I completely agree with everything you just said. Luke's death was necessary because of the fact that he was the glue. And it really shows how vital he was that, when he dies, how quickly the group does fall apart and turn on Kenny.
I didn't think it was as bad as Amid the Ruins or No Going Back, but there should have been more character exploration and focus on Carver and his community in general that was wasted. And the 400 days cameos were really lame.
I loved Carver's character. I thought he was a great antagonist for the story. TT could have really made Howes a hell-hole for the group. I think they missed the mark on that one. 400 days characters could've really made their mark in this episode. The best parts of this episode for me are Carver, walking thru the herd....um...
TBH, I was hoping for Carver's followers to have a more humanized portrayal rather than condemning them as brainwashed goons - this is one r… moreeason why the 400 Days characters' cameos were disappointing. Tavia smoking in private isn't exactly a good sign of "corruption spreading through its ranks."
One irony I find is that Bonnie was probably meant to come across as a good person for betraying Carver. In reality, it simply makes her seem fickle and untrustworthy - does she honestly feel no regret for fucking over a community full of people whom she presumably knew and perhaps had friends with?
I'm not condemning the episode or saying it was horrible. In Harm's Way was just a little lack luster in my opinion. I felt it didn't live up to it's potential. I felt as though episode 2 was the climax with everything going downhill from the end of A House Divided.
"Worst video game ever made"
Move over Big Rigs: Over the road racing, ET, Ride to hell: Retribution and Custer's revenge, it looks like … morethere's a new champion in town
yeah no, S2 can't even come close to receiving the title of "worst game ever"
They'd need to enter a whole new physically impossible level of not trying in order to even come close to it
I'm not going to go into full on detail about it, but everything in the episode felt so forced and fake. Example, when Arvo shoots Clem he has no reason too. It would make sense if Clem was threatening Mike or shot him like how it was originally made. But the writers decided that it would be a good idea for it to happen anyway. (Then segway into that stupid Lee dream.)
I know that some events in the story are forced and have to happen for the sake of the plot, but it feels that in "No Going Back" that everything was forced. (Luke's death, having to talk to Kenny/Jane, etc, etc.) I know I'm using poor examples but hopefully you see what I'm saying.
(Sorry it took so long to reply to you, I've been busy and forgot.)
I agree with you that that most of the drama felt forced, but I felt like that the whole season after she shacked up with the Cabin group... With regards to Arvo shooting Clem, yes, in that moment he didn't have a reason to shoot her, but he was still sour about what happened with Natasha and holds it against you that Jane and/or you steal from him. So, in his mind he has reason to shoot her. I was really disappointed that you couldn't shoot Mike, but I think Arvo shoot Clementine happened organically. I mean, if you were in Arvo's position, wouldn't you take the open shot if you could? Maybe, Maybe not, but it's understandable why Arvo shot Clem.
I'm not going to go into full on detail about it, but everything in the episode felt so forced and fake. Example, when Arvo shoots Clem he h… moreas no reason too. It would make sense if Clem was threatening Mike or shot him like how it was originally made. But the writers decided that it would be a good idea for it to happen anyway. (Then segway into that stupid Lee dream.)
I know that some events in the story are forced and have to happen for the sake of the plot, but it feels that in "No Going Back" that everything was forced. (Luke's death, having to talk to Kenny/Jane, etc, etc.) I know I'm using poor examples but hopefully you see what I'm saying.
(Sorry it took so long to reply to you, I've been busy and forgot.)
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Yep. You have to choose between Luke, and the ending, because Season 2 wouldn't have ended with as much of a bang if Luke was there.
I didn't think it was as bad as Amid the Ruins or No Going Back, but there should have been more character exploration and focus on Carver and his community in general that was wasted. And the 400 days cameos were really lame.
ur kid
u think that it is the worst game because people think that it has some problems
poor kid
I loved Carver's character. I thought he was a great antagonist for the story. TT could have really made Howes a hell-hole for the group. I think they missed the mark on that one. 400 days characters could've really made their mark in this episode. The best parts of this episode for me are Carver, walking thru the herd....um...
I agree In Harm's Way was the worst, most boring episode of season 2. So much wasted potential among other things....
Yeah, she first betrays our group and gets Walter killed and then turns on carver and then betrays you when she leaves with Mike and Arvo.
The entire episode felt artificial, that's why I didn't like it.
I didn't like it, but then again the Second Season was average at best imo.
How so?
I'm not condemning the episode or saying it was horrible. In Harm's Way was just a little lack luster in my opinion. I felt it didn't live up to it's potential. I felt as though episode 2 was the climax with everything going downhill from the end of A House Divided.
Well it's certainly not a good game. Mention of S2 just angers me, it makes me remember how I got robbed.
Whoever thinks this was the worst videogame ever made has obviously never played the ps2 version of Spider-Man Web Of Shadows
I'm not going to go into full on detail about it, but everything in the episode felt so forced and fake. Example, when Arvo shoots Clem he has no reason too. It would make sense if Clem was threatening Mike or shot him like how it was originally made. But the writers decided that it would be a good idea for it to happen anyway. (Then segway into that stupid Lee dream.)
I know that some events in the story are forced and have to happen for the sake of the plot, but it feels that in "No Going Back" that everything was forced. (Luke's death, having to talk to Kenny/Jane, etc, etc.) I know I'm using poor examples but hopefully you see what I'm saying.
(Sorry it took so long to reply to you, I've been busy and forgot.)
I agree with you that that most of the drama felt forced, but I felt like that the whole season after she shacked up with the Cabin group... With regards to Arvo shooting Clem, yes, in that moment he didn't have a reason to shoot her, but he was still sour about what happened with Natasha and holds it against you that Jane and/or you steal from him. So, in his mind he has reason to shoot her. I was really disappointed that you couldn't shoot Mike, but I think Arvo shoot Clementine happened organically. I mean, if you were in Arvo's position, wouldn't you take the open shot if you could? Maybe, Maybe not, but it's understandable why Arvo shot Clem.
yep agreed
played it once
never again