We all love Luke

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  • I don't have one, I could probably create one.

    Kennyftw posted: »

    Do you have a youtube channel?

  • CrazyGeorgeCrazyGeorge Banned
    edited December 2014

    They cant dispute what i said, they know i'm right. PS i added some new thoughts to my previous post.

    Watch out, Luke's marauders are out there. Be on the look out.

  • I quite liked Nick.

    True that. except Nick. he's gorgeous.

  • But trust me, Lilac knows what she's talking about, and Sialark does too!

    Hellz yeahh!

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    Lilacsbloom posted: »

    Damn right, I write fanfics with the guy in it, I have to know these things. It's called building mental pictures and analyzing the hell out

  • edited December 2014

    Personally IMO , I could take him or leave him

    Well that's your opinion.

    Where was Luke during the shootout at the lodge? i think he ran away.

    No, I think that he was there, but he was just trying to figure out what exactly to do. He clearly didn't want to kill Carver, so shooting was not on his agenda (hence his off-screen argument with Kenny). I think he was trying to think of a peaceful solution from a distance, but he ran out of time. And when he saw Carver leaving with everyone, that's when he followed from a distance. Though if anyone has other ideas of what went down, I'm open to hearing them.

    Maybe he got scared and sent Nick out to find help, even knowing he was wounded.
    Why would Nick go out for help when he is suffering from a bullet wound.

    Nah, I think most like to imagine that Nick volunteered to go out and look for help, as this would've made him at least sort of die as a hero, trying to help his friends. Luke knew that Nick was kinda unstable and didn't want him to volunteer for jobs like go over the bridge remember? I don't think Luke forced Nick out there if Nick didn't want to go out there.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    Personally IMO , I could take him or leave him, he dead now. One thing that really annoyed me about him is how he dropped Clementine in ep

  • Well that's your opinion.

    That is why i said IMO :>

    No, I think that he was there, but he was just trying to figure out what exactly to do. He clearly didn't want to kill Carver, so shooting was not on his agenda (hence his off-screen argument with Kenny). I think he was trying to think of a peaceful solution from a distance, but he ran out of time. And when he saw Carver leaving with everyone, that's when he followed from a distance. Though if anyone has other ideas of what went down, I'm open to hearing them.

    Why are you so against the idea, that he is fallible ? People make mistakes all the time, just from his conversation about guilt you can tell he did something wrong. Why would he feel that way if he felt he did everything he could? Its a possibility he ran away, then got the courage to break into the camp.

    , I think most like to imagine that Nick volunteered to go out and look for help

    Would you let your best friend that was shot in the shoulder go out looking for help? I think his fear of Zombies got the best of him, maybe Nick said i want to be the hero, and Luke just went along with it.

    sialark posted: »

    Personally IMO , I could take him or leave him Well that's your opinion. Where was Luke during the shootout at the lodge? i th

  • Why are you so against the idea, that he is fallible ?

    Oh my goodness no. You misunderstand me. Of course he's not infallible. Luke makes mistakes, just like you say, all the time, and that's a reason I love his character. He had sex with Jane, he got caught at Howe's, he certainly wasn't always perfect to Nick either, who could've used some more emotional support. Perfect characters are quite boring, and I thought his mistakes made him more human, like others have said. Of course he was guilty, just as you say. I've said this before, and so've others, but I'll say it again: Luke wanted to be a good guy superhero and he wanted to save everyone but in the end he just couldn't; he had to realize he was human and made mistakes. In the beginning, he was so idealistic thinking that everyone in his group could survive, and when he was proven wrong, we see a slightly more survivalist side to him, and yes, that side of him was riddled with guilt for all the mistakes he's made.

    Its a possibility he ran away, then got the courage to break into the camp.

    You know what? That is a possibility. But even so, I'd applaud him for his courage to come back, after acting like a chickenshit. Haha I can just imagine you rolling your eyes at that though lol. Sorry. XD

    maybe Nick said i want to be the hero, and Luke just went along with it.

    Yeah I think it went something like this. If Nick just ran out on his own, I don't think Luke would've felt too good about leaving Sarah by herself. He probably would've trusted Nick'd take care of himself more in that instance than Sarah could take care of herself. But Luke's never been shown to be really scared of walkers like you suggest so...don't know about that.

    ...Actually I do tend to like characters for their flaws, as that makes them more relatable. Strange how that goes, huh? I don't mind the more flawed characters than Luke either; I can see where they're coming from and I can sympathize with them. There's no character I really hate, I have to say.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    Well that's your opinion. That is why i said IMO :> No, I think that he was there, but he was just trying to figure out wha

  • CrazyGeorgeCrazyGeorge Banned
    edited December 2014

    Yeah I think it went something like this. If Nick just ran out on his own, I don't think Luke would've felt too good about leaving Sarah by herself

    I personally believe that Luke is afraid of being bit, and because of that he had to get Nick out of there. Maybe he freaked out, and threw him out, under guise to protect Sarah, and himself. We really don't know what happened or how he ended up out there. That is why he had such a minimal reaction when he found out about Nick. My own personal theory ^_^

    .Actually I do tend to like characters for their flaws, as that makes them more relatable.

    Yes, me too.

    There's no character I really hate, I have to say.

    Me either, I like the most obscure characters in this game, how many people like Troy.

    sialark posted: »

    Why are you so against the idea, that he is fallible ? Oh my goodness no. You misunderstand me. Of course he's not infallible. Luke

  • Not many people like Troy, he was a bully.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    Yeah I think it went something like this. If Nick just ran out on his own, I don't think Luke would've felt too good about leaving Sarah by

  • Well... technically, him and Jane.

    And really, you don't know what the rest of them were up to off screen, y'know?

    It's weird that he's the only character in the Video Game that's getting laid.

  • "So a dog runs up, bites you and then just disappears? Just some magical asshole dog in the forest?"

    Rousey4000 posted: »

    What is everyones favourite Luke quotes?

  • edited December 2014

    Why would Nick go out for help when he is suffering from a bullet wound.

    I assumed it was suicide. Nick's explicitly stated as having wanted to die before, and when you pair that with his fear of "screwing up" and hurting the people he cares about, he might have worried the bullet in his shoulder would make him bleed out and he'd die in the trailer, then turn and attack Sarah and Luke. He left with the intent of dying at a safe distance.

    Luke's kind of noticeably oblivious and a little patronizing towards Nick's struggles throughout the game. While I have a hard time he'd straight-up throw his friend to the lurkers, it wouldn't surprise me if it just completely flew over his head that Nick didn't plan on coming back after he left.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    Personally IMO , I could take him or leave him, he dead now. One thing that really annoyed me about him is how he dropped Clementine in ep

  • edited December 2014

    I didn't trust him at first. Thought he had some dark secret which would've doomed us all. Like the theory with him being Carver's son.

  • Nick did make a lot of mistakes.

    skoothz posted: »

    Why would Nick go out for help when he is suffering from a bullet wound. I assumed it was suicide. Nick's explicitly stated as havin

  • Luke ain't like that.

    fallandir posted: »

    I didn't trust him at first. Thought he had some dark secret which would've doomed us all. Like the theory with him being Carver's son.

  • I know this now, wasn't sure back when I met him.

    Rousey4000 posted: »

    Luke ain't like that.

  • I mean, assuming my theory is correct, him making mistakes doesn't mean it's okay he actively made the decision to die...

    Rousey4000 posted: »

    Nick did make a lot of mistakes.

  • Even better would be an ending with Luke, Kenny, Clem AJ. But seriously I miss Luke so much.

    lilbit903 posted: »

    To this day, I still wish we could have had an ending with luke

  • CrazyGeorgeCrazyGeorge Banned
    edited December 2014

    While I have a hard time he'd straight-up throw his friend to the lurkers,

    We have no idea what happened, and that i find the most frustrating about S2. He could have wanted to save his friends and Luke was more concerned in keeping his own self safe, there was a part where they decided who would run for help, Luke kind of just let him go, because he didn't want to go back out there, and he didn't want to stay in there with him.

    Just on his own actions, when he found out Clementine was attacked by a dog, he dropped her.

    skoothz posted: »

    Why would Nick go out for help when he is suffering from a bullet wound. I assumed it was suicide. Nick's explicitly stated as havin

  • Troy made me laugh a couple times throughout the episode.

    Rousey4000 posted: »

    Not many people like Troy, he was a bully.

  • Luke was my third favorite character in season 2. And after episode 3, I really thought that Luke was going to be the protagonist of season 3. Now I'm disapointed.

  • He's great. The coolest.

    Seriously, I love the guy :p he's awesome.

  • He was overall nice guy in the apocalipse, everybody was supposed to like him. Would be much more interesting if he was two-faced or something.

  • What made you laugh about him? He always seemed very serious.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    Troy made me laugh a couple times throughout the episode.

  • Yep, I agree. And as far as missing luke, you could replay or watch someone's playthrough of all the episodes, even though now it's kinda sad looking back at the previous episodes knowing that everyone from the cabin group is dead :(...except for little AJ.

    Rousey4000 posted: »

    Even better would be an ending with Luke, Kenny, Clem AJ. But seriously I miss Luke so much.

  • Me too ;_; I was hoping for the same.

    JMOREL posted: »

    Luke was my third favorite character in season 2. And after episode 3, I really thought that Luke was going to be the protagonist of season 3. Now I'm disapointed.

  • If there's any thread I'm going to mark my return to this forum to, it would obviously have to be this one.

    I'm still a little (read: very) bitter that they just killed him off for shock value when there was so much potential left for a third season with him. He could have been fleshed out even more, not to mention we could have had a little payoff for all the times we sided with him in an argument or built up some sort of trust/friendship with him.

  • I play it regularly, its good looking back and doing all the episodes with Luke particular highlights are the meal at the cabin, crossing the bridge and Clem and Lukes reunion at Howe's.

    lilbit903 posted: »

    Yep, I agree. And as far as missing luke, you could replay or watch someone's playthrough of all the episodes, even though now it's kinda sa

  • I don't have any strong feelings towards him either way. His banter with Clementine was excellent though.

  • edited December 2014

    Me too. There's a lot of factors behind it other than Luke being my favorite character and wanting to see him develop more in another season [and there is so much they could've done with Luke, so so much] I dislike his death because the set up for it is so poor that charcters put aside common sense and personal safety; all the Luke/Kenny debating throughout the season was reduced to nothing but a waste of hot air; meeting the cabin group became meaningless because Jane never was with them or knew them so Clem's the only one who remembers that encounter, so what did we gain from meeting them? Why not just of started the season with Clem finding Kenny and write the cabin group out completely since it doesn't make much difference in the end.

    We got A.J as a result sure, but he'll probably die because Telltale discussed the idea of Clem abandoning the baby in the finale and I think they openly admitted in one of the playing dead episodes everybody around Clementine is there just to die [don't quote me exactly on that, but I remember it was something along those lines and hearing it ticked me off because that's no way to look at your story, because how can you develop a character and have her work off others or care about the supporting cast if they're constantly getting killed off, made determinant or disappearing by the finale to the extent that in itself becomes predictable as Kenny dying in the early South Park seasons?]

    That too and Luke's presence within Season 2 also became meaningless and had no real character arc that concluded itself. He was played up to be important at least in the beginning and then in an unnecessary rewrite [if that original decision found on the disc on who to save in the storm 'Kenny or Luke' was anything to go by] was replaced by another character who hasn't been there since episode 1, only makes her debut halfway into the season; isn't aware of Clem's past and who in the canon timeline knows Clem for a week, 3 days of which she didn't utter but a few words to Clementine, so that's 4 days vs the guy we met at the very first episode of Season 2, knows the scoop on Season 1 and has been friends with Clem for nearly two weeks, and has the disagreements with Kenny going since episode 2.

    And then, there are these that can relate to not just Luke's but other character deaths in Season 2 that weren't that great:

    Advice: Good and Bad Reasons to Kill a Character

    The Worst & Most Frustrating Ways To Kill Off Main Characters

    How to Successfully Kill a Character: The Checklist

    The times I've heard 'It's The Walking Dead, death happens, it's realism' on the net as if that's the only reply to give to people being upset over a character's death. Realism, it doesn't excuse bad writing or give you a free get out of jail card. The deaths in Season 1 don't rub me the bad way like that at all, not even the shockers, so it's not me being a sissy here or it being completely about persona taste; I actually think the shocker death at the end of the first episode of the Game of Thrones game was dealt with far much better, because at least that character's death will have an impact on how he's remembered from what he did and actions taken in choosing a Sentinel leaving a lasting effect as well.

    So when I say I'm not looking forward to Season 3, can you really blame me? :( you certainly won't see me rushing in to buy that season pass next time, or on any game that does the episodic business, not until I've seen the whole package and know what I'm getting into...and it hurts me to say that, that and having to give up being a player experiencing it first hand and instead being a watcher. It's why I haven't gotten Tales from the Borderlands yet, despite that first episode being so damn awesome. If only the later half of Season 2 could've been that good.

    So be bitter my friend @ABigBadWolf would approve of it, as do I.

    quinnics posted: »

    If there's any thread I'm going to mark my return to this forum to, it would obviously have to be this one. I'm still a little (read: ver

  • So be bitter my friend @ABigBadWolf would approve of it, as do I.

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    Lilacsbloom posted: »

    Me too. There's a lot of factors behind it other than Luke being my favorite character and wanting to see him develop more in another season

  • Remember at the beginning of the episode when Sarah was taking a pee break, Troy asks Clementine/Sarah if "everything came out ok girls." I don't know why, but i found that extremely funny/inappropriate i fell out of my seat laughing. It startled my Boarder Collie, and he started getting excited. It was a experience.

    Rousey4000 posted: »

    What made you laugh about him? He always seemed very serious.

  • I remember that part, I thought it was very weird of Troy to say that.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    Remember at the beginning of the episode when Sarah was taking a pee break, Troy asks Clementine/Sarah if "everything came out ok girls." I

  • Luke didn't ignite any kind of emotion out of me. Didn't hate the guy, but I don't really like him either.

  • Which film is this from?

    ABigBadWolf posted: »

    So be bitter my friend @ABigBadWolf would approve of it, as do I.

  • I have a feeling Kenny and Sarita probably got jiggy with it.

    skoothz posted: »

    Well... technically, him and Jane. And really, you don't know what the rest of them were up to off screen, y'know?

  • Christa and Omid did it.

    I have a feeling Kenny and Sarita probably got jiggy with it.

  • I believe it's from the American version of The Office. I know that actor stars in it and there's lots of gifs on it so XD

    Rousey4000 posted: »

    Which film is this from?

  • I like Steve Carell as an actor.

    Lilacsbloom posted: »

    I believe it's from the American version of The Office. I know that actor stars in it and there's lots of gifs on it so XD

  • I liked him, imperfections and all. I liked how he tried to include Clem as part of the group in the earlier episodes when most of the others hadn't quite regarded her as 'one of them' yet and the lengths he could go to try and save his 'family'. I can't imagine it's easy, taking on the role of leader, having that stress of responsibility bearing down, and trying to juggle that with being a friend -- and I think, looking back, he knows he could have been a better one. Circumstances didn't always allow for it, though. Just reminds me of what Pete said, a bit: 'sometimes you have to play a role even if others hate you for it".

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