Time skip estimate
I've been debating lately about how far of a time skip (if any) to start episode 3. I've thought of 2 but there's kind of a bad side to each.
First one. 4 years. That's a long time, but the baby will be 4 years old and Clem could actually talk to the kid. Obviously, all your choices to end season 2 wouldn't matter. But let's face it. Either a cure would be found or everyone would die of starvation anyways.
Second. 3 weeks. Whatever place you ended up, it will somehow fall apart, Kenny and Jane are for sure dead. Got plenty of examples how all choices fall apart (except if you kill/leave Kenny and Jane) but this thread would be an endless paragraph. (It will show a short cutscene of what happened) [that way telltale doesn't have to deal with any dialogue options so that they won't rip their hair out using your choices from the previous seasons to use on dialogue and get the game made way quicker] No matter what you choose to end season 2, you end up at the same place.
Haven't made a thread in a while and I'm interested in your opinions on my thoughts or even post your own estimate.
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They have to be careful because it has to fit with the comic storyline, but I think a skip of 6 months is likely (if Clem is still PC)
What I would love: time skip of about 7-8 years, that way, AJ is older and Clem becomes Lee, AJ becomes S1 Clem, and we have to protect and teach him similar to how Lee taught Clem
What they are limited to: 2 years, cannot go past the comics unless Kirkman were to give them some sort of special permission, which will not happen
Most likely: a few weeks/months, no reason behind this, I just feel that this is a good estimate
There was a several year time skip in the comics only a few months ago. Carl is now a teenager. I guess telltale will follow this and make like 17 or so.
I meant make Clem 17 years old
No (should be) meaningful / long time jump. The 16 month time skip and the later, smaller time skips proved to me that they can and will take liberties when it comes to "confirming with ignorance." They skipped one of the, if not the, most meaningful, trying, and changing parts of Clementine's life because they felt like it. Because it would make her a more interesting playable character. Because fuck her story. I'll be damned if I'll give them money for doing it again.
Please Please do not age her again.
Worst Mistake ever. Just No...
If they do that they ruin Clementine, i won't give two fucks about her at all.
I agree. (Besides the last part) They're getting way to far ahead for only the second season.
No timeskip we will be going back to the beginning of the apocalypse with a new protagonist hopefully.
Exactly, as the show gives no fucks about canon.
Why exactly does it have to fit with the comics? I don't see why people keep saying that.
It doesn't, but R.K. controls the whole universe. He would probably prefer the game to stick around the comic timeframe. Don't know why, but he has said that.
I'd rather play as a teenage/adult Clementine than an 11 year old Clementine. It opens us up to so many new plot pathways.
That would complicate things. The most R.K. would probably do is have them find the wreckage of a place one group had been through. It is all in the hands of R.K.
Thanks for actually giving me a valid answer unlike some other people on threads.
I think it's because just in-case he ever wants them to cross, he'll have the ability to do so.
Imagine this took place 3-7 months later; time has moved forward a bit, but we still get to play as adults w/o that adult being Clem 9-11 years later.
....this could be misinterpreted as a shameless plug....
It's probably because he writes it and he can do whatever he wants. If in the next year he were to introduce an actual cure that fixes the whole world but the game is still in the apocalypse, then there's a continuity issue. If he's in control of the universe, than he has the final say.
Yay. Fuck her story, we want plot points!
Not a shameless plug. The forum is a place for discussion, and you added a lot to the conversation.
The idea is intrepid, and definitely original. What would your "trials" be?
No timeskip needed.
The Clementine protagonist is a young girl facing the Zombie Apocalypse if she grows up she will just be another survivor. I will not care because her character will be ruined for me. They Ruined Lee , so they'll probably ruin Clementine, and i'm still fucking pissed about Lee. Its been 2 years!
Setting back women in video games because she is the only protagonist girl imo that isn't a sex object.
I would still care for her character if she were an adult, but not hardly as much if they just skip to her being an adult. It's much harder for us as bystanders to link the two, young and old, if there is no linkage to fall back on between the two. If they follow her story until she is an adult then sure, I would still care for her. If they poof her into and adult then I would still care for her more than the other characters they would first introduce me to, but seeing as how they made her character in S2 I could see that fizzling out extremely quickly. And if it didn't fizzle out it would still be a tenuous flash to her former self years back. I will care both ways, but one will be meaningful, and one will be a halfhearted attempt to hold onto what I've come to cherish.
How did they ruin Lee for you? He died for a goal, an important goal. He was a blank slate from the beginning, unlike the reset button crap-fest that was Clementine and the 16 month time skip. Lee was the perfect PC for me from beginning to end. I'm still pissed after two years too! That's how awesomely "not ruined" he was, in my eyes.
Huh? Not sure I interpreted that as intended. Clementine "set back" women in video games because she was the first woman protagonist who wasn't a sex object? Are you arguing the only good female protagonist is one who plays the part of a sex object?
Dude, come on. We already know her story as a child. Aging her will give us more story to be discussed when Clementine decides to reveal her past.
I think he's talking about other people not liking Clementine and setting her back because she isn't a sex object.
But need I remind you, I would also like a teenaged Clementine. Not just an adult one.
I hadn't realized a story stops when you reach a certain age and doesn't start until your reach a certain age. I apologize for my ignorance.
If that's the case then I can just plainly say no, that isn't a major reason people don't like her.
How old would your ideal Teen Clem be exactly?
What do you mean by "trials"? Like struggles? I have some ideas, but first what do you have in mind.
I'm not being an ass, so there's no excuse for you to be one either.
You know that's not what I'm trying to say. As a child, we know what's going to happen. We've seen it all, what else is going to affect her? So, you let her age, and she'll most likely come with a new personality and more past points.
I don't really know. That's kind of why I want to play as her, obviously because I don't know.
Interestingly enough I recall you saying in a past post "I'm a sarcastic person." I wasn't being an ass, I was being fakishly self-deprecating.
You don't know what's going to happen, because it hasn't happened yet.
No you haven't. If you've seen it all then there wouldn't be a point to come back at all. Whether she was older or not, because it's all happened.
Anything and everything that happens to her.
Yuck. Another personality reset? One season of such a mistake was enough. I have no interest in building more unbased assumptions as to why she is as she is. She's happy, she's sad, she's reflective, she's internalized, she's monotone, she's a serial killer. Why is she any of these? Fuck if anyone knows, make up a story so that it makes sense.
Okay.
Just getting a more specified visualization of your idea. The trials would tell me things like: is it safe? For the slaves, for the militia? How often do the peons need to leave the safety of the chaste based society to keep the society functioning? How is she treated? Would the treatment make her want to leave? Do the zombies get in ever? How are they dealt with?
Because the game is canon to the comics. The only way the game can skip 20 years in the future is if the comics have a time skip of 20 years
Not necessarily, it doesn't work like that. The comics are four years into the apocalypse, and the game is only two. The game/comics don't have to be at the exact same time.
Yeah, I said I was a sarcastic person. I don't need to be sarcastic 24/7, and I wasn't being sarcastic to you at all.
By all, I mean her character. You realize that, right? We know how she reacts, what she says without our choice, etc. Those things can differ when you age up.
Yeah, no shit?
"Okay."
I'm not sarcastic 24/7 either, but it's okay for you to be sarcastic and no I? Okay?...
And you know, for the most part, what any character with a set personality will say and do as soon as they are a set character with a set personality. Now, half the characters may have never gotten that due respect this season, what with all the flip flopping in traits and such, but that doesn't mean it isn't a staple of writing with realistic characters and writing with continuity. The obvious aside, it's also a problem with continuity if you change her personality to the point she would say and do things that don't match with her character, even if years in the future. What's the point of even having the same character at that point? You might as well bring in a fresh face. At least then it doesn't negate your character from previous tales (S1 and 2).
Then why the fuck did you ask?
Okay.
What I mean "by time" is that the game can't go over four years in the apocalypse timeline. They can have a timeskip of a year or 2 in the game, but thats the maximum limit because the comics don't go over that time. If Telltale plans to having s3 take over a period of months or hell even a year, then it would be safe for them to not have a timeskip at all.
Where the comics are at right now isn't how far Telltale can go, it all depends on if Kirkman will agree with a longer timeline or not.
I didn't say you can't be sarcastic. But you surely can't be an ass for no reason.
I'd rather Clementine with a different personality, than an entirely new character. Clementine could still keep a bit of her past self, and I'd still be fine with it.
Because that wasn't even what I meant, but okay.
It's a matter of opinion, and that's just mine.
9 year time skip confirmed.