He jad no choice when he escaped, he had to leave her there, and he didnt knkw daryl and carrol at this point, he didnt rob them needlessly, he need the stuff to survive, thats just the world they live in now, once they all worked out they were on the same side noah has been super loyal...
No hesitation, he just offerdd to go back to the hospital so the deal could be done..
Well thats pretty stupid because she could have got everyone killed. Noah was hardly a sunshine himself, he got away with Beths help and left her there, then he robbed Carol and Daryl and almost got them killed.
I hated the entire hospital arc. It's the same kind of bullshit that Howe's and Carver was. Everyone hates the leader but no one has the brain cells necessary to kill the horrible leader and make the hospital/howe's a better place. The entire half season should have been about Gareth and the cannibals, now that was an interesting character and a great actor.
Based on what information? The only thing that corroborates your thinking is the one event with the man in the cabin. Not only doesn't he kill him with a lot of reason to, he stops the others members from going in who would undoubtedly end him. He could have let them go in and finish him, the blood wouldn't have been on his hands, but he doesn't because he feels things don't need to be like they are. He has morals. Tyreese isn't tottering his emotional state like Rick was. He already went through his trial and he didn't succumb to his primal do or die nature. He has morals.
I don't think so. As I said previously, I believe he is attempting to restrain his true nature of brutality. Him distancing himself, and bec… moreoming detached from the group, save for Sasha, shows how much he's trying to hold back. Still, he's eventually going to snap and give in, just like every other character. Rick was like that for a little, and now look at him.
if you want to go through by "seasons" then yes.... season 1 of the show is better than season 2 of the game. other than that, season two is better. but again overall i count them as one. the show is all 5 seasons and the game is both seasons. and the game is BY FAR BETTER than the show
if robert kirkman thinks he can kill off my favorite character without any closer. he'd better be prepared to lose his leg. cause im gonna RIP IT OFF AND SHOW HIM AND HIS FAMILY HOW HERSHEL AND BETH FELT!!!!!!!!!!
Rest In Peperoni little Beth Greene... Tell Hershel We Said Hi...
I hated the entire hospital arc. It's the same kind of bullshit that Howe's and Carver was. Everyone hates the leader but no one has the bra… morein cells necessary to kill the horrible leader and make the hospital/howe's a better place. The entire half season should have been about Gareth and the cannibals, now that was an interesting character and a great actor.
We will just have to agree to disagree then. I find it quite obvious that Tyreese's desperation to cling to his morals, and his new quiet/distanced demeanor paired with some pretty intense facial expressions a blatant sign that he is eventually going to snap. The scene in the cabin shows us a glimpse of that rage, and I find it hard to believe that Tyreese is an all forgiving saint.
Based on what information? The only thing that corroborates your thinking is the one event with the man in the cabin. Not only doesn't he k… moreill him with a lot of reason to, he stops the others members from going in who would undoubtedly end him. He could have let them go in and finish him, the blood wouldn't have been on his hands, but he doesn't because he feels things don't need to be like they are. He has morals. Tyreese isn't tottering his emotional state like Rick was. He already went through his trial and he didn't succumb to his primal do or die nature. He has morals.
Honestly, I had high hopes for Season 5. It seemed like Gimple had captured the old Darabont-esque Season 1 style of fast-paced on your feet action while balancing emotional moments. However, it quickly fell off into the old Walking Dead style of dead space and characters talking about nothing. Granted, there were some great moments this Season so far as each character developed somewhat, but the great moments are far and few in-between.
About the Beth arc, I don't get why Beth was killed off. Her development was cut short and it makes no sense to feature episodes around her, both about her and rescuing her, only to kill her off. If I was Gimple, I would have killed off Carol. That would have been interesting and it would keep the group on their toes. Carol, being an "original" character and seen as one of the strongest survivors would be gone, throwing Daryl into a funk, and Beth would be forced to show everyone that she's strong enough to survive. It's rather frustrating. We had Mazzara killing off characters left and right in Season 3, and now Gimple who is too reluctant to kill off the "strong" characters and seems intent on making everyone depressed shells of human beings in the end.
Who has Gimple killed off so far that's been a major character? The Governor, Hershel, Bob and Beth. The Governor's death was obvious. The other three are all characters who held some kind of hope or optimism in the past and attempted to lift the group's spirits. If we're following this same trend, then that means the next character to die is Glenn, killing off any hope at all.
While it is the ZA and no one is happy, there has to be some kind of balance which is what these characters were for. They helped keep everyone going with their positivity. With everyone negative and cold, where is the hope? Why do these people keep going? Why would I want to watch a depressing show where everyone constantly mopes? I believe The Walking Dead needed characters like Beth.
Okay, still funding was cut and the show had to be shot in a few locations, causing the drop in quality.
If you want to know why people t… morehink Frank is better is because well, he's a great writer and director. Everything in season one was grand, little to no complaints, once he left the writing dropped in quality. He made the show very promising.
Really disappointing. Why write it so that there's a big focus on getting Beth back and then kill her off when the group reunites with her again? They did it with Andrea too. After S2 she wasn't really part of the group, but that was understandable because of how the storyline was written. And what the hell does she stab her for anyway? She was about to leave and rejoin the group. So WTF is all I got to say.
We will just have to agree to disagree then. I find it quite obvious that Tyreese's desperation to cling to his morals, and his new quiet/di… morestanced demeanor paired with some pretty intense facial expressions a blatant sign that he is eventually going to snap. The scene in the cabin shows us a glimpse of that rage, and I find it hard to believe that Tyreese is an all forgiving saint.
I thought Emily Kinney was fine, personally. Either way, I didn't see Beth as a character who was out of the loop or one who struggled to figure things out for herself.
Her actress wasnt the best to be fair. Its little things you pick up on. She did a pretty good job this year.
I didnt hate Beth like the people who are making celebration threads and vidoes about her death
That comparison makes no sense. Clem and Tyreese are nothing alike. I also never equated Tyreese to a serial killer. We disagree, my opinion is not going to change, and I don't feel a mighty need to change yours. Let's leave it at that.
I thought Emily was phenomenal in her role as Beth..she's definitely new to the acting world, but for a newcomer she did very well. Hell, she was on par with Norman Reedus in "Still", that says something.
Her actress wasnt the best to be fair. Its little things you pick up on. She did a pretty good job this year.
I didnt hate Beth like the people who are making celebration threads and vidoes about her death
Honestly, I had high hopes for Season 5. It seemed like Gimple had captured the old Darabont-esque Season 1 style of fast-paced on your feet… more action while balancing emotional moments. However, it quickly fell off into the old Walking Dead style of dead space and characters talking about nothing. Granted, there were some great moments this Season so far as each character developed somewhat, but the great moments are far and few in-between.
About the Beth arc, I don't get why Beth was killed off. Her development was cut short and it makes no sense to feature episodes around her, both about her and rescuing her, only to kill her off. If I was Gimple, I would have killed off Carol. That would have been interesting and it would keep the group on their toes. Carol, being an "original" character and seen as one of the strongest survivors would be gone, throwing Daryl into a funk, and Beth would be forced to show everyone that she's strong enough t… [view original content]
That comparison makes no sense. Clem and Tyreese are nothing alike. I also never equated Tyreese to a serial killer. We disagree, my opinion is not going to change, and I don't feel a mighty need to change yours. Let's leave it at that.
When Tyreese was shouting "I won't", it was showing his struggle. If he was simply some guy with great morals, he wouldn't have actually needed to shout such a thing out loud as if he was proving something to himself.
Also, remember back in Season Three when he came very close to murdering someone by almost throwing them in a pit full of walkers? I can't remember what caused him to snap exactly, but it's just another example of the conflicting emotions within him. I too think Tyreese will snap at some point. He has that ticking time bomb sort of vibe to him.
Regardless of how you personally want to view Tyreese though, I don't think it takes away from the fact that killing off Beth was detrimental to the creativity of the show/group/characters.
I think you're missing the point of his character. As beth served, and especially in regards to Daryl after the prison's fall, Tyreese serve… mores as a moral grounding. He beats the man, his words "I won't, " are obviously in reference to killing. Which, by the reappearance of the beaten man later in the season, is true because he doesn't kill him. Which begs the question if Tyreese's character is suited to the world now. He let the man live whom came back to help eat Bob and attack the group.
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You carn blame noah!
He jad no choice when he escaped, he had to leave her there, and he didnt knkw daryl and carrol at this point, he didnt rob them needlessly, he need the stuff to survive, thats just the world they live in now, once they all worked out they were on the same side noah has been super loyal...
No hesitation, he just offerdd to go back to the hospital so the deal could be done..
I hated the entire hospital arc. It's the same kind of bullshit that Howe's and Carver was. Everyone hates the leader but no one has the brain cells necessary to kill the horrible leader and make the hospital/howe's a better place. The entire half season should have been about Gareth and the cannibals, now that was an interesting character and a great actor.
Haha its fine. I figured he would die eventually
Based on what information? The only thing that corroborates your thinking is the one event with the man in the cabin. Not only doesn't he kill him with a lot of reason to, he stops the others members from going in who would undoubtedly end him. He could have let them go in and finish him, the blood wouldn't have been on his hands, but he doesn't because he feels things don't need to be like they are. He has morals. Tyreese isn't tottering his emotional state like Rick was. He already went through his trial and he didn't succumb to his primal do or die nature. He has morals.
I think by "I get it now," she means "I want Noah to be free, and the only way for that to happen is if I'm dead."
if you want to go through by "seasons" then yes.... season 1 of the show is better than season 2 of the game. other than that, season two is better. but again overall i count them as one. the show is all 5 seasons and the game is both seasons. and the game is BY FAR BETTER than the show
if robert kirkman thinks he can kill off my favorite character without any closer. he'd better be prepared to lose his leg. cause im gonna RIP IT OFF AND SHOW HIM AND HIS FAMILY HOW HERSHEL AND BETH FELT!!!!!!!!!!
Rest In Peperoni little Beth Greene... Tell Hershel We Said Hi...
nah. a story for negan is what we need.
now lee. thats not a very nice thing to imply... Brenda. TWD S1E2
We will just have to agree to disagree then. I find it quite obvious that Tyreese's desperation to cling to his morals, and his new quiet/distanced demeanor paired with some pretty intense facial expressions a blatant sign that he is eventually going to snap. The scene in the cabin shows us a glimpse of that rage, and I find it hard to believe that Tyreese is an all forgiving saint.
Honestly, I had high hopes for Season 5. It seemed like Gimple had captured the old Darabont-esque Season 1 style of fast-paced on your feet action while balancing emotional moments. However, it quickly fell off into the old Walking Dead style of dead space and characters talking about nothing. Granted, there were some great moments this Season so far as each character developed somewhat, but the great moments are far and few in-between.
About the Beth arc, I don't get why Beth was killed off. Her development was cut short and it makes no sense to feature episodes around her, both about her and rescuing her, only to kill her off. If I was Gimple, I would have killed off Carol. That would have been interesting and it would keep the group on their toes. Carol, being an "original" character and seen as one of the strongest survivors would be gone, throwing Daryl into a funk, and Beth would be forced to show everyone that she's strong enough to survive. It's rather frustrating. We had Mazzara killing off characters left and right in Season 3, and now Gimple who is too reluctant to kill off the "strong" characters and seems intent on making everyone depressed shells of human beings in the end.
Who has Gimple killed off so far that's been a major character? The Governor, Hershel, Bob and Beth. The Governor's death was obvious. The other three are all characters who held some kind of hope or optimism in the past and attempted to lift the group's spirits. If we're following this same trend, then that means the next character to die is Glenn, killing off any hope at all.
While it is the ZA and no one is happy, there has to be some kind of balance which is what these characters were for. They helped keep everyone going with their positivity. With everyone negative and cold, where is the hope? Why do these people keep going? Why would I want to watch a depressing show where everyone constantly mopes? I believe The Walking Dead needed characters like Beth.
Pretty much everything I've seen that Frank was involved in turned out great. The Green Mile, for instance.
Really disappointing. Why write it so that there's a big focus on getting Beth back and then kill her off when the group reunites with her again? They did it with Andrea too. After S2 she wasn't really part of the group, but that was understandable because of how the storyline was written. And what the hell does she stab her for anyway? She was about to leave and rejoin the group. So WTF is all I got to say.
We must be watching two different shows.
I thought Emily Kinney was fine, personally. Either way, I didn't see Beth as a character who was out of the loop or one who struggled to figure things out for herself.
...Or we just happen to have different opinions about a character.
That would be like you saying S1 Clem was a serial killer. The aforementioned occurrence is more likely.
That comparison makes no sense. Clem and Tyreese are nothing alike. I also never equated Tyreese to a serial killer. We disagree, my opinion is not going to change, and I don't feel a mighty need to change yours. Let's leave it at that.
I thought Emily was phenomenal in her role as Beth..she's definitely new to the acting world, but for a newcomer she did very well. Hell, she was on par with Norman Reedus in "Still", that says something.
Agreed.
I figured the exaggerative implications were blatant. I'll try harder next time.
When Tyreese was shouting "I won't", it was showing his struggle. If he was simply some guy with great morals, he wouldn't have actually needed to shout such a thing out loud as if he was proving something to himself.
Also, remember back in Season Three when he came very close to murdering someone by almost throwing them in a pit full of walkers? I can't remember what caused him to snap exactly, but it's just another example of the conflicting emotions within him. I too think Tyreese will snap at some point. He has that ticking time bomb sort of vibe to him.
Regardless of how you personally want to view Tyreese though, I don't think it takes away from the fact that killing off Beth was detrimental to the creativity of the show/group/characters.
It doesnt make sense that maggie would go to washington knowing that beth was alive