How some of the tough decisions can affect Season 3
I was just thinking of how choices from both Seasons and the 400 Days DLC can have an effect on The Walking Dead Game Season Three and this is what I came up with(BTW this includes just mentioning certain characters in Season 3, it may not be much but at least it makes it matter a little bit).
Season 1:
Saved Duck or Shawn? - Kenny, if alive in Season 3, may still talk about his family and may mention Lee's decision on the first day they met, this could have an effect on Clementine and Kenny's relationship.
Side with Larry or Kenny? - I think Kenny if he is alive might mention The Everett Family Drugstore to Clementine while remember Lee, if Lilly appears in Season 3 she could talk to Clementine about Lee's actions at his family's drugstore and how he either sided with Larry or Lilly, this decision could effect Clementine's relationship with Kenny or Lilly if they're alive in Season 3.
Save Doug or Carley? - Whoever you saved is mentioned by Clementine in Season 3 or if Clementine finds herself walking down the same round Russell did in 400 Days then she should be able to see Doug's or Carley's corpse on the side of the road. If Russell appears in Season 3, he might tell Clementine whether he saw the corpse of a man or a woman which could cause Clementine to remember Doug or Carley?
Did you help Kenny kill Larry? - If Kenny or Lilly make it to Season 3 I would think that this decision would be mentioned by one or both of them, this decision could cause Lilly to think of Lee as either a good person or a bad person and could effect Clementine's relationship with either or both Kenny and Lilly.
Did you kill Danny and or Andy? - If Lee spared one or both of the St. John brothers, maybe they could've survived and return in Season 3, I know it seems unlikely but it's still a possibility, this would be a bad thing on Clementine's part though, I'd see the brothers taking blame on Clementine for what Lee did to their family, of course that would only happen if at least one of them were spared. If Lilly or Kenny appear in Season 3 there's a possibility they could mention this decision to kind of show how they remember Lee, whether he spared someone's life or took it.
Did you take from the car? - Kenny or Lilly could talk about this decision as they had different perspectives on the matter, this might just be mentioned though and may not effect Clementine's relationship as she sided against taking from the car.(P.S. I wonder what ever happened to that jacket...)
Did you leave Lilly? - If Lilly appears in Season 3, this would most likely be an important decision, this decision could shape her story of survival if she decides to tell Clementine whatever happened to her and this could affect how Lilly currently thinks of Lee. This may affect her relationship with Clementine and it could be mentioned by Clementine or Kenny.
Who shot Duck? - This decision seems like it would most likely be mentioned by Kenny in Season 3, it's already been mentioned but Kenny hasn't lost fondness for his family and has mentioned Duck in almost if not each episode of Season 2, this decision may change how Kenny tells Clementine about Lee, it's already been mention in season 2 episode 2 but it could still be mentioned in season 3.
Who did you save first? - If Christa makes an appearance in Season 3 she could mention who Lee saved first after both Christa and Omid fell out of the train. She may look back at it differently depending on who Lee saved.
Did you kill the boy in the attic? - This is kind of similar with the who shot Duck decision, Kenny might mention whether he had to shoot the boy in the attic or not.
Did you save Ben? - This decision could be mentioned by Kenny or Clementine, they both had different views on Ben so this decision could have a small effect on their relationship, the most likely thing to happen is just Ben's fate being talked about.
Did you chop off Lee's arm? - This decision could affect how Clementine thinks of the whole cutting your arm off thing, especially combined with a similar decision in season 2. She's mentioned how it didn't work with Lee before and she could do so again if circumstances become similar.
Did you kill The Stranger? - Either Lee killed him or Clementine did, I think this decision should have a growth affect on Clementine and help determine how she feels about killing the living.(P.S. does The Stranger have a name?)
Did you stop Lee from turning? - This is probably going to be the biggest decision that could create growth with Clementine and determine how she feels about killing people, especially her own friends. I'd think Clementine may be able to mention that she either had to kill Lee or not, although in Season 2 she says she had to kill Lee even if you didn't kill him.
400 Days - The decisions in the DLC would only really matter if characters from it returned in Season 3. If Clementine meets the 400 Days cast, they might tell her about their decisions if she asks them and how they react to Clementine could be determinant depending on whether they went with Tavia to Howe's Hardware Store or not. If Wyatt or Eddie appear, they could talk about what happened after one of them was forced to abandon the other. If Russell appears he could talk about the kind of person he though Nate was, if Nate appeared he could mention Russell and maybe even Wyatt or Eddie. If Bonnie saved Leland he could make an appearance and if Bonnie were to return she could tell Clementine about her story at one point. Shel and Becca's relationship could be determined depending on whether Shel chose to kill Stephanie or escape in the R.V. If Vince shot Justin's or Danny's foot off he could mention this and maybe if Justin was saved he would make an appearance in Season 3. Another way of making the decisions matter is that their fates are determinant depending on whether they went with Tavia to Howe's Hardware Store or not, maybe if they stayed behind they ended up dying or if they went to Howe's Hardware Store they ended up dying and those who don't end up dead, would end up meeting Clementine in Season 3.
Season 2:
Did you try to save Christa? - This decision could be the decision that determines whether Christa appears in Season 3 or not and if she appears regardless, her attitude towards Clementine might be different depending on if Clementine tried to save her or not or it could just mean that Christa is injured in Season 3 if you didn't try to save her.
Did you give water to Victor? - Victor's fate was never clear, giving him water may have insured his survival for Season 3 and he could end up meeting Clementine and even thanking her or it could've been a good deed that leads to Victor reappearing but not being apart of Clementine's team but instead being an enemy of Clementine? If Victor appears regardless, his attitude towards Clementine may differ depending on this one act.
Did you save Nick? - This decision could be mentioned by Clementine in Season 3 and could affect how others see her and she might talk about Nick differently depending on when he died.
Did you save Alvin? - This decision could be brought up by Kenny or Clementine, they may talk about Alvin and what he did for the group depending on when he died and talk about how he died, they could make it so that Alvin's corpse can be found in Howe's Hardware Store if he died in season 2 episode 3.
Did you watch Kenny kill Carver? - This could determine how your Clementine reacts to deaths and how she feels about them, the choices we get could be different depending on this decision and maybe affect how some people look at Clementine, such as Jane's response to Clementine either watching Kenny kill Carver or leaving with Sarita.
Did you chop Sarita's arm off? - This could strengthen the affect of how Clementine feels about chopping peoples arm off if they are bit, considering that Lee dies no matter what and Sarita dies as soon as she loses her arm, the choice to cut someone's arm off in Season 3 may not be available if Clementine chooses to chop Sarita's arm off, that would create a twist if in season 3 cutting a person's arm off will save them but Clementine thinking that it won't refuses to do so. It would show how your decisions affect how Clementine thinks.
Did you leave Sarah at the trailer park? - This decision could be mentioned by Clementine or Jane in Season 3, they may talk about Sarah and remember her differently depending on when she died and Clementine might still have Sarah's glasses if she never gave it to her and Jane may share her opinion on the situation once again and if Clementine talks about this decision to others, it may affect their perspective on what kind of person Clementine is.
Did you shoot Rebecca? - Kenny may mention having to shoot Rebecca or may talk to Clementine about having to shoot Rebecca. If Bonnie, Mike and Arvo appear in Season 3 some of them may mention this if Clementine chose to shoot Rebecca.
Did you protect AJ? - This decision could affect Clementine's instinct in a situation where AJ is in danger and may cause a change in choices where Clementine automatically goes to AJ's aid or not.
Went to help Luke? - Jane and Kenny could mention this decision and their thoughts on it but it would most likely have the biggest affect on Bonnie if she returned, even though she's determinant, she could have a different reaction to seeing Clementine again depending on this one decision as she did when Clementine was shot.
Did you shoot Kenny? - This decision will most likely be mentioned by Clementine and characters around her may react differently depending on whether she shoot Kenny or not, such as Lilly and Christa may have different opinions depending on Clementine's choice. Kenny or Jane may also mention this in season 3, more likely Kenny than Jane as she wanted to put the past behind.
What's your ending? - The ending should affect the beginning of the story of Season 3, the starting location, who Clementine is with and the decisions Clementine has to make. It would be great if your ending had a big affect on each episode of season 3 and depending on which you choose may change the events that occur throughout the season.
I know that was pretty lengthy but meh.
So what do you guys think? What are your opinions on how decisions can matter in Season 3? Which decisions do you think can create an effect and why? Share your thoughts down below, share your agreements and disagreements down below if you'd like to and have the time and have a Happy Holiday and hoped you all enjoyed 2014.
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Also maybe the side choices could matter to like in season 2 if you chose to let clementine drink maybe there will be options in season 3 to either talk about her drinking or maybe there is an option for her to start drinking or maybe by than became a drinker or if you chose for clem to smoke in season 2 than maybe in season 3 she starts smoking or becomes a smoker and you chose both in season 2 than in season 3 she either starts or became a drinker and a smoker
I was thinking of including side choices but I didn't want it to be too long but allot of side choices did end up having more of an effect than some of the tough decisions so I definitely agree!
This is a good list, but just some things.
We never know, I mean the original walking dead crew just went back all the way to Atlanta in the first half of Season 5 and I'm not too sure if it was over 2 years because Doug and Carley stayed with the group for up to about 4 months into the apocalypse.
Makes sense but I was referring to Clementine telling Kenny in Amid The Ruins that she killed Lee.
Most likely not a large scale but seeing as it was the last decision of the first season but didn't change the ending as much, it's growth on Clementine should continue.
I felt the same way about Kenny when I heard his agonizing screams of death until I saw him again in Season 2 Episode 2.
I do as well, it felt like the Carver choice affected Sarita more than anyone, she seemed like she thought Clementine was picking the wrong decision by staying.
I'd really like to see TellTaleGames switch things up and make determinants people that can last for the whole series, I know it's a bit much to ask but it'd be nice to have someone from each season that survives the apocalypse to kind of create a main group, so far that main group is Clementine, AJ and Kenny/Jane.
Instead of 'I had to shoot Lee' she says 'I lost my parents, and I lost Lee', but she doesn't say to stop being an asshole to Kenny.
Cool, thanks.
Wait, how do you know it was 8 months that Clementine was with Christa and Omid? Also, the bodies may not have fully decayed as many of the walkers they pass by could've been the ones that were there from the beginning not to mention that they never come across a walker who has been fully decayed.
Clementine leaves the scene before anything happens though and if I recall, there's no mention of walkers by the cabin group after coming back from the stream. Victor could've even been unlikely saved by someone, no one really knows since his status is unknown and as for Kenny, he wasn't in a better situation, in the middle of an alleyway with walkers coming from both sides and he originally died and there hasn't been any confirmation on how he got out of his situation. Just saying anything can happen in The Walking Dead.
It seems that they treat Clementine more adult-like if she stayed behind and more like her age if she left with Sarita.
It could happen, if TellTaleGames does show some hope for characters then I think it would make the game series better, I mean they can't really make choices from each season matter unless a character from that season appears because allot of the tough decisions are directed at certain people so those choices won't matter as much unless the character the choices are directed to appears in future seasons.
Ok thanks, actually I now remember a thread of this way back.
Yet it's still hard to justify someone as dead if we've never see them die on screen or see their corpse on screen, sometimes we never find out whether they lived or died.
Just mentioning what Lee/Clem did in a situation is not really an effect, it's just mentioning it. You should think more critically about how to incorporate tough choices because just having a character mention something is a cheap way for choices to have an "effect".
Well some decisions can't really be incorporated differently as they can't really cause much of an effect but only be mentioned in specific ways, considering the game revolves around the story and dialogues taking up the most part of the story, mentioning a decision does create an effect to the story, it may be a cheap way but not every major decision is going to matter in the long run.