her house. She called the cops and said I stole it. Cops come to my house and tell me this, and have me write a written statement. Three days later she finds it in the sock drawer rolled up in a Sock. Did i get a apology? Nope. Never.
Sorry Pregnancy and Logic are like oil and water from my own experiences.
Just because your sister acted like that doesn't mean Christa necessarily would. We've seen no evidence of her behaving like that, aside from angrily snapping once or twice, and that could easily be attributed to simply stressful situations.
Yeah, I know but that's what I mean exactly, she's able to act fairly rational and logical most of the time despite the fact that she's preg… morenant and has all that hormonal shit going on, which must mean that when she's back to normal she's pretty likely to be calm and logical and probably one of the characters that's more able to take care of a child in the apocalypse, specially considering that she seems to value teaching kids how to survive on their own, which is really useful.
That is why i would of pawned it off on the first adult possible. Clementine doesn't need that responsibility in her life. She never had the chance to be a child.
Dude no I completely respect your opinion I am just saying Zyke and this guy just hate this baby so much and they want to left him to die. I… more know Clementine's more important but leaving a baby? It would be disrespectful for the people who died trying to save the baby.
Well yeah, everyone is unstable, it's hard to imagine anyone being stable in that situation but she's one of the more stable characters and like I said probably one of the few that could actually raise a child in that environment.
And yeah, Nate was really interesting I would have loved to see more of him, I wasn't quite sure what to make of him from the little we saw but yeah at least he didn't seem like he was pretending to be sane, the world was batshit crazy and so was he, he was both nice and cruel, not to mention cold and unscrupulous, but he made jokes and saved a stranger's life twice and acts like it's no big deal at all, he's interesting but I don't know if I'd trust him with raising a child.
Well considering how stupid it is for adults to seek the advice of a child maybe AJ will be giving Clementine the orders.... You play as AJ riding on the back of Clementine shouting at her what to do. If that was the case it would be to cover Jane's face with a pillow while she slept.
This would be the thing that made sense but TellTale seems hell bent on every tiny part of the story being a horrible tragedy. To be honest it's becoming predictable, and lazy on part of the writers.
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I think Aj is marked for Death
Yeah, it sucks how Telltale created a forced relationship between Clem and AJ. I thought this was a game about decisions to test your survival. I just hope Telltale gives more branching and allows us players to do more things in Season 3 so nothing feels too forced or simply on rails with minor interaction.
LEaving a baby to die during a zombie apocalypse. I can tell you're a nice person.
I must have. The camera focusing on Luke for half of that conversation said otherwise, though.
She does sound sincere while she says that.
I had always hoped that clementine would meet up with christa and give the baby to her.
It's funny how you say that yet your profile picture is Glenn.
A guy with morals and is humane.
The relationship does seem a little forced I must confess, especially considering their mother tried to kill you and you barely got to know the father (depending on who he actually is). And yeah, if one of our arms is constantly occupied by him I can see Season 3 as tedious.
To be honest, I find myself liking AJ more when I take their parents + the Carver thing out of the equation. That being said, I would sacrifice Clementine's own well being for AJ if only because he's another survivor and it would seem the natural thing to do and if we know he would be safe afterwards.
But if it comes down to the choice of saving AJ or another capable, trustworthy survivor... I'd honestly lean towards the more capable of the two.
The thing that really gets me with this thing is, I don't feel ANY obligation to take care of him other than the fact that he's a human being. I don't feel responsible. I mean, I knew their parents for a grand total of a couple of weeks. At most. For all I know, AJ's father could be a murderer (and I'm not just talking about the possibility of him being Carver's son, cough George cough).
Whereas, if their parents were characters that I really got to know, that I empathised with and fully understood their troubles, pains and backstories, I would be more inclined and willing to help. I would look forward to supporting the successor of two great friends. I would enjoy the prospect of telling him stories about his mom and dad. And I would possess a strong will to see him through the apocalypse, putting him above other survivors and situations because of that bond.
But as it stands in the current light, the only reason I'm supporting AJ is because it's the 'humane' thing to do. Which I would understandingly do, but I would willingly leave AJ with another group if it was best for both of our safety.
I feel obligated to protect it. Lee did it for me, I'll do it for him. But you can bet your bottom dollar I'mma toss him at the first group that can take him.
Yeah, fuck TellTale for forcing us to take care of a baby.
Just like how they forced us to take care of Clementine. I would've thrown her as bait to the walkers.
Survivalist for life.
There was in Season 2, except the damn writers didn't use it. Game files show AJ becomes a walker.
I really dont want to be with the baby all season, let us do something with it. Or if it is there I dont want clem acting like its the most important thing ever and no one else matters at all like she acted with Kenny all last season
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what if clem was AJ and lee was clem in a parallel universe and lee abandons clem just like clem abandons AJ . this everything wouldnt have happened
well, your a disgusting Human being...
And clem isnt unstable as them? And less capable
Do you write this crap to look mature? Cause its not and neither is spamming memes either, or capslock
Nah, i was joking, But i did see porn. DAMN YOU RESETING SAFE SEARCH! also, he is kind of stupid to leave the baby behind. My lee would have said. now clem, if you come across a person like you were when i found you, you help them survive, Be a Lee.
Christa was hardly unstable, she's one of the most logical and calm characters in the game, she does kill Michelle when she kills Omid but that's about it and it's fairly understandable, after that she still manages to take care of Clementine for like a year and a half, she's one of the few characters I'd actually trust with raising a child in the game.
Anyway I do agree with you that leaving the baby is kind off a dick move and doesn't seem like something Clementine would do, but to be fair Clementine probably can't take care of the baby, I mean she can barely take care of herself how the hell would she take care of the baby?
I mean just scavenging for food would be almost impossible for an adult, looking around with the baby in one arm leaves her defenceless and leaving the baby somewhere while she looks for supplies isn't a good idea because something could easily happen to the baby while she's gone, it could even choke on it's own spit, add to that the fact that Clementine is a kid and not very strong and you pretty much have the deaths of both of them guaranteed.
Anyway Season 3 is probably going to give us a group that helps her take care of him if Telltale decides to keep AJ alive, considering that without children there's no future I kinda want all kids to survive.
Oh, another? Sigh I will protect the baby, in honor of Rebecca and Alvin... BLAH BLAH BLAH ...find safety for the baby to make sure the world continues... And so on.
Yeah, well, you were one too.... so.....
I doubt that Season 3 will focus on Clementine raising AJ, especially if she has to do it on her own because an adult doesn't know how to take care of a baby. Looking after a baby per episode will end up being repetitive, tedious, and damage the so-called relationship that Clementine and AJ has.
The problem is, is that Season 2 had a heavy-handed way on building a relationship between Clementine and AJ, since even if you try to abandon the baby, you're stuck with him no matter what. Not to mention that the baby is rarely seen having baby formula, rarely cries, doesn't get affected by the cold, and yet it manages to live and cause little trouble to anyone. As of now, AJ is nothing more than an object for us to coo on rather than a genuine baby in a zombie apocalypse with people struggling to take care of it due to the risks the baby carries.
If Telltale is smart, they'll cut down the time on having Clementine looking after AJ and make it purely optional, or simply have the baby given away to more capable and willing survivors in a community.
Don't you mean "wiggler" as AJ can't even crawl yet, let alone walk?
Honestly i agree, Its not Clementine's responsibility to care for this child. She is a child herself, she can't take care of it. She should pawn it off on the first adult that will take it.
You can disagree with someone, but no need to be rude. Stop acting your age.
Damn those pregnancy hormones! A few months ago, my sister was pregnant and she misplaced a large amount of cash in her house. She called the cops and said I stole it. Cops come to my house and tell me this, and have me write a written statement. Three days later she finds it in the sock drawer rolled up in a Sock. Did i get a apology? Nope. Never.
Sorry Pregnancy and Logic are like oil and water from my own experiences.
Zyke! Did you see this? You have got a new pal!
Forgive me for being more concerned about Clementine than AJ. Why would i think it would be acceptable for Clementine to be burdened with a newborn that she can't take care of. She has no food, no medicine, no experience. Babies need constant supervision and attention. That is just the physical requirements. How do you think Clementine will feel if the baby dies because she made a mistake or something happens to AJ.
I think it is a mistake to burden a eleven year old girl with a newborn. That is just me. She doesn't need that emotional responsibility. She can't do it.
Yeah, I know but that's what I mean exactly, she's able to act fairly rational and logical most of the time despite the fact that she's pregnant and has all that hormonal shit going on, which must mean that when she's back to normal she's pretty likely to be calm and logical and probably one of the characters that's more able to take care of a child in the apocalypse, specially considering that she seems to value teaching kids how to survive on their own, which is really useful.
Dude no I completely respect your opinion I am just saying Zyke and this guy just hate this baby so much and they want to left him to die. I know Clementine's more important but leaving a baby? It would be disrespectful for the people who died trying to save the baby.
Adults also puke, pee, and shit. Just saying. And what does babies being chubby have to do with anything?
Aren't most of Clem's relationships forced? She was forced to depend on Lee (though she didn't seem to mind), forced to hang out with Duck, forced to stick with Christa, forced to stick with the group, etc.
This is the apocalypse. You don't really get to pick and choose your friends.
Just because your sister acted like that doesn't mean Christa necessarily would. We've seen no evidence of her behaving like that, aside from angrily snapping once or twice, and that could easily be attributed to simply stressful situations.
Did you miss the part where she shot a unarmed girl over a mistake?
She definitely had her moments, I personally feel that everyone is unstable in this game. The only person that doesn't pretend to be "normal" is Nate.
That is why i would of pawned it off on the first adult possible. Clementine doesn't need that responsibility in her life. She never had the chance to be a child.
Well yeah, everyone is unstable, it's hard to imagine anyone being stable in that situation but she's one of the more stable characters and like I said probably one of the few that could actually raise a child in that environment.
And yeah, Nate was really interesting I would have loved to see more of him, I wasn't quite sure what to make of him from the little we saw but yeah at least he didn't seem like he was pretending to be sane, the world was batshit crazy and so was he, he was both nice and cruel, not to mention cold and unscrupulous, but he made jokes and saved a stranger's life twice and acts like it's no big deal at all, he's interesting but I don't know if I'd trust him with raising a child.
Well considering how stupid it is for adults to seek the advice of a child maybe AJ will be giving Clementine the orders.... You play as AJ riding on the back of Clementine shouting at her what to do. If that was the case it would be to cover Jane's face with a pillow while she slept.
Of course it is. If AJ starts looking like Luke Jane will probably sacrifice Clem to raise him.
This would be the thing that made sense but TellTale seems hell bent on every tiny part of the story being a horrible tragedy. To be honest it's becoming predictable, and lazy on part of the writers.