Clem + Baby = Huge Time Jump in S3
Seeing that Clem + Baby was only repeating equation in all 7 different endings I think its very possible we will have huge time jump in next WD season.
Lets face it: Telltale killed off or make determinant most of interesting chars from 1st two season. Most of their stories concluded. So, no real point to going back for any of remaining ones. We will maybe see couple of them as much older verions of themselves but it will be minor things looking more like cameo appearances then addition to main storyline.
Clem's current age is already explored in this game, so no point to go back there for another season. With addition of her nursing the baby. Its kind of boring and unplayable. And to make baby only real survivor from season 2 other then Clem just to see that baby killed at some point of season 3 doesnt make real emotional value. Who can really attach to crying baby? It has no character. Nothing for players to indentify with and feel any kind of lost if baby is killed.
No, I think Telletale's plan is to make time jump like they've made 1 year and 4 months jump at the begging of season 2 but this time I think they will make it even bigger. Clem will not be child anymore but young adault. Arvin Jr will be kid, near to Clem's age in S1, old enough to show us his character threads.
In this way story will deverge from anything we saw in first 2 seasons and introduce us many new characters and plots. It will be great challenge for writers too because none of the others walking dead storylines in other media (comics and tv show) strawled this far in WD unverse. We will see if that universe have real hope to rise itself beyond zombie appocalipse or not beyond just mare survival but also new expansion of human civilisation. Raising children. Making new food supplies. Making new medicines. Making new weapons. So far they only collected remaining ones but those supplies aren't endless. What will be the future of WD universe if people doesn't find the way to organise beyond mere survival?
I think we will see much of that in season 3. I hope of 10 years time jump or so.
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The game can't go that far because of the comics, which are only two years ahead of the game's timeline. But why would you even want it to be skipped ten years? We would miss out on a lot of what Clem has been through and we wouldn't have had any control over Clem and AJ's personality at the present.
At the beginning of season 2 it was 16 months later, that is 1 year and 4 months.
10 years time jump is impossible because: 1) game depends on the comics, and it hasn't been such a long period of time since ZA started (someone correct me if I'm wrong), 2) it would skip pretty much everything we're expecting to see, like the final evolution of Clem's character and the origins of AJ's development, also the results of multiple endings.
Besides, the "9 days later" could be the beggining of S3, a little hint suggesting that the next season will start right off the bat.
I think the most plausible is 3 years time jump,and it's enough to build up character for Clem & AJ.
No.
No². In the true, I want the game end on S3 and passing the story of clementine for the comics.
Lets say there were out in the wild. In that case we woudn't miss a thing. Except how they've build their relationship for years. But we will get update on that from current happenings.
Well, season 2 hasnt got its time jump right at the start, so those 9 days later can also be seen at beginning of season 3 but be pretty much irrelevant right after.
Why should game depend on the comics? Zombie apocalypse is very well covered in all media ever since George Romero did his 1st Living Dead movie. There are movies that goes well beyond frist several years of zombie apocalypse. Romero did one as I recall.
Three year child not much of a character. I still dont see anything interesting happening there. Ok, we will attach to him much more then baby, you are right there but that means he is bound to become cannon fooder for zombies because not so much story could be build around him. He would just be like mute movie character in most part.
Dont think Kirkman would care for Character not from his own creative space.
Because TWDG game happens in the universe of the comics. That's why it depends on it and has to follow its storyline.
Telltale did it once...
If they time skip Clementine, they ruin her character.
Its more likely its all a dream.
He would accept her just to kill her in the most gory of ways soon after.
Well, after two season of following they could go to time far ahead where comic will never go (or game would be long forgotten if it ever got there) so game become more independent of comics which gives more space to writters
Exactly. So its pointless to marge it with comics. Its better to devide game and comics to separate time lines so they dont even intersect. Easier to write that way. Then writter of game not obliged to follow what Kirkman is writting now.
Nah, dream thing its too used already.
Yeah... maybe. I don't think he is too bad to make that. I mean, he said he likes the game... EDIT: I will not lie, I wanted her in the comics just to see her with Carl. =/
But what happens if the comic ends with all of humanity dying? Or something else happens during that span, like zombies getting smarter? It would be weird if we were fighting less intelligent zombies than the smarter ones that could be going on in the comics.
Not a dream lol.
Carmentine?
What?
S2 was all a dream.
Oh, okay, shipp. But Clem is older than Clementine in the comic's cronology, just to say.
You mean Carl is older? Yeah.
No. In the comic already spent four years. Clem, later two years was 11, Carl was 9. When the game pass again two years and be at the same place where the comic is, her will be 13 and Carl is 11.
Never read the comics, I always assumed Carl was older. Thanks for the info
EDIT: So Carl was 7 when the ZA started?
Then, comic universe and game universe will not be same one but alternative versions of similar universe.
I dont think its likely to happen doing game's developement, anyway. Kirkman is not so keen to kill his golden goose already. And, if it happenes after game is already done and done, who would really care? Except some ultra fans of both game and book, maybe.
Both S1 and S2 was all a dream. Dream of game writters. But, thats too transparent to put in actual game, too self explenatory and too weak.
It will never ever happen.
Yep.
http://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/comment/1702336#Comment_1702336
I've already read your fan made "What if" theory.
If something seems possible it doesnt makes it true. Fact is, if writters really planned that all along they would then lay lots of little clues along the way. For example, some character had some dream and told everyone about it. Comments other characters made about that dream then could interpret as writter's own stand toward story in whole and possiblity everything is a dream.
Nothing like that happened. There is absolutely not a single clue that what you think its happening is really what happened. Game doesnt gives that kind of clues about your interpretation. Its just your interpretation. What you imagine that is happening and what you imagine charaters really represents. Not a single indirect clue inside story itself thats what's really happening.
So, I think its highely unlikely. Same way we could pinpoint some previous point in Clem's life and claim dream started there. Why dog? Maybe she started to dream when she got wounded in season 1 when she wake in that van and had that conversation with Lee that was also repeated in last episode od season 2. We can even consider that as clue from writters that point is more significant for overal story then we initially presumed. That conversation placed in season 2 can really consider as a clue.
1 clue more then your theory with dog has. That dog bite was forgotten. She doesnt have halucinations about it. Writters doesnt prepare us that this is explanation. So, highly unlikely.
Nice idea Grafite I think we should be following Clem almost everything. Like how she learned how to make a fire or learn to hunt more during that 16 month time jump back at the first episode of season 2. I felt like I missed a lot when that happened on how much she change and act
Nobody can get attached to a crying baby? I'm very attached to him.
telltale can't go further than the comic timeline so the oldest clem can be in season 3 is 13
They could do anything they like, same as creators of Game of Thrones TV show did with Martin's books. Not like Kirkman really cares where game ends. No one will stop them if they decide to time jump further then comics.
Why?
ummm yes kirkman can stop them and while he might not care about the game he still most likely cares about the canon of the universe they literally can't go further than the comic because if they do they are basically in control of what happens in the universe in the future and that would mean the canon is broken what if he decided the end twd and telltale were ahead? it wouldn't make sense