Reasons why Clem won't be S3 playable character.

  1. S2 can end with so many different alternate endings, I don't think TT will have the time to pull of such a job of starting S3 from each of the endings.
  2. Before S2 finale came out TT released a tribute trailer for Clementine, which to me seemed like a farewell to her sort of thing.
  3. You get to choose how her story in S2 ends and where you would like to see her end up, instead of her being killed off.
  4. After the endings of S2 I really can't see what else they could do with her story, it is a good way to finish it.
  5. Growing her up to a older age would involve too many time skips and Kirkman has not allowed that as it would interfere with the comic timeline or whatever.
  6. I don't know if it was true but did TT say the words "New Angle" as a first clue to S3? So could mean a whole new story, characters, settings etc.

If they were to have Clem as the PC again then it would just be cheap and make the whole of the S2 endings meaningless and both Kenny and Jane would end up dead before the start of S2 or right at the start.

Some things have to end I'm afraid, sorry.

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  • No offense, but the examples you're using are hardly conclusive. As Spock would say, "you have no evidence, only a theory which happens to fit the facts."

  • I don't know if it was true but did TT say the words "New Angle" as a first clue to S3?

    Either Sean Ainsworth or Dennis Lenart said it in this IGN interviewClick here

    Also, there was an interview on Gameinformer where they talked to Kevin Bruner and he said our endings will play a major role in Season 3. That to me is a dead giveaway that Clem will be involved in Season 3, but it in no way guarantees she will be the PC. Here's the article if you're interested: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/11/05/extended-afterwords-the-walking-dead-season-two.aspx?PostPageIndex=1

  • edited January 2015

    One major problem with your statement. If you think that TTG will start season 3 with the whole new story, characters etc. then it shouldn't be called "season 3". Why? Because season 3 means that the story we'll see is suppose to have at least a few connections to the story from previous seasons. TTG already called it as "season 3" so it means that it'll be a continuation of the story.

  • The more I see, the more I suspect Christa will turn out to be the PC. Telltale left her fate unknown for a reason.

    (...unless they REALLY want to blindside us, and cast Mike instead. But if that happened, I'd rather play as the raccoon.)

  • I remember that TTG said something about her disappearence. Something like that "sometimes people we know are just gone and we never have any chance to find out what happened to them or if they even still alive".

    So there is also a big chance that we'll never see Christa again. Shame :C PC or not she could be a great character.

    The more I see, the more I suspect Christa will turn out to be the PC. Telltale left her fate unknown for a reason. (...unless they REALLY want to blindside us, and cast Mike instead. But if that happened, I'd rather play as the raccoon.)

  • Well, I guess they were already stretching things a bit with Kenny, although I'm glad he came back. If no one other than Clementine, AJ, and Kenny/Jane were to return in S3, I could live with that.

    Tewudin posted: »

    I remember that TTG said something about her disappearence. Something like that "sometimes people we know are just gone and we never have an

  • edited January 2015

    Me too though it's a shame he's determinant now. It makes Clementine the only character from season 1 that is still alive. The rest is either dead, determinant or their fate is unknown. In fact Clementine and AJ are the only known characters that are alive and not determinant.

    Well, I guess they were already stretching things a bit with Kenny, although I'm glad he came back. If no one other than Clementine, AJ, and Kenny/Jane were to return in S3, I could live with that.

  • That pissed me off a bit when they said that, I know its realsm but they need to remember that its still just a video game and it frustrates people wanting to know what happens to people.

    Tewudin posted: »

    I remember that TTG said something about her disappearence. Something like that "sometimes people we know are just gone and we never have an

  • But the same thing is in TV show or comics. There were a plenty of characters that just disappeared from the story and so far we don't know what happened to them. Telltale is doing the same thing with some of the characters.

    ShaneWalsh posted: »

    That pissed me off a bit when they said that, I know its realsm but they need to remember that its still just a video game and it frustrates people wanting to know what happens to people.

  • I think the OP has a good argument here, of course we dont have any proof at this point.. everything is conjecture...

    But I agree, I think this has a high probability of happening tbh...

    All the characters bar clem and AJ are dead/determinant or unknown, the idea put forward here wraps up the S2 endings nicely, I think we will meet clem and learn what became depending on your endings.... it makes sence folks, your carnt deny that!

    Its a heluva lot easier to handle all those endings with a few differing lines of dialogue from clem than rendering several different endings and different games...

    I think it would be a good move, we need clem at our side not actually be her.... and the more I think of this crista idea of being the new protagonist the more I LOVE the idea, we would get clem back where she works best and get the mechanic back that was sorely missing in S2...

    I think this has legs!

  • There are no TV main characters who have an unknown status.

    Tewudin posted: »

    But the same thing is in TV show or comics. There were a plenty of characters that just disappeared from the story and so far we don't know what happened to them. Telltale is doing the same thing with some of the characters.

  • I like the way you think. :)

    Craticus posted: »

    I think the OP has a good argument here, of course we dont have any proof at this point.. everything is conjecture... But I agree, I thin

  • I think the OP has a good argument here

    Not to be rude, but...

    Really?

    Craticus posted: »

    I think the OP has a good argument here, of course we dont have any proof at this point.. everything is conjecture... But I agree, I thin

  • edited January 2015

    What about Morales and his family? He was an important part of the group in season 1 but then he went to look for the rest of the family. Merle had an unknown status until season 3 because he escaped from the rooftop in Atlanta and we didn;'t know if he was still alive. Morgan also had unknown status until season 3 SO don't tell me that in TV show there wasn't any character that had or has an unknown status because there are few.

    ShaneWalsh posted: »

    There are no TV main characters who have an unknown status.

  • It maybe a crazy thing to say, but I really think that Telltale could bring a character from the first episode, like Lilly, or we also can play as Christa and really know what happened to her after Clementine left.
    I'm with ShaneWalsh on this. There were 5 different ways to end the game. How will TT start a season 3 with everyone's ending?

  • How will TT start a season 3 with everyone's ending?

    I think we can all agree that the worst-case scenario would be for Telltale to pull a MASS EFFECT 3 on us.

    Yes, juggling multiple situations and dialogue can be a nightmare, but damn it, that's what you guys are being paid to do. We the players want to see our choices matter, even on a superficial level.

    baltiao posted: »

    It maybe a crazy thing to say, but I really think that Telltale could bring a character from the first episode, like Lilly, or we also can p

  • Telltale has not said if she will be the protagonist again, don't go throwing around dumb facts.

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    I think the OP has a good argument here Not to be rude, but... Really?

  • I think they could easily tie in all the endings. It would have to lead to Wellington. In the Kenny endings you are already there, in the alone ending Clem eventually stumbles upon Wellington while wandering around with AJ, and in the Jane endings Howe's Hardware gets attacked again, or supplies run out and they decide that there only option is to try Wellington. Of course this sucks for Jane/Kenny, because they would probably have to be killed off or disappear somehow.

    Now I'm not saying this disproves that Clem won't be the protagonist, I just don't think it's as hard as you say to tie in the different endings. I can see another game without her as the protagonist, but I can't see a game where she isn't a central character.

  • Well, Im just hoping our ending in season 2 really will impact season 3 and not just a different opening, a real impact

  • Don't get me wrong, I am rooting for a new playable character/story/setting mainly because it would be more interesting IMO. But at the same time, Clem not being PC will strike me as lazy writing from Telltale to avoid making your endings play a part.

    So yeah, even though nothings been confirmed there's a good chance she won't be the PC for S3 because of the reasons you said, but at the same time there are a lot of reasons why she would be.

  • +1 to OP, Love that Man Shane BABY!

    I'd post the gif He's right you know , but it's been posted so many times, let us just imagine it instead, lets pretend we can see Morgan Freeman pointing up, with the white text at the bottom of the picture. Ahhhh yeah baby there it is, magic.

  • You're so salty the ocean ain't got shit on you.

    lmao

  • edited January 2015

    If kenny is not in season 3 (I really hope he is) i will cry for days and be really mad at Telltale. I love Kenny so much.

  • so

    Now that's rude isn't it.

  • Are you trying to be funny?

    You're so salty the ocean ain't got shit on you. lmao

  • Simply Put... If I'm Not Playing As Clem, Im Done W/ The Game. It Was Hard Enough 2 Give Up Lee, But I'v Done Got Too Emotionaly Dedicated 2 Clem... I Hope She Progresses 2-3 More Years Older And All Will Be Good! That Being Said I Understand
    Sometimes You Gota Just Move On... But That Shit Isn't Happening Here,, It's Clem Or Nothing Yo

  • Telltale did say that our endings are important to the story of season 3 so I would assume we'll be playing as Clem because she's the only one who definitely survives in everyone's ending... of course they could play as someone who comes and finds clem but I think that would be a bit stupid of them to do and I doubt they would

  • they arn't going to put kenny in it because he dies in some endings? They would have to make a completely different game for everyones endings to do that

  • There is also AJ but Telltale in that case would need to make at least 7-10 years timeskip which isn't possible. Even if they could (but they can't extend TWD timeline beyond comics) it'd be stupid to make so huge timeskip. Also it doesn't make sense.

    AlanLeo_7 posted: »

    Telltale did say that our endings are important to the story of season 3 so I would assume we'll be playing as Clem because she's the only o

  • Just that it was rude, I thought that was clear.

    ShaneWalsh posted: »

    so

  • I have different opinions on Clem being protagonist and if you want to know them then >>https://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/89941/thoughts-on-how-season-3-should-be-if-clementine-isn-t-protagonist?new=1<<; there's the link to it, just a reminder it's seriously long and I would only recommend reading it if you have a lot of time and you really want to know how I think it should go, I like your opinions on it and think you have some nice points. :)

  • How was that meant to be funny? Do you find me funny? A lot of people do, so you wouldn't be a first.

    Maybe you should think twice before telling me to shut up.

    Pfft, like I'm going to listen.

    ShaneWalsh posted: »

    Are you trying to be funny?

  • Abandon ship, Golden. He'll just bring you down.

    Just that it was rude, I thought that was clear.

  • Sassy InfiniteDawn for the comebacks :P

    I find you funny :)

    How was that meant to be funny? Do you find me funny? A lot of people do, so you wouldn't be a first. Maybe you should think twice before telling me to shut up. Pfft, like I'm going to listen.

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    ClemyIsLove posted: »

    Sassy InfiniteDawn for the comebacks :P I find you funny

  • edited January 2015

    1.S2 can end with so many different alternate endings, I don't think TT will have the time to pull of such a job of starting S3 from each of the endings.

    Well they are currently doing their latest series with multi-protagonists, which leaves to more diversity I suppose. If they're able to handle to multiple protagonists, surely they can handle multiple story roots. Even if it's for a fraction of the season. And the endings of S2 left more questions than answers, and leaving them unanswered seems lazy.

    2.Before S2 finale came out TT released a tribute trailer for Clementine, which to me seemed like a farewell to her sort of thing.

    I considered it as a hype trailer. Yes it did seem like it was the end, but I believe it was TTG just teasing us. You know them and their teasing.

    3.You get to choose how her story in S2 ends and where you would like to see her end up, instead of her being killed off.

    Again. It left with more questions than answers. A real ending would answer all these questions, and leave with a better conclusion.

    4.After the endings of S2 I really can't see what else they could do with her story, it is a good way to finish it.

    Oh there are plenty of ways her story can go from here. Just like with Rick, she still has more to go with.

    5.Growing her up to a older age would involve too many time skips and Kirkman has not allowed that as it would interfere with the comic timeline or whatever.

    She can only grow up for another 2 years so she'll still be a kid. It's a fresh idea from our usual badass adult male protagonist. Yes there are restrictions with a child, but so is there for an adult. Both sides has restrictions that the other cannot do. For example, Lee was too big to climb through the vent shaft in 102, and who had to go through? Clementine.

    6.I don't know if it was true but did TT say the words "New Angle" as a first clue to S3? So could mean a whole new story, characters, settings etc.

    This is a 50/50 chance. "New Angle" could mean anything. And another clue is that TT mentioned about how our endings in S2 will have an important impact to S3. Hinting more closely that Clem's story is not finished.

    Forgive me but these are generally... weak points as to why she won't be as a pc. We have almost nothing to go by about this playable character dilemma.

  • edited January 2015

    Who the fuck is she? She's hot!

  • I love you too man.

    The hell with these brainless Clem and anti Nate fanboys/girls.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    +1 to OP, Love that Man Shane BABY! I'd post the gif He's right you know , but it's been posted so many times, let us just imagine it ins

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