Why people hate Kenny so much

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  • We don't know if Kenny is the one who killed Arvo's sister. You think he was able to kill most of that group all by himself? It could have been Mike, Bonnie, or someone else, even if he did don't you know that is was necessary? It was a shoot-out, it was self defense.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    Kenny is a violent, stubborn lunatic, who thinks he is right about everything and never listens to reason. He is the reason why Mike/Bonni

  • Kenny is possibly the most controversial character in video game history, I like him and got the 'Leave Wellington' ending, but he can be seen as a flawed individual despite him wanting to do much for the group and many players found him to be reckless, immoral at times, selfish and greedy but many others find him being a good hearted person with many tragic events making him a tragic hero that would be selfless to ones he cares about.
    The only major controversial video game characters I could think of is Frank Woods,John Marston, Nick from the walking dead, The Governor and
    Rebecca from season 2.

  • There's a reason why the Kenny/Jane choice is nearly 50/50...

  • He did many things wrong but he can be seen as a tragic hero trying to do good.

    Deltino posted: »

    "HE DIN DO NUFIN, HE A GOOD MAN, JANE/LILLY/ARVO IS SATAN"

  • He was not a good friend to my Lee or my Clementine.

  • No, it isnt

    Sadly, this is 100% true.

  • Grandfather? How old do you think he is?

    Mary5 posted: »

    I like him (I stayed with him instead of going to Wellington) but maybe some people hate him because in season 1 he could be a total jerk if

  • dojo32161dojo32161 Moderator
    edited December 2014

    Kenny is the only one who seems the most plausible, especially since Vitali singles him out and says that he killed Natasha. Besides, it would be weird for Arvo to go with Mike or Bonnie, especially considering he shot Clementine in retaliation for his sister. Based on the episode 4 ending, Kenny shouldn't be able to do this, however quite a lot of things changed, including people's positions.

    Luke could have done it, but his gun would have probably left more bullet holes.

    thatguy97 posted: »

    We don't know if Kenny is the one who killed Arvo's sister. You think he was able to kill most of that group all by himself? It could have b

  • He can be, but it all depends on perspective.

    He did many things wrong but he can be seen as a tragic hero trying to do good.

  • It isn't, but a lot of people are like that.

    KCohere posted: »

    No, it isnt

  • edited December 2014

    People tend to hate kid characters a lot it seems. I don't understand why. I like a lot of the kids/teens in this game. I could never bring myself to deny Duck food or the high-five when I played S1, heh.

    Deltino posted: »

    I don't know why people hate Duck so much either, but hey, when have people ever made sense?

  • I really don't see people with a common sense saying that.

    Also i wonder if the people who present Kenny as satan himself for that act would also blame Lee for doing the same thing Kenny kill

  • Well so far Clementine is fine with Jane in her ending and Kenny never knew AJ's fate, he just came to a conclusion that if he didn't find AJ out in the cold near the playground that Jane automatically killed him, he got angry and pointed at Jane as a murderer without any evidence whatsoever, Kenny could've avoided the whole fight or could've given Jane the chance to speak, you know, show Jane how he isn't always dangerous.

    Kenny isn't evil for attacking Jane, although he tried to kill Jane because he thought she killed AJ and he made it seem like he saw AJ dead himself, Kenny was still provoked by Jane, she could've stopped the fight by trying to tell Kenny that AJ was alive or by stopping when or running away if Clementine asks her too, although same could be said for Kenny. I wouldn't look at Lee as either evil or pure, everyone in the apocalypse does something that either ticks people off or lightens up the mood, there are never really right things to do anymore and people only do what they think is right. I would barely call Clementine and Kenny companions, the only closest moment I recall them sharing is when Kenny gets mad at Clementine for her worry over Duck. Jane did have the right, Clementine and Kenny both made it that far because of Jane, if it wasn't for her, they would all be dead in the Walker horde, Clementine would've drowned in ice cold water, Kenny would've been shot by Vitali. If Jane doesn't have the right to defend herself, what gives Kenny the right for a pre-emptive attack? The fight would've been avoided if either one of them backed down, but the chances are that if one of them backed down, the other would've kept the battle going, so they are really both at fault. What gives Kenny the right to killed Larry? The only person Lilly cared about? I guess Kenny's reasons are invalid for that action too since Lilly and Larry were life long companions.

    Going off at Jane was more than an impulsive act IMO, as indicated by the line "I aint gonna let you.." line (while stabbing Jane). Kenny

  • That's opinions for you.

    ash2ashes posted: »

    Because they simply can; the same goes for hating other characters. I personally don't like him because he's pig-headed and stubborn and

  • I don't get why people dislike a character because of their fans, it's better to have a laugh over things than stress over them. People who hate Kenny because of his fans have the right to, but it's practically saying "I hate Kenny because he has super fans that worship him, that's right, I hate Kenny because he has other fans I don't have to pay attention too".

    Mich19 posted: »

    I like Kenny... maybe they hate Kenny just because of his other half ridiculous fans?? who make him more mainstream or like "OHH KENNY I WORSHIP YOU URE JESUS THE PROPHET AND GOD" like that?? uhh i don't know sorry :<

  • edited December 2014

    I don't hate Kenny, I like him, I understand why he did some of the bad things he's done but that doesn't mean those acts weren't bad or reflect a negative perspective on him.

    Some of things are maybe these:

    He killed Larry, without actual justification, in front of Lilly and Clementine, he also could've hit Lee or Lilly. He did this because he though Larry was going to turn, that's the thing with survivors though, once they think someone is going to turn, they kill him/her just because they have no hope, not all survivors do that but allot go to the assumption that someone's dead, he was also undergoing stress that Katjaa and Duck were in danger, let's not forget Larry threatened to kill Duck the same way Kenny killed Larry. But then again, what would you have done if Kenny killed your father, just because he was being cautious of a bunch of strangers that brought in a kid that seemed to have been bit, without being shown that he wasn't bit?

    Kenny's character gets angry allot of the time, he gets mad about allot of small things, he blamed Clementine for the death of Sarita, in which Sarita's death was completely a tragedy and just because Kenny apologized doesn't mean what he did was right. Remember that Kenny practically told Clementine that sorry means shit, sure when he's not angry he can be a nice person but the thing is that Kenny is angry most of the time, I'm not even sure how many times he's shouted at someone for no reason. But everyone gets angry, the apocalypse adds allot of stress and that doesn't make them a psychopath, lots of people get to a stage where there's little to no reason to be happy, so they can only act with anger or sadness.

    Kenny refuses to stop the train in hopes that his son wouldn't turn. This was pretty obvious, he easily murdered Larry, he easily put peoples' lives at risk by taking another family's food with little to no remorse, he easily lets a suffering girl continue her suffering just to get supplies that don't end up being used, he easily calls Lilly a murderer as if he wasn't one himself and tries to leave her on the road for killing a member of the group(I don't recall Kenny getting punished for killing Larry). Sure Duck was his family and blood is what only matters until the blood runs dry, sure Larry could've died if you didn't try to save him, sure the group needed the food, sure the girl was already dead and they 'needed' supplies, sure Lilly was a murderer for killing Carley or Doug but his motives are still not easily justified, he's got reasons sure but allot of them are cliché and selfish, some of them aren't even justifiable at all.

    Kenny isn't evil or good, he's a survivor.

  • As someone who has spent the last two days expressing their opinion, learning from others and then reforming my opinion, I just want to note that arguments over Kenny never have an end to them

    Here's the reason why...
    Kenny is a very interesting character because he was probably the most fleshed out character besides the protagonists (Lee and Clementine). For this reason, the decisions that the player makes in response to Kenny actually have significant impact on how he is perceived.
    If you have his back, then he is loyal till the end. If you choose against him, then he is like demon spawn.

    This all has to do with how forgiving players are towards Kenny in the very first scene that we meet him when he panics and runs off with Duck, and whether or not we choose to save Duck or Shawn.
    If we choose to save Shawn, then understandably but quite hypocritically Kenny is rather pissed. But his loyalty can be won back if we "choose" to forgive Kenny for running off.

    I think that it is safe to say that some players don't like Duck and that character can influence how people feel about Kenny. Although I just saw Duck as a generic hyper kid, I've seen a lot of YouTubers playing who see Duck as the bane of their life when they play the game.

    It should be noted that the scene concerning Larry's death tears a lot of players apart. This is based purely on a Lilly VS Kenny that the early Episodes had running for a while. So depending on which character you like (Or how much you hate Larry), you try to side with them and that'll leave the other character extremely mad. In Kenny's case, he will become extremely bitter towards Lee and this may leave players furious with Kenny's behaviour, as he just murdered a man as his daughter tried to revive him. Some players may agree with Kenny and see Larry as a threat, especially by that stage most players have connected significantly with Clementine and we can't have Clem in danger, right?
    Although I usually side with Kenny in this scene, it is extremely hard to have to pull Lilly off her dad like that and I can see why some players would want to avoid this and see Kenny as pure evil in his actions.

    In Season 2, Kenny's appearance is solely based on your interactions with him in season 1. If Lee conflicted with him in season 1, then players are still going to be bitter towards him. Although there isn't much choice to be bitter towards him that much in season 2 based on the protagonist playing Clementine who did not have beef with Kenny at all. So up until the finale, people who hate Kenny are rather forced to interact nicely with him, even when he treats Clementine like absolute shit after Sarita's death.
    However to Kenny fans who had his loyalty in season 1, then a nostalgic feeling ignites within the player because being close to Kenny reminds us of Lee. Sarita's death, if you are loyal to Kenny, feels extremely hurtful to a loyal player and may cause some players to turn down the anti-Kenny road.

    I do like Kenny because my Lee was good friends with him so I did get nostalgic in season 2. Kenny is a very over bearing individual because he is extremely hot headed and this understandingly turns a lot of people away from Kenny.

    Like I said though, because the interactive options with Kenny in season 1 varied greatly compared to any other character, it's purely based on how you initially interact with Kenny.
    That's why I believe Kenny is a character you can't really fight over because everyone's experience with him is different because he does have so many dynamics and attitudes depending on your interaction.

    This unfortunately wasn't shown in Season 2.

  • Wow, our comments support each other nicely hahaha

    prink34320 posted: »

    I don't hate Kenny, I like him, I understand why he did some of the bad things he's done but that doesn't mean those acts weren't bad or ref

  • What are your think they do something with this ending like clementine wake up in the car with jane/kenny or they just kill determinant character and make game shit.

  • Oh, I realise most of you are joking.

    That doesn't mean the jokes are funny and not immature.

    Also I'm getting pretty tired of the 'flawed man' thing that the KDB like to throw around. If they do think he is flawed, why do they justify every single one of his actions? That's not being flawed, that's being perfect.

    They are annoyed by the Kenny fans worshipping his mustache, they're too ignorant to see that most of us are just joking around. Realizing h

  • If they do think he is flawed, why do they justify every single one of his actions? That's not being flawed, that's being perfect.

    He has his flaws like yelling and getting mad but it's all backed up with his extrasensory perception ability to be right about everything and everyone

    Flog61 posted: »

    Oh, I realise most of you are joking. That doesn't mean the jokes are funny and not immature. Also I'm getting pretty tired of the 'fl

  • Kenny is love, Kenny is life. He is awesome.

  • edited December 2014

    Players have a sense of invincibility.

    So when Kenny proposes something reasonable, given the situation they're in, but unreasonable if you know you're not going to die (and if you do you can just reload) it's going to be seen in the worst light possible.

    Kenny why are you even suggesting that? We're still in Episode 2, no matter what we do we're not going to die. I'm the player, they're not going to kill me off when there's three more episodes left. And even if we die I'll just reload the game. Jeez Kenny stop thinking we're in a life or death situation, it' not even a QTE just a choice so we're safe.

    Or

    You want to let the girl get eaten by walkers Kenny? Kenny how many times should I explain this to you, we're not going to die. It's just Episode 3. So chill man, we're safe. And if you do die it'll be all dramatic and shocking because the writers are like that. So trust me, we won't die and if you do it'll be worth it

  • I think it was a lot of bandwagonning. You know, people thinking its funny.

    BoatsNHoes posted: »

    You like Duck? Didn't expect that.. Never understood why the majority would hate such an innocent soul.

  • I'd guess 46.

    KCohere posted: »

    Grandfather? How old do you think he is?

  • Also Luke doesn't kill.

    dojo32161 posted: »

    Kenny is the only one who seems the most plausible, especially since Vitali singles him out and says that he killed Natasha. Besides, it wou

  • Kenny is alright. Six feet under. He was causing problems but I didn't hate him. His fans made me hate him. Their threads about how good pal Ken was, great, awesome buddy, moustache, he's can't be dead, justifying his crazy actions, bashing oponents, all this ignorant bullshit.

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    I've wanted to use this for so long...

    Kenny is alright. Six feet under. He was causing problems but I didn't hate him. His fans made me hate him. Their threads about how good pal

  • edited December 2014

    but as i say, i think the majority in this fanbase section are more kenny loyalists.... kenny haters are like 10% (that doesnt include me)

  • He reminded me of my nephew with his batman love.

    BoatsNHoes posted: »

    You like Duck? Didn't expect that.. Never understood why the majority would hate such an innocent soul.

  • But Kenny isn't right about everything.

    He refused to help Clementine in my game in season 1. He thought Clem was responsible for sarita's death in season 2. He though Jane only cared about herself when she risked her life to save Clementine from the lake. He thought AJ was dead (surely that's a pretty big one, if he's supposed to be some psychic genius knower-of-all?). He thought Lee would be able to pick locks due to his race, when he couldn't.

    I can go on, if you want.

    If they do think he is flawed, why do they justify every single one of his actions? That's not being flawed, that's being perfect. H

  • According to Kenny's wiki page it says he is in his Late 30's to Mid 40's so I'd say 39-46.

    I'd guess 46.

  • If they kill Kenny I dont play season 3. cause all character who I like will be death. They killed Luke, they killed Lee,Nick, and possible Kenny in season 3. Why Telltale just killing they best characters? now we can only wait for Clem death cause they do it too i think....

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    Kenny is alright. Six feet under. He was causing problems but I didn't hate him. His fans made me hate him. Their threads about how good pal

  • edited December 2014
    Mich19 posted: »

    but as i say, i think the majority in this fanbase section are more kenny loyalists.... kenny haters are like 10% (that doesnt include me)

  • LOL! This gif is the best thing ever.

  • I don`t see why you should quit just because your favorite character dies. Ben was my all time favorite and he died, but I kept playing. Nick was my second favorite, he died and I kept playing. Why do I do this? Because the story is too interesting to stop.

    I'm nearly certain that if Arvo, my third favorite character, ever comes back, he won't survive, but I don't mind, so long as the story is good, I'll keep playing. Besides, maybe you'll find someone else to like in the upcoming season.

    Though, in the end, it's your decision.

    PatrykoPL3 posted: »

    If they kill Kenny I dont play season 3. cause all character who I like will be death. They killed Luke, they killed Lee,Nick, and possible

  • I think Luke could kill in that kind of situation, in a fight for his life, but when someone is helpless and can't do anything to defend themselves (I.E. Carver), then I don't think he can bring himself to do it.

    Also Luke doesn't kill.

  • Personally i don't want my favorite character to come back, i am perfectly happy with the "unknown" status.

    dojo32161 posted: »

    I don`t see why you should quit just because your favorite character dies. Ben was my all time favorite and he died, but I kept playing. Nic

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