Sean is not coming back, it would be great if he does (he is my favorite writer for TWD), but he's moved on and started Camp Santo with Rodk… morein. If he were by some miracle to come back, then I would change my staff to Vanaman, Breckon, and Shorette, but he's not. I'm looking forward to Firewatch though.
Its not like its an impossibility. Anything can happen and the odds of him and Rodkin succeeding with this very small completely unknown indy studio is unbelievable opposed to Telltale growing more and more. IMO I think Telltale could have hired him instead of wasting money on guest stars in S2
Sean is not coming back, it would be great if he does (he is my favorite writer for TWD), but he's moved on and started Camp Santo with Rodk… morein. If he were by some miracle to come back, then I would change my staff to Vanaman, Breckon, and Shorette, but he's not. I'm looking forward to Firewatch though.
I'm not saying it's impossible either, anything can happen, but it is highly unlikely to happen. And even if Campo Santo does fail (which I don't think it will, Firewatch looks really good from what I've seen and people will be attracted to it because it's written by the guys who did Season 1), whose to say they will want to come back to Telltale.
Its not like its an impossibility. Anything can happen and the odds of him and Rodkin succeeding with this very small completely unknown ind… morey studio is unbelievable opposed to Telltale growing more and more. IMO I think Telltale could have hired him instead of wasting money on guest stars in S2
Why is the turbine thing such a problem with people? I suppose it's unlikely she'd do that, but people act as if its, 'how DARE you ask an 11 yr. old to turn a key!' Clem volunteered to do it anyways b/c Carlos asks if anyone knew how. I guess she could've watched the perimeter for zombies. That's a much safer and realistic task for Clem to do
Yes some of the things were unlikely for her to do, but she is the PC and it's not as unrealistic as freaking corpses walking around eating people. Nothing she did was too out of line for a kid her age to do
I agree she was given the overbearing weight of responsibility in S2, sewing her harm was realistic seen as Christa showed her, but turning … moreoff wind turbines and kicking down a door is just plain unrealistic. I would like S3 to have player choices where you can choose to have a character helping Clem.
Graphics look a little Team Fortress to me and that was back in August nothing has been said about it since. Even if it is good I don't think it would live up to any of the fame that Telltale Game has had. It would be more lucrative for him to go back and he knows Breckon they could team up rather well.
I'm not saying it's impossible either, anything can happen, but it is highly unlikely to happen. And even if Campo Santo does fail (which I … moredon't think it will, Firewatch looks really good from what I've seen and people will be attracted to it because it's written by the guys who did Season 1), whose to say they will want to come back to Telltale.
A Vanaman and Breckon duo would be incredible no doubt, those two are (in my opinion) the best writers for TWD. But I still think Firewatch has a lot of potential and I believe it will succeed. And while the graphics aren't that good, remember, early Telltale games had bad graphics as well when they started out and look at them now. Campo Santo, while it is going up against Telltale, still has a lot of room to grow and succeed.
Graphics look a little Team Fortress to me and that was back in August nothing has been said about it since. Even if it is good I don't thin… morek it would live up to any of the fame that Telltale Game has had. It would be more lucrative for him to go back and he knows Breckon they could team up rather well.
-Hubs like the good old days [but no long ass trains puzzles, for the love of-]
-Free up the camera in hub modes to an over the shoulder … morelook? [Life is Strange styleee.]
-Hugs, because giving hugs are beautiful.
-Difficulty modes for quick-time events. [e.g: Easy, Normal, Hard, Pro]
-Characters ACTUALLY remembering stuff and treating you differently for it.
-Developed characters that don't randomly nor constantly keep bringing up their dead family to make you feel bad for them. ["I thought about Duck today." "Shut up I wanna sleep!" / "Jaime always had one in her purse" "I don't care."]
-Your decisions throughout the season weighing on what the ending will be [where the game estimates maybe the amount of times you sided with somebody or how much of an asshole you were.]
-Unlockables [e.g concept art, making of vids, costumes! o.o]
-Stop killing everybody.
-More horror, actual straight out 'Jesus Christ they're so sc… [view original content]
You seemed to of misheard me. I said don't kill everybody, not, don't kill nobody >.> besides more horror doesn't always mean higher death rates. That's a lame slasher flick clichés right there otherwise.
-More horror, actual straight out 'Jesus Christ they're so screwed! where'd the hell that come from!? AAAAH!' horror.
-Stop KILLING e… moreverybody! >.<
Well, that kind of horror usually has to entail somebody dying, so...you can't have both.
Sean is not coming back, it would be great if he does (he is my favorite writer for TWD), but he's moved on and started Camp Santo with Rodk… morein. If he were by some miracle to come back, then I would change my staff to Vanaman, Breckon, and Shorette, but he's not. I'm looking forward to Firewatch though.
New locations Jane and 400 days characters mentioned circuses and amusement parks. Those could be new locations to explore.
New, unique characters Such as a homosexual, a former celebrity, or someone who has a crush on our protagonist.
More animals There's only been a cow, a dog, a moth, a racoon family, and a bunch of crows. Where's some deer, snakes, wolves, bears, cats, foxes, and hamsters?
More free roaming areas Interacting with characters brings more character development and immersion. Season 2 lacked this.
More meaningful choices Choices that determine the attitudes and fates of characters. And also choices that really alter the story like choosing to join a group or be alone.
Side events While in the main story, there could be other things to do too. Like hunting, repairing things, rescuing people, or scavenging for supplies.
More zombie attacks Nothing more to say than that.
As an adult, in a life/death situation, i would step up and take charge of the situation, not delegate it to the 11 PC. It broke immersion, like when Clementine kicks down a door.
Why is the turbine thing such a problem with people? I suppose it's unlikely she'd do that, but people act as if its, 'how DARE you ask an 1… more1 yr. old to turn a key!' Clem volunteered to do it anyways b/c Carlos asks if anyone knew how. I guess she could've watched the perimeter for zombies. That's a much safer and realistic task for Clem to do
Yes some of the things were unlikely for her to do, but she is the PC and it's not as unrealistic as freaking corpses walking around eating people. Nothing she did was too out of line for a kid her age to do
I know you weren't a fan of Season 2, but I thought Breckon's episodes came the closest to capturing the feel of Season 1. His episodes had more exploration, hubs, character development, and choices than the other episodes of Season 2.
From what i understand (not saying its 100% true, just rumor i heard) they are going a new direction, so imo it would make more sense to hire fresh blood.
I know you weren't a fan of Season 2, but I thought Breckon's episodes came the closest to capturing the feel of Season 1. His episodes had more exploration, hubs, character development, and choices than the other episodes of Season 2.
I know Dennis Lenart and Sean Ainsworth (2 directors and cinematic artists at Telltale) said that Season 3 will involve a new angle during an IGN Playing Dead interview, that may be what you're thinking about. A new angle is very vague and could mean a bunch of things and can be interpreted differently. It could be a whole new protagonist, it could mean an older Clementine, it could simply be Clementine now being forced to defend for herself. But an interview with Kevin Bruner done by Gamespot, where he talks about how our endings will have a role in Season 3, and Melissa Hutchison's comments at Walker Stalker Con seems to indicate that Clementine will be back, we just don't know if she will be the PC or not.
From what i understand (not saying its 100% true, just rumor i heard) they are going a new direction, so imo it would make more sense to hire fresh blood.
I strongly agree with the hubs we need more of those for better interaction between characters and hugs are the best, [Hug Kenny] and [Hug Luke] those were the choices that made the game feel more than a game. I to think it would be good to have a bit more of characters liking you or resenting you depending on whether you were nice to them or depending on who you sided with like in S1 and I would also like a few more characters to survive.
-Hubs like the good old days [but no long ass trains puzzles, for the love of-]
-Free up the camera in hub modes to an over the shoulder … morelook? [Life is Strange styleee.]
-Hugs, because giving hugs are beautiful.
-Difficulty modes for quick-time events. [e.g: Easy, Normal, Hard, Pro]
-Characters ACTUALLY remembering stuff and treating you differently for it.
-Developed characters that don't randomly nor constantly keep bringing up their dead family to make you feel bad for them. ["I thought about Duck today." "Shut up I wanna sleep!" / "Jaime always had one in her purse" "I don't care."]
-Your decisions throughout the season weighing on what the ending will be [where the game estimates maybe the amount of times you sided with somebody or how much of an asshole you were.]
-Unlockables [e.g concept art, making of vids, costumes! o.o]
-Stop killing everybody.
-More horror, actual straight out 'Jesus Christ they're so sc… [view original content]
the task wasn't delegated to her. she volunteered...like I said, I guess it would've been safer for her to scour the perimeter for the dead. It's really not that big a deal. I didn't feel like, 'oh no they didn't'....people talk about how unrealistic it was for her to do that, but the whole concept of the living dead is unrealistic...I dunno...I just don't get why that gets everyone's panties in a bunch
As an adult, in a life/death situation, i would step up and take charge of the situation, not delegate it to the 11 PC. It broke immersion, like when Clementine kicks down a door.
New locations Jane and 400 days characters mentioned circuses and amusement parks. Those could be new locations to explore.
New, unique c… moreharacters Such as a homosexual, a former celebrity, or someone who has a crush on our protagonist.
More animals There's only been a cow, a dog, a moth, a racoon family, and a bunch of crows. Where's some deer, snakes, wolves, bears, cats, foxes, and hamsters?
More free roaming areas Interacting with characters brings more character development and immersion. Season 2 lacked this.
More meaningful choices Choices that determine the attitudes and fates of characters. And also choices that really alter the story like choosing to join a group or be alone.
Side events While in the main story, there could be other things to do too. Like hunting, repairing things, rescuing people, or scavenging for supplies.
More zombie attacks Nothing more to say than that.
New locations Jane and 400 days characters mentioned circuses and amusement parks. Those could be new locations to explore.
New, unique c… moreharacters Such as a homosexual, a former celebrity, or someone who has a crush on our protagonist.
More animals There's only been a cow, a dog, a moth, a racoon family, and a bunch of crows. Where's some deer, snakes, wolves, bears, cats, foxes, and hamsters?
More free roaming areas Interacting with characters brings more character development and immersion. Season 2 lacked this.
More meaningful choices Choices that determine the attitudes and fates of characters. And also choices that really alter the story like choosing to join a group or be alone.
Side events While in the main story, there could be other things to do too. Like hunting, repairing things, rescuing people, or scavenging for supplies.
More zombie attacks Nothing more to say than that.
He wasn't hiding it, they just didn't go around telling everyone. Walter openly tells Clementine that Matthew is his partner if you have Clem ask Walter about him
I think that's why Kenny assumes Luke and Nick are together; he's only been around Sarita, Walter and Matthew for a while
I told you because it breaks immersion to rely on a child. Its not realistic from a adult perspective.
the whole concept of the living dead is unrealistic...I dunno..
but you still have to follow the basis of reality in a television show or else it will pointless. May as well give Clementine a no clip AK 47, and have her fire it like rambo.
the task wasn't delegated to her. she volunteered...like I said, I guess it would've been safer for her to scour the perimeter for the dead.… more It's really not that big a deal. I didn't feel like, 'oh no they didn't'....people talk about how unrealistic it was for her to do that, but the whole concept of the living dead is unrealistic...I dunno...I just don't get why that gets everyone's panties in a bunch
And I'm saying I don't think it does break immersion. It didn't for me. Why not give her an AK or a mini oozie (not sure on the spelling)? I don't think anything clementine did was too out of line for someone her age to do
I told you because it breaks immersion to rely on a child. Its not realistic from a adult perspective.
the whole concept of the living… more dead is unrealistic...I dunno..
but you still have to follow the basis of reality in a television show or else it will pointless. May as well give Clementine a no clip AK 47, and have her fire it like rambo.
And I'm saying I don't think it does break immersion. It didn't for me. Why not give her an AK or a mini oozie (not sure on the spelling)? I don't think anything clementine did was too out of line for someone her age to do
I never thought to ask this but why don't you like AJ? I mean I know he's a plot device but its something to fight for even if he is just a generic brat
* Longer episiodes 2-3 hours each
* More episodes GOT has six episodes, why not TWDG?
* Better Storytelling/ (i know this is a sensitive … moresubject for some of you.) When you expose your audience to nothing but bad, and more bad they get desensitised to the whole experience. That is why half of the players honestly don't care what happens to CLementine now. Remember how you felt when the St.John's grabbed Clementine at the supper table? How did that make you feel, did you feel the same way when Carver smacked her in the face. I know i didn't.
* Better Character relationships- I am going to use Dragon Age Inquisition as a example in good Character design. This game had seven hours of full party banter. That was one of the nice touches about this game, the characters would have interactions with each other, some would like each other, other would dislike each other. It made them feel more alive when you would just hear some random comment… [view original content]
I never thought to ask this but why don't you like AJ? I mean I know he's a plot device but its something to fight for even if he is just a generic brat
Pointless plot device, that i could give two shits about. You think jane is heartless about AJ, I'd make jokes about dumpster babies, but yeah its true... Does not care.
I never thought to ask this but why don't you like AJ? I mean I know he's a plot device but its something to fight for even if he is just a generic brat
* Hubs,Hubs,Hubs,Hubs, and more Hubs
* Side storys from other NPCs.
* Better Character development.
* Better choice system. (i.e decision… mores that have the community result that are 50-50 or 60-40 not 80-20 or 95-5)
* Clem is the protagonist again. I don't care what people say, she was awesome and will develop this season.
* Antagonist that aren't evil for the hell of it.
* AJ doesn't die just to make Clem angst.
* Kenny and Jane survives for the whole season.
* Factions mode like the Fallout and S.T.A.L.K.E.R franchises.
* Decisions that balances Clementine's own sanity. (Kinda like a younger urban version of Far Cry 3's Jason Brody.)
Clem is a kid, despite us knowing her for 2 seasons, she has plenty of character development needed to reach into Season 3. Although the cho… moreice matters will be seen straight from Episode 1 Season 3, depending on which ending you picked for Season 2. Trust me, the choices WILL matter.
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Agreed.
Longer episodes is what I´d appreciate the most.
And Clementine. Always Clementine.
Its not like its an impossibility. Anything can happen and the odds of him and Rodkin succeeding with this very small completely unknown indy studio is unbelievable opposed to Telltale growing more and more. IMO I think Telltale could have hired him instead of wasting money on guest stars in S2
I'm not saying it's impossible either, anything can happen, but it is highly unlikely to happen. And even if Campo Santo does fail (which I don't think it will, Firewatch looks really good from what I've seen and people will be attracted to it because it's written by the guys who did Season 1), whose to say they will want to come back to Telltale.
Why is the turbine thing such a problem with people? I suppose it's unlikely she'd do that, but people act as if its, 'how DARE you ask an 11 yr. old to turn a key!' Clem volunteered to do it anyways b/c Carlos asks if anyone knew how. I guess she could've watched the perimeter for zombies. That's a much safer and realistic task for Clem to do
Yes some of the things were unlikely for her to do, but she is the PC and it's not as unrealistic as freaking corpses walking around eating people. Nothing she did was too out of line for a kid her age to do
Graphics look a little Team Fortress to me and that was back in August nothing has been said about it since. Even if it is good I don't think it would live up to any of the fame that Telltale Game has had. It would be more lucrative for him to go back and he knows Breckon they could team up rather well.
A Vanaman and Breckon duo would be incredible no doubt, those two are (in my opinion) the best writers for TWD. But I still think Firewatch has a lot of potential and I believe it will succeed. And while the graphics aren't that good, remember, early Telltale games had bad graphics as well when they started out and look at them now. Campo Santo, while it is going up against Telltale, still has a lot of room to grow and succeed.
Well, that kind of horror usually has to entail somebody dying, so...you can't have both.
You seemed to of misheard me. I said don't kill everybody, not, don't kill nobody >.> besides more horror doesn't always mean higher death rates. That's a lame slasher flick clichés right there otherwise.
Hire someone else?
New locations Jane and 400 days characters mentioned circuses and amusement parks. Those could be new locations to explore.
New, unique characters Such as a homosexual, a former celebrity, or someone who has a crush on our protagonist.
More animals There's only been a cow, a dog, a moth, a racoon family, and a bunch of crows. Where's some deer, snakes, wolves, bears, cats, foxes, and hamsters?
More free roaming areas Interacting with characters brings more character development and immersion. Season 2 lacked this.
More meaningful choices Choices that determine the attitudes and fates of characters. And also choices that really alter the story like choosing to join a group or be alone.
Side events While in the main story, there could be other things to do too. Like hunting, repairing things, rescuing people, or scavenging for supplies.
More zombie attacks Nothing more to say than that.
As an adult, in a life/death situation, i would step up and take charge of the situation, not delegate it to the 11 PC. It broke immersion, like when Clementine kicks down a door.
I know you weren't a fan of Season 2, but I thought Breckon's episodes came the closest to capturing the feel of Season 1. His episodes had more exploration, hubs, character development, and choices than the other episodes of Season 2.
From what i understand (not saying its 100% true, just rumor i heard) they are going a new direction, so imo it would make more sense to hire fresh blood.
I know Dennis Lenart and Sean Ainsworth (2 directors and cinematic artists at Telltale) said that Season 3 will involve a new angle during an IGN Playing Dead interview, that may be what you're thinking about. A new angle is very vague and could mean a bunch of things and can be interpreted differently. It could be a whole new protagonist, it could mean an older Clementine, it could simply be Clementine now being forced to defend for herself. But an interview with Kevin Bruner done by Gamespot, where he talks about how our endings will have a role in Season 3, and Melissa Hutchison's comments at Walker Stalker Con seems to indicate that Clementine will be back, we just don't know if she will be the PC or not.
I strongly agree with the hubs we need more of those for better interaction between characters and hugs are the best, [Hug Kenny] and [Hug Luke] those were the choices that made the game feel more than a game. I to think it would be good to have a bit more of characters liking you or resenting you depending on whether you were nice to them or depending on who you sided with like in S1 and I would also like a few more characters to survive.
the task wasn't delegated to her. she volunteered...like I said, I guess it would've been safer for her to scour the perimeter for the dead. It's really not that big a deal. I didn't feel like, 'oh no they didn't'....people talk about how unrealistic it was for her to do that, but the whole concept of the living dead is unrealistic...I dunno...I just don't get why that gets everyone's panties in a bunch
Walter from the ski lodge was a homosexual...but i'm guessing you mean someone who is in the game more
Yeah. Or a character who is more open about it and characters acknowledge it. It seemed too subdued with Walter.
Agree with the side events, we got a load of them in S1, but we didn't really get many in S2.
He wasn't hiding it, they just didn't go around telling everyone. Walter openly tells Clementine that Matthew is his partner if you have Clem ask Walter about him
I think that's why Kenny assumes Luke and Nick are together; he's only been around Sarita, Walter and Matthew for a while
I told you because it breaks immersion to rely on a child. Its not realistic from a adult perspective.
but you still have to follow the basis of reality in a television show or else it will pointless. May as well give Clementine a no clip AK 47, and have her fire it like rambo.
And I'm saying I don't think it does break immersion. It didn't for me. Why not give her an AK or a mini oozie (not sure on the spelling)? I don't think anything clementine did was too out of line for someone her age to do
As a man, i would never listen to a eleven year old girl. Period. I wouldn't ask her to do anything, i would ask her to go hide.
Yeah and that girl would probably be dead, like duck and sarah. We've seen how well that mentality has worked out for children post day Z
I never thought to ask this but why don't you like AJ? I mean I know he's a plot device but its something to fight for even if he is just a generic brat
I think AJ is a cute baby.
Are you trying to tell me that a child would have a better chance of survival than a grown adult. Is that what you are telling me?
FICTION!
Pointless plot device, that i could give two shits about. You think jane is heartless about AJ, I'd make jokes about dumpster babies, but yeah its true... Does not care.
Oh is that what I said? No. That isn't what I said
So when you learn some reading comprehension we can finish this discourse
I agree with all of those.
Agreed I think Clem has a lot more potential as a character.