The terrible fight with Kenny and Jane could have been avoided if

Kenny just shot her. He had a gun he went in there and cleared the place out full of walkers then the teleporting ones showed up on Clem and Jane. That stupid fight scene could have been avoided but why not? Because.... plot. Gotta put the bunny shit cherry on the diarrhea sundae.

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  • edited January 2015

    Maybe he ran out of ammo or he dropped his gun. In the Wellington ending, Clem is the only one who has a gun when Edith tells them to drop their weapons, so it's quite possible he just lost his weapon. Or, like I said, he wasted all his ammunition. He probably used most of it at the shootout when he was firing at Vitali to the point where he only had a few shots left, and then he used them to kill the walkers when he went looking for gas.

  • ^This

    He only shoots 2 bullets and instead of running to the truck he runs to the stations, so he probably ran out of ammo

    Maybe he ran out of ammo or he dropped his gun. In the Wellington ending, Clem is the only one who has a gun when Edith tells them to drop t

  • or maybe he wanted to kill her with his own two hands, and watch the light dim from her eyes.

    Poogers555 posted: »

    ^This He only shoots 2 bullets and instead of running to the truck he runs to the stations, so he probably ran out of ammo

  • It's the same reason why Kenny dropped his gun when Carver held them up at the end of Episode 3 - Clem & he would look less "badass".

  • What? You're saying he should have just walked in and shot her without a word to avoid a fight?

  • Now that I can believe.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    or maybe he wanted to kill her with his own two hands, and watch the light dim from her eyes.

  • He was planning on killing her anyway. Nothing she could have said would have changed that. The only reason that stupid fight scene broke out because Telltale wanted to give us a choice. In real life anyone with brains would have just blown hers out.

    KCohere posted: »

    What? You're saying he should have just walked in and shot her without a word to avoid a fight?

  • DeltinoDeltino Moderator

    I don't know if it's fair to say "in real life X would have done Y"

    We're in the middle of an apocalypse where death runs rampant, everyone is almost certifiably insane, everyone is heavily emotionally traumatized by this point, and their nerves are absolutely frayed every waking second of their lives now

    Not to mention that Kenny is in a state of pure unadulterated rage, who knows what the hell is going through his mind? Maybe he thinks shooting Jane is too good for her. Maybe in this state of rage he forgot he even had a gun (people gain an abnormal sense of tunnel-vision when they are completely and utterly pissed off. You fighting with someone like that? They don't give a shit about anything other than getting their hands around the neck of whoever pissed them off.) Maybe he straight up doesn't have ammo or dropped it earlier. None of it is entirely out of the question.

  • In real life anyone with brains would have just blown hers out.

    In real life, it wouldn't been a fair fight, luckily for Jane its a video game. Another example of bad writing, he could of disarmed her, taken her knife, forced her to talk but he didn't. Its like crossing the ice. We all knew how that was going to end.

    Clemenem posted: »

    He was planning on killing her anyway. Nothing she could have said would have changed that. The only reason that stupid fight scene broke out because Telltale wanted to give us a choice. In real life anyone with brains would have just blown hers out.

  • Well, the gun HAS ammo. But you have a point - Kenny's rage is irrational, and it makes him do stupid shit like trying to start a fistfight.

    Deltino posted: »

    I don't know if it's fair to say "in real life X would have done Y" We're in the middle of an apocalypse where death runs rampant, everyo

  • Why waste the time? He let her live longer and almost wound him. Why put yourself at risk when you can end shit quick?

    Deltino posted: »

    I don't know if it's fair to say "in real life X would have done Y" We're in the middle of an apocalypse where death runs rampant, everyo

  • DeltinoDeltino Moderator

    Does it? The gun that drops during the fight is Clementine's, not Kenny's. He didn't take out or have a gun at any point during that scene.

    Bokor posted: »

    Well, the gun HAS ammo. But you have a point - Kenny's rage is irrational, and it makes him do stupid shit like trying to start a fistfight.

  • DeltinoDeltino Moderator

    The last thing you should ever expect from an angry person is logic

    Clemenem posted: »

    Why waste the time? He let her live longer and almost wound him. Why put yourself at risk when you can end shit quick?

  • He damn well could have. The entire scene seemed to fake and plot based. This would never happen

    Deltino posted: »

    Does it? The gun that drops during the fight is Clementine's, not Kenny's. He didn't take out or have a gun at any point during that scene.

  • What about a Angry Vulcan?

    Deltino posted: »

    The last thing you should ever expect from an angry person is logic

  • Or Lex Luthor

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    What about a Angry Vulcan?

  • Not like that would've helped the situation though. But if they didn't provoke each other? Then yeah, probably.

  • Kenny logic right there. Shoot first, ask questions later.

    Clemenem posted: »

    He was planning on killing her anyway. Nothing she could have said would have changed that. The only reason that stupid fight scene broke out because Telltale wanted to give us a choice. In real life anyone with brains would have just blown hers out.

  • Or Or...Jane couldn't have pretended to kill the one of the last things keeping Kenny sane in an attempt to kill him/prove a point.

    That would've avoided the fight entirely.

  • I still hate the idea that this newborn was holding Kenny's sanity togetherc

    Or Or...Jane couldn't have pretended to kill the one of the last things keeping Kenny sane in an attempt to kill him/prove a point. That would've avoided the fight entirely.

  • I don't know why you do, it makes sense.

    KCohere posted: »

    I still hate the idea that this newborn was holding Kenny's sanity togetherc

  • I can take pleasure in knowing her frozen body is waiting to reanimate with a knife out her chest. Bitch

    Or Or...Jane couldn't have pretended to kill the one of the last things keeping Kenny sane in an attempt to kill him/prove a point. That would've avoided the fight entirely.

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    Clemenem posted: »

    I can take pleasure in knowing her frozen body is waiting to reanimate with a knife out her chest. Bitch

  • Wow.... If Kenny just proved her wrong and took his time to understand what happened and did not attack her...... Forget it.

  • But if Jane didn't do anything then it would have turned out okay.

    pcharl01 posted: »

    Wow.... If Kenny just proved her wrong and took his time to understand what happened and did not attack her...... Forget it.

  • False equivalency.... What she did was wrong but IMO her actions does not justify him automatically going after her like that, even if you hated her guts.

    But if Jane didn't do anything then it would have turned out okay.

  • To be fair, they were both acting like children when they started arguing in the car. I don't see any "right" in either of their actions.

    pcharl01 posted: »

    False equivalency.... What she did was wrong but IMO her actions does not justify him automatically going after her like that, even if you hated her guts.

  • Let's think through Kenny's eyes...Here's Jane who has been antagonizing you this entire car ride and you only have two people left in this world you care about and is keeping you sane...One of which just got shot by someone you've been abusing. Then you stop for gas on the way to a place you are sure exists and you think will keep you safe. You get ambushed by walkers and make your way to the place everyone agreed to go.

    Clem shows up without AJ and then Jane shows up without AJ saying he's dead. You then run out and see no sign of him and you think she killed him (Even if she didn't she left him out there to die). You go back in as Jane someone that has been a problem just had one of the last things keeping you sane killed. You freak out...You don't calmly think it through...You just go by instincts.

    pcharl01 posted: »

    False equivalency.... What she did was wrong but IMO her actions does not justify him automatically going after her like that, even if you hated her guts.

  • edited January 2015

    If Kenny wasn't crazy and irrational then Jane wouldn't have to do anything and the fight could have been avoided. The end.

  • Are you kidding me?

    The baby doesn't care, it doesn't know what's happening. Clem shouldn't have that responsibility but she does it for everyone, Kenny and Jane. All the baby has to do is be protected by Kenny, that's literally all, so that isn't much of a responsibility.

    KCohere posted: »

    Because a baby shouldn't have that responsibility?

  • Because a baby shouldn't have that responsibility?

    I don't know why you do, it makes sense.

  • I understand him losing it and going after her. He did not trust her but at the end of it, AJ was not dead. So he made a bad action by Jane worse by acting out the way he did. Even if you hated Jane's guts, there is something really sadistic about how hard people are riding for Jane's death.

    Let's think through Kenny's eyes...Here's Jane who has been antagonizing you this entire car ride and you only have two people left in this

  • That doesn't matter, Jane acted like he was dead. It wasn't that Kenny didn't see anything and go after her while she was saying it was alive. No, she brought that on herself, she wanted everything to go down the way it did...Mostly. I hate Jane's guts, I dislike Kenny but there isn't anything sadistic about wanting Jane dead, there is however something sadistic in acting like a baby's dead to make an old crazy guy lose his sanity and attack you so you can have him killed.

    pcharl01 posted: »

    I understand him losing it and going after her. He did not trust her but at the end of it, AJ was not dead. So he made a bad action by Jan

  • Are you kidding me?

    The baby doesn't care, it doesn't know what's happening. Clem shouldn't have that responsibility but she does it for everyone, Kenny and Jane. All the baby has to do is be protected by Kenny, that's literally all, so that isn't much of a responsibility.

    KCohere posted: »

    Because a baby shouldn't have that responsibility?

  • If jane saved her sister nothing of this would have happened.

    If Kenny wasn't crazy and irrational then Jane wouldn't have to do anything and the fight could have been avoided. The end.

  • I think any caring parent would have reacted the same. We have to remove the darkness from the world so bye Jane

    If Kenny wasn't crazy and irrational then Jane wouldn't have to do anything and the fight could have been avoided. The end.

  • If Stripe hadn't written In Harm's Way none of this would have happened

    If jane saved her sister nothing of this would have happened.

  • If that dumbass cop had watched the road, then none of this would have happened.

    If jane saved her sister nothing of this would have happened.

  • edited January 2015

    I don't think they mean it by saying that it is AJ's fault if he dies, or that he has a conscious responsibility to take care of Kenny emotionally...It is that in a world like this, it is likely that AJ will die, so Kenny's morality chain is extremely fragile.

    Are you kidding me? The baby doesn't care, it doesn't know what's happening. Clem shouldn't have that responsibility but she does it for

  • If Lee never killed that senator then none of this would have happened.

    If that dumbass cop had watched the road, then none of this would have happened.

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