If there is a new Antagonist for Season 3, what would you like them to be like?
And who would you like to voice the character?
Here's what I'd like to see the character be like.
Gender: Male.
Race: Caucasian.
Personality traits: Charismatic, Smart, Methodical. ( The kind of character where your not exactly sure if he's a villain, or not.)
Voice Actor: Tom Berringer.
Reason: Tom Berringer plays a great villain. He's proved from such movies as Platoon, and more recently when he played Jim Vance in the Hatfield's&McCoy's miniseries; which I think is the best role he has done to date.
He has a deep pleasant sounding voice, and when he's on screen, you always get the feeling that he's either been up to something, or that he is currently up to something; something sinister.
How about you?
DISCLAIMER: I realize there's been threads on this subject.
And I would've made a thread about a new topic, if it wasn't for the fact that everything regarding TWD has been talked and re-talked to death.
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Tom Berringer is a great actor! It would be interesting to see him in the game.
Here's mine:
Gender: Female
Race: Caucasian
Personality traits: cold, ruthless, intelligent, deceptive, sadistic
Voice Actor: Milla Jovovich
Reason: Milla Jovovich is familiar with the zombie genre having worked on Resident Evil movies. She would be good playing a villain character in a zombie apocalypse instead of a hero character like she always does.
A villan that is actually a viable and understandable alternative (episode 2 carver)
Not a new character but...
I want to see Steve out of Russell' s 400 Days story take an antagonist role with Nate.
This will never happen but getting Daniel Day Lewis to play him would be amazing, if not him then Kevin Spacey.
A female villain perhaps? We've only had one of those so far compared to roughly 5 male villains.
Variety is cool.
Rather than seeing one main antagonist, I think it would be interesting to see various antagonistic characters like in season one. Other than that I'd like if our villain was understandable and we could empathize with them at times while still disliking them and their actions.
speaking of resident evil... I wanna see Paul Mercer VO in the walking dead xD
Well, that's what we've had for the last two seasons, isn't it?
Multiple antagonists throughout.
Season one had the Save Lot Bandits, the St Johns, Crawford (sort of) and the Stranger.
Season two had Carver and arguably Kenny.
then the episodes were written by shinji mikami and akira yamaoka, sean (which i think its impossible, sadly ).. but i think some of you would just say no
well just my crazy idea
I'd be for this. I wouldn't count Tavia as a villan and Brenda St, John was the least memorable St John of them all.
I never really thought of it that way, but yeah, I guess your right. I think for the most part of the season Kenny was a pragmatist but in the last two episodes he could have definitely been considered an antagonist.
I personally don't regard pragmatism and antagonism as mutually exclusive.
It's definitely up for interpretation, but with the aggressive treatment of Sarita in episode 2, forcing Clem to take the walkie talkie and nearly getting the whole group killed in the truck in episode 3, and numerous incidents in episodes 4 and 5, he is the only person outside of Carver's group that even came close to being an antagonist in my game.
In regards to pragmatism and antagonism not being mutually exclusive, they can and do overlap. However, pragmatism has to deal with how you solve problems and your general outlook on life. If you were to be pragmatic than you would have a realistic approach on things based off of knowledge and probability, this is how you would achieve goals. On the other hand antagonism has to deal with how you interact with other people, animals, and your surroundings. So if you were antagonistic you would interact with your surroundings in an aggressive manner. So you can be antagonistic and pragmatic at the same time but only when it makes sense, because pragmatism is a idealism based around logic if you were pragmatic you would only approach something antagonistically when it helps solve problems. Kenny would in this way not be pragmatic except in his own mind. I actually think that now that I've considered this, Kenny would without a doubt qualify as an antagonist.
Well being an antagonist in a story doesn't make you an 'antagonistic' person.
Being 'antagonistic' is being purposefully aggressive and distancing. You can be an antagonist while still trying to get on with people.
Yeah I think he does. I mean it is sort of up for personal interpretation but when most of your group votes for something and you don't let them do it you're basically a dictator.
In my opinion Kenny became unintentionally antagonistic and because of that became a problem for Clementine, which kept the story from progressing and ultimately made him an antagonist.
I think that's an eloquent and effective summary.
An Ally that turns on you. Someone you know is a danger but can empathize and feel sorry for. Someone enigmatic like The Stranger. Someone who becomes a villain and turns against you
Race: Caucasian
VA: Troy Baker
Personality Traits: As a Hero: Bold, Intelligent and Independent. As a Villain: Broken, Cold and Angry
Would this ally betray you out of strong emotion or thought out manipulation?
More out of emotion and anger than actually being evil. Someone that jerks the tears out of you when they finally turn against you
Not realistic, imo
a female villain might work in the normal world, but i am pretty sure all woman's rights/privileges would go out the window when the ZA hits. Bad guys would obviously treat women badly, i don't think they would take orders from them.
Ben was kinda like that. Kinda.
PTSD Combat Soldier who smokes/drinks and abuses cough syrup.
Race: Mixed UK/Italian
VA: Michael McConnohie
Personality Traits: Unhappy, apathetic, Angry, Loyal,Funny, Smart/Resourceful, PTSD Jerky,
Ben never intentionally harmed the group
No it was kind of dumb how everything was Ben's fault.
That's a very specific view of a bad person you have.
People can be bad without hating women. Bonnie and Tavia are given positions of responsibility by Carver for instance.
The thing is, the villains (or at least good villains) don't believe what they're doing is wrong.
Brenda St John is essentially the leader of the St John group. She holds the sway.
Carver technically wasn't a villain imo, When you say villain you mean Carver, when i say Villain i'm thinking of rapist bandits in the woods, or the guys who probably raped/killed Christa.
Still waiting for the group that worships the zombies, make it happen TellTale
...right, but I'm using it to mean general antagonist here. Like the stranger and Brenda and Carver etc.
Person who works against the protagonist.
Brenda St. John is their mother. It's kinda understandable that she holds the sway.
i liked ben too, he reminded me of people i knew in my own life.
Yes that is why I said kinda. Ben is a danger that you can empathize with and feels sorry for,must he never intended to harm anyone.
Ben turning into something more.
I liked Ben though.
How would his PTSD effect him? Does he just show it in his violent actions, or does it make him kinda traumatized like Sarah?
I like it though. Sounds like a solid character,
..did I say it wasn't?
I was referring to what George had said about 'bad guys mistreating women' and I simply stated to you that Brenda inherently holds the sway of the St. John's. So agreeing with you, but pointing out that the most likely reason she's their leader is because she's their mother.
I don't even know.
A cult? I've been waiting for that too.
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He kinda reminds me of myself, you know?
Someone who possess an overbearingly strong sense of self-entitlement, ungratefulness, victim blaming, and lack of empathy for others. The kind who expects to be rewarded for even the smallest tasks given.
Initially appears as a reliable and unassuming ally of the group with strong opinions over all subjects, even irrelevant ones. Eventually the flaws starts to become more apparent the more in danger the group is in, whether they are directly the cause of it or not, and quickly causes tension in the group by committing unnecessarily cruel acts for the sake of 'surviving' when more ethical and reasonable options are available, such as abandoning well abled people to their deaths in situations where they could easily be saved with team effort.
And then comes the betrayal as the individual ends up feels humiliated (from his/her point of view) over an argument with the group, which ruins his reputation. He/she leaves the group, but not without taking everything the group had from supplies and weapons as an act of spite. This ends up with the group being defenceless at the worst possible moment, and a few team members lives are lost as a result. The remaining survives hunts down the one responsible as an act of revenge, who doesn't even manage to get away far enough from the group in spite of being a 'hardened' survivor, and is killed as an act of revenge.
Not the most original idea, but it could fit in well in the Telltale Walking Dead universe.
...Kenny + Arvo + Lilly?
I actually think it'd be interesting for the 'antagonist' this time around to be a loner, perhaps a broken child around the same age as Clem. A budding serial killer who uses their age and size to deceive their prey before robbing and killing them.
Well, I did say it wasn't my most original idea.
The serial killer in the form of a child would work well if Clementine finds herself in a Lord of the Flies environment, but I doubt Telltale would pull it off without making the antagonist act like the kid from Omen.