Why was Kenny's escape so hard to believe?
I have seen people on this forum, on youtube, and other places saying that they don't know how Kenny escaped in season 1. Ok I admit that in the games it seems like the people can get caught by zombies fairly easily. But he DID escape so we have to apply more real life type solutions. The answer to me is "He escaped pretty easily". Here is why. Zombies are slow, their reaction time is also slow, and they are clumsy. Now if you want to run an experiment have a friend of family member attempt to catch you using just their hands (not a tackle) as you run by as fast as you can.
I don't actually expect anyone to try because it's really quite obvious. A person running at top speed vs a group of zombies with extremely slow response time won't have difficulty in getting away.
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It's not so much that they're slow, but there was absolutely nowhere to run off to. There were way more zombies than Kenny's, to put it simply. He was swarmed from both sides.
Walkers have the coordination of someone who is really really drunk. Run into them and they fall like bowling pins.
You must be referring to the alleyway and not the dark room scenario. Kenny would not have the space to get to top speed to be able to run zombies over. If that were the case, he would not have to apply zombie guts in "In Harm's Way" to survive. He'd only need space to accelerate.
In the alleyway, the zombies were literally shoulder to shoulder, no way to slip past, and people who say Kenny jumped through a window, there was no time. The walkers were literally on them and Kenny seems to run into them before the screen shifts
In the room, its vaguely possible but still its pitch black and the room is packed with walkers.
At the beginning of A House Divided, Clementine pushes over one zombie and it knocks over a few others with it
Now apply that to a raging floridian man
I could see it happening
I find Yoko's insanely impossible crawl escape move from RE Outbreak more easier to believe than Kenny's escape, and that's not even because she's a tiny 5ft lady who could get past zombie legs easier than that guy.
You're right, it's definitley possible.
Tyreese did it in the show. In the comics, he even managed to clear out an entire gym with nothing but a hammer.
Rick does it in the prison aswell, when he goes rage mode after Lori's death.
It's entirely possible. Kenny could have jumped through a window. I did a analysis of that scene once.
In the alley, he could have gone through a window, they were close enough to the ground. In the dark room, there had to be a door, or where else did all the walkers come from?
Here's what I think happened: Kenny pushed over some walkers, the knocked down others with them. It gave him enough time and room to open a window and flee in one of the houses. Alternatively, he could have found a sewer entrance, like Lee did. But I think window is more possible.
The fact that Christa and Omid didn't know where he went (Alleyway), even though they were on the roof looking down, indicates Kenny didn't fight his way through the alley, but fleed instead.
In the room, there could have been a door leading to a fire escape. Even if not so, Kenny would only have to reach one of the 'bridges' they walk over to. When Lee walks over it, you can see that there is one of those bridges under him aswell.
If Kenny reached one of those, escaping wouldn't be too hard. Walkers are only dangerous if they attack you all at once. The bridges were too narrow for more than one person/walker, so escaping wouldn't be too hard, and if some walkers attacked him from the front, he would be able to fight them 1vs1, which isn't too hard really.
So in the alleyway, Kenny pushed some walkers over (which pulled some walkers with them), then he had enough room and time to flee through a window.
In the dark room, he reached one of the bridges, made his way across to the other building, in that building there were less walkers, he managed to reach the fire escape and then escaped into the streets of Savannah.
I think most people are upset about it mainly because of his "I got lucky" explanation. Even as a fan of Kenny, I thought that was really cheap and lazy. TellTale could've had him say something more descriptive like "I found an open window and managed to pull myself through before they could get to me." But even then, he was in an alley with a large amount of walkers around him and an empty gun, so it's pretty understandable IMO.
That is a reference i haven't thought about in a long time...
A long time.
Its hard to believe because you can't just push through zombies. He was dead.
I dont think Kenny's escape is unbelievable, but as much as I love Kenny, his return would be 1 in a million
....[powers up PS2] it's been a while my friend.
How did I not see that? -__-
If you take the lore about zombies, and how slow, stupid, and no reflexes it's extremely possible. The game causes conflicts like this. In some cases they have someone push a zombie over with ease, in others the zombies seem to have unbreakable grips, and death is certain.
Zombies in S2 were dumbed down compared to S1 zombies and Clem is a super child in S2, so that doesn't really count for me.
The building was pitch black outside the skylight area. There is a possibility that it was not as populated as the alleyway. But taking out a human's strongest sense in a live or death situation like that, No way!
That's...I'm sorry, but that's just plain dumb.
The Kenny-hate in this forum is getting so intense, it actually seems to be shutting down higher brain functions.
It was a joke. I don't even hate Kenny.
Don't offend people with insults on their IQ over a character.
Because he literally died, that was evident before they patched the game.
i'm just gonna leave this here kenny wasn't the only one and this kind of thing has happened before
It's not 'hard to believe', it's just an explanation would have been extremely easy to do.
'I got lucky' is just one of the many examples of lazy and unimaginative writing in season 2.
I personally thought it was bullshit Tyrese lived given the situation, even though he liked him as a character in the comics.
I can get behind this
The walkers must've thought kenny was a pizza. Just like dominos ehh? xD
Use one zombie as a sheild, run at them, keep his head down, blindly start swinging (can't remember if he had a weapon), then... maybe?
In all honesty, they should just retcon a manhole or open window into the scene and solve this problem once and for all
Exactly, Clem pushed down one zombie. Could Kenny do that? Of course. Could he push down fifty of them packed in a tight space and coming from both directions? Hell to the no.
Not applicable to the alleyway, for so many reasons, but the main one being that Tyreese was a friggin' powerhouse of strength and melee fighting. Kenny was not. The other big reason being that a gym allows for Tyreese to move around and get away from a potential cluster forming around him, and the alleyway was packed tight with zombies on both sides.
Even less applicable. Rick had an axe, and at no point did he fight a big cluster of zombies. He just walked through and killed one by one.
I'm fairly sure we saw no windows at all, but even if we did, the idea that he just ran to one, opened it in no time at all, and jumped in while zombies are crowding around him, who would then be totally zeroing in on him after he caused a commotion, is ludicrous.
Besides, if Telltale had wanted us to think that, they would have had Kenny say that to Clementine. But they didn't. Why? Because they couldn't figure out a plausible way for him to have survived. All this is is trying to find reason in a stupidly written scene.
The dark room scene is somewhat plausible. I've said this before. The alleyway is stupid. Period.
Here is a one for you...
"Didn't you promise that we would always be together."
This game makes me laugh.
BUT LILACS KENNY IS SRS FUXKIN BUXNESS. NO JOKES ALLWOWED
Have you ever been in a concert, and trying to push through a bunch of people. Its impossible to push through a crowd, no matter what level the intoxication is. It is physically impossible.
Tyreese has a a weapon, also he's Tyreese not season 1 Kenny that struggles to kill one walker
still doesn't change the fact that it is possible we wouldn't even be having conversations like this if telltale had just explained it properly they fucked up