They could have done something with Clem and Carver

An option to be Carver's apprentice would have been great it was touched with the option to say "I'll help" but they never really explored it. Having the main antagonist of Season 2 dying in the beginning was kinda bull shit. Episode 4 and 5 didn't really have any direction after his death.

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  • This is why you want professional authors working on games like this.

  • Yeah, they could have done better with that (I respect Telltale but holy Fucking shit there are so many things they left unexplained,unresolved or were just pointless)

  • The correct story arch should have been the escape from Carver's was the end of the game.

    Saltlick123 posted: »

    Yeah, they could have done better with that (I respect Telltale but holy Fucking shit there are so many things they left unexplained,unresolved or were just pointless)

  • Or someone with at least some passion.

    Kennyftw posted: »

    This is why you want professional authors working on games like this.

  • It didn't have to be that but they could have done things more relevant to the story (Like members of Carvers camp instead of russians,More of the 400 days characters, Not so lame Sarah and Nick deaths)

    Kennyftw posted: »

    The correct story arch should have been the escape from Carver's was the end of the game.

  • exactly. Being an author isn't easy though. They should have signed some people that have a proven record (sold novels) as writers. That's how you get some really rich, and believable story in a game.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    Or someone with at least some passion.

  • Yeah the Carver plot should have lasted the whole season so we had more time to explore his character and Howes, be his "apprentice" if we wanted to.

  • I've read some posts from forum users written better than S2 Story.

    Kennyftw posted: »

    exactly. Being an author isn't easy though. They should have signed some people that have a proven record (sold novels) as writers. That's how you get some really rich, and believable story in a game.

  • xD that reminds me of the time that person made the thread "Clem's first fuck" only for it to be about her swearing in ep.5

    They could have done something with Clem and Carver The title scared me a little.

  • They could have done something with Clem and Carver

    The title scared me a little.

  • Yeah if they were going to kill off Sarah it should have been by Carver's orders which would have made it that much more intense. Nick could have died trying to save her.

    Saltlick123 posted: »

    It didn't have to be that but they could have done things more relevant to the story (Like members of Carvers camp instead of russians,More of the 400 days characters, Not so lame Sarah and Nick deaths)

  • edited November 2014

    Or in the shootout

    Kennyftw posted: »

    Yeah if they were going to kill off Sarah it should have been by Carver's orders which would have made it that much more intense. Nick could have died trying to save her.

  • i stand by my statement. There are some very talented writers here.

  • Completely agree.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    i stand by my statement. There are some very talented writers here.

  • Having the antagonist die that early isn't bull shit. S1 never had an overarching villain (well the stranger, sort of, but he wasn't really present and didn't have any affect on tale story until the very end).

  • Even though I wish Carver had survived longer - as all of ya probably know, Carver was my number one - I think he died in the right moment. The real problem is, that the game failed a little to continue it.

    This particular choice: [Watch Carver's death] or [Leave with Sarita] should've been more meaningful later on, could have created separate paths for players to follow, bit by bit led them to the final realizing on which side we stay - survival or humanity, and consequently, what kind of person we've become. Game has raised this subject, but I feel like it didn't finish it. Each Clementine is the same person, with a few distinct memories and slightly different personality. Carver's plot hardly does count in all of this. I expect such improvement to appear in S3.

  • I think it's the fact that Carver was built up as such an intelligent, bad villain in Ep 1 and 2, only to be presented with the Governor in Ep. 3 who was then killed rather quickly.

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    Having the antagonist die that early isn't bull shit. S1 never had an overarching villain (well the stranger, sort of, but he wasn't really present and didn't have any affect on tale story until the very end).

  • Well not always but in this case it was. The first story was more about Lee bonding with Clementine, and her becoming more than a helpless survivor. Carver from the get go was hunting them. He captured them. He killed some of their group. A married woman was carrying his child. Carver had real animosity towards Kenny (for challenging his authority), for Luke, and others. Carver, had a ton of material that could have went into the story.

    What should have happened is Carver would have appeared as a much more sympathetic character with Rebecca appearing as a liar who cheated on her husband, and Carver just wanting to be in his child's life. Only later as the story unfolded would you find he was a horrible human being. Maybe some deaths that appeared as accidents would turn out to be by him. The forth installment would be you trying to figure out who was really with you, and who was with Carver. Then the finale is the escape from the store.

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    Having the antagonist die that early isn't bull shit. S1 never had an overarching villain (well the stranger, sort of, but he wasn't really present and didn't have any affect on tale story until the very end).

  • I think he died in the right moment. The real problem is, that the game failed a little to continue it.

    I agree, if TT is going to kill off a villain that early, that person should have had a meaningful impact. But like you said, all it changed was a few memories that added nothing really. I'm hoping S3 will have more meaningful choices that will alter our character later on.

    fallandir posted: »

    Even though I wish Carver had survived longer - as all of ya probably know, Carver was my number one - I think he died in the right moment.

  • The real choice at the end should be to stay with Jane, Bonnie, Mike, and some others at the store after killing Carver or do you hit the road with Kenny, Luke, Nick, Sarah and some others.

  • edited November 2014

    I completely agree about his portrayal being completely different (disappointingly so) from what they ended up making of his character. He was an extremely underwhelming, uncomplicated, dime a dozen - do it cuz' I can bad guy with completely unremarkable reasoning and justification for doing what he was doing. Boring. I just don't feel writing him off quickly was a flaw, and if it was it wasn't hardly comparable to the other flaws.

    torkahn808 posted: »

    I think it's the fact that Carver was built up as such an intelligent, bad villain in Ep 1 and 2, only to be presented with the Governor in Ep. 3 who was then killed rather quickly.

  • I'm hoping S3 will have more meaningful choices that will alter our character later on.

    Yes please. :> There are so many possibilities.

    I think he died in the right moment. The real problem is, that the game failed a little to continue it. I agree, if TT is going to k

  • I don't agree with the first paragraph. It could have worked as you said, but it could have just as easily worked without it. So I still don't see writing him off quickly as specifically bad.

    As for the second paragraph I mostly agree. Though you don't need to drag it out over 5 episodes is TTG wouldn't have been on that basic shit. I agree he could have had more depth and interesting traits, reasoning, and logic, but those are problems with his character (or lack thereof) and not his time on screen. It's like saying Scruffy from Futurama would be a better character if he got more time to show who he is, when it truth it would have just been a wasted episode because he has little to offer.

    Kennyftw posted: »

    Well not always but in this case it was. The first story was more about Lee bonding with Clementine, and her becoming more than a helpless

  • Please TTG, if your out there... Please listen to our prayers.

    fallandir posted: »

    I'm hoping S3 will have more meaningful choices that will alter our character later on. Yes please. :> There are so many possibilities.

  • Yeah I felt like that had meaning to it later. Like Kenny will say "lost your taste for this kind of thing" if you stayed and told Kenny to stop hitting Arvo but that just felt really stupid

    fallandir posted: »

    Even though I wish Carver had survived longer - as all of ya probably know, Carver was my number one - I think he died in the right moment.

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