I did not plan this but I have both the satisfaction of having punished Gryff enough after my own taste and my game having registered it as "you showed mercy to Gryff".
That is, I gave him the two first punches and when the cane-to-the-face came out unexpectedly, I paid a closer look at the situation, Gryff being held powerless by two Glenmore men, me hitting with a cane, and I decided this was not how I viewed Rodrik Forrester.
Also I felt very satisfied with my behaviour in previous episodes, having always stood to the Whitehills and maintained my pride and honour, so I didn't feel such a huge need to go berserk on him. The way I saw it right after Rodrik pulled the cane for the first time, hitting Gryff with a weapon while he was restrained would have been debasing the Forrester's honour, showing magnanimity was on the contrary just another proof the Forresters are so much more noble and respectable than those Whitehill dogs.
Seeing him powerless, reduced to the state of prisoner and denied the woman he thought he was entitled to was enough for my contentment, now he knew who the real Lord was.
I definitely am very happy with my game so far. Never kissed anyone's ring or arse, always stayed true to the motto "Iron from Ice", hard and cold if need be but unbreakable.
Don't know how people who humiliated their characters all the way are feeling, considering we all have the same game status no matter what. But well, perhaps "choices will matter" in some dialogue near the end of episode 6 eventually...
Right, well Talia commanded the person you left behind. I took Duncan with me in my first playthrough and Ser Duncan in my second (in which … moreone I took the Glenmore's with me). Maybe they fighted the way out of there while Talia took one for the team. There wouldn't be much of a chance for us if my whole smallfolk, Gryff and Elaena were lost. That's a battle we can't win.. There's not even a chance then anymore. Perhaps we can still trade our ironwood knowledge with Ramsay Snow for our better half and Ryon.
People keep talking about how Ramsay showed up to free Gryff and kill the Forresters but it's just as likely that Roose Bolton is already ti… morered of the Whitehills and their shoddy ironwood being delivered behind schedule and sent Ramsay to negotiate with Rodrik.
If Ramsay wanted to intimidate Rodrik he wouldn't hide flayed bodies.. he'd display them openly. We can't kill Ramsay and we can't hurt House Bolton.. so i'm going to assume that we'll be able to target the Whitehills at some point without the Boltons interfering.
Robb Stark was also the Bolton's King. Look how that turned out.
If the Boltons are tired of the Whitehills trying to act like big boys and as a result there is slow Ironwood production, they would step in to make them stop.
I punched Gryff once, so he has a slight cut on his cheek. But Ryon has cuts on his face too after Ludd scratched him up during the meeting. So the way I see it, we're even.
I did not plan this but I have both the satisfaction of having punished Gryff enough after my own taste and my game having registered it as … more"you showed mercy to Gryff".
That is, I gave him the two first punches and when the cane-to-the-face came out unexpectedly, I paid a closer look at the situation, Gryff being held powerless by two Glenmore men, me hitting with a cane, and I decided this was not how I viewed Rodrik Forrester.
Also I felt very satisfied with my behaviour in previous episodes, having always stood to the Whitehills and maintained my pride and honour, so I didn't feel such a huge need to go berserk on him. The way I saw it right after Rodrik pulled the cane for the first time, hitting Gryff with a weapon while he was restrained would have been debasing the Forrester's honour, showing magnanimity was on the contrary just another proof the Forresters are so much more noble and respectable than those Whitehill dogs.
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Yes, the Boltons were to the Starks what the Whitehills were to the Forresters. Their competition.
They believed they (Boltons) should be in charge, and really have only been nominally loyal to the Starks for thousands of years. They have killed Starks and gone to war with them multiple times over the years. So to me, Bolton turning on the Starks was inevitable.
I have no delusions that the Boltons are loyal to the Whitehills, or that Roose would hesitate to flay them all if they crossed him. But the Whitehills are still Bolton bannermen and allies until proven otherwise. Which is all i was trying to say to Firewallcano.
Robb Stark was also the Bolton's King. Look how that turned out.
If the Boltons are tired of the Whitehills trying to act like big boys and as a result there is slow Ironwood production, they would step in to make them stop.
If there's one thing I figured out about choices in Telltale Games, it's great example of how Murphy's law works: if there is a possibility of something going wrong if choosing one option, it will definitely go wrong no matter what you choose.
So yeah, since this trade probably wouldn't work out alright if Gryff is beaten up, it won't work even if you showed mercy to him.
Warned Lord Forrester (Didn't save Bowen) /
Swore loyalty to Margaery /
Took Erik's fingers /
Named Royland as sentinel /
Met Ramsay at the gates
Episode 2
Didn't forge the letter /
Didn't kiss Lord Whitehill's ring /
Won Rodrik's betrothal to Elaena Glenmore /
Stood up for Cotter /
Killed Mira's attacker
Episode 3
Helped Malcolm /
Spoke to Tyrion /
Kicked Britt off the Wall /
Stood up to Gryff /
Burned the letter
Episode 4
Brought Finn along /
Showed mercy to Gryff /
Kept Sera's secret /
Ordered the Glenmore's soldiers to stay at Ironrath /
Prevented Beskha from killing the Slave Master
Yes, the Boltons were to the Starks what the Whitehills were to the Forresters. Their competition.
They believed they (Boltons) should be… more in charge, and really have only been nominally loyal to the Starks for thousands of years. They have killed Starks and gone to war with them multiple times over the years. So to me, Bolton turning on the Starks was inevitable.
I have no delusions that the Boltons are loyal to the Whitehills, or that Roose would hesitate to flay them all if they crossed him. But the Whitehills are still Bolton bannermen and allies until proven otherwise. Which is all i was trying to say to Firewallcano.
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I did not plan this but I have both the satisfaction of having punished Gryff enough after my own taste and my game having registered it as "you showed mercy to Gryff".
That is, I gave him the two first punches and when the cane-to-the-face came out unexpectedly, I paid a closer look at the situation, Gryff being held powerless by two Glenmore men, me hitting with a cane, and I decided this was not how I viewed Rodrik Forrester.
Also I felt very satisfied with my behaviour in previous episodes, having always stood to the Whitehills and maintained my pride and honour, so I didn't feel such a huge need to go berserk on him. The way I saw it right after Rodrik pulled the cane for the first time, hitting Gryff with a weapon while he was restrained would have been debasing the Forrester's honour, showing magnanimity was on the contrary just another proof the Forresters are so much more noble and respectable than those Whitehill dogs.
Seeing him powerless, reduced to the state of prisoner and denied the woman he thought he was entitled to was enough for my contentment, now he knew who the real Lord was.
I definitely am very happy with my game so far. Never kissed anyone's ring or arse, always stayed true to the motto "Iron from Ice", hard and cold if need be but unbreakable.
Don't know how people who humiliated their characters all the way are feeling, considering we all have the same game status no matter what. But well, perhaps "choices will matter" in some dialogue near the end of episode 6 eventually...
"Ser Duncan"???
lol
obviously I meant Royland...
Thank you
Robb Stark was also the Bolton's King. Look how that turned out.
If the Boltons are tired of the Whitehills trying to act like big boys and as a result there is slow Ironwood production, they would step in to make them stop.
Could you post all the decisions you have made so far?
Yes, the Boltons were to the Starks what the Whitehills were to the Forresters. Their competition.
They believed they (Boltons) should be in charge, and really have only been nominally loyal to the Starks for thousands of years. They have killed Starks and gone to war with them multiple times over the years. So to me, Bolton turning on the Starks was inevitable.
I have no delusions that the Boltons are loyal to the Whitehills, or that Roose would hesitate to flay them all if they crossed him. But the Whitehills are still Bolton bannermen and allies until proven otherwise. Which is all i was trying to say to Firewallcano.
If there's one thing I figured out about choices in Telltale Games, it's great example of how Murphy's law works: if there is a possibility of something going wrong if choosing one option, it will definitely go wrong no matter what you choose.
So yeah, since this trade probably wouldn't work out alright if Gryff is beaten up, it won't work even if you showed mercy to him.
Sorry about the delay
Episode 1
Warned Lord Forrester (Didn't save Bowen) /
Swore loyalty to Margaery /
Took Erik's fingers /
Named Royland as sentinel /
Met Ramsay at the gates
Episode 2
Didn't forge the letter /
Didn't kiss Lord Whitehill's ring /
Won Rodrik's betrothal to Elaena Glenmore /
Stood up for Cotter /
Killed Mira's attacker
Episode 3
Helped Malcolm /
Spoke to Tyrion /
Kicked Britt off the Wall /
Stood up to Gryff /
Burned the letter
Episode 4
Brought Finn along /
Showed mercy to Gryff /
Kept Sera's secret /
Ordered the Glenmore's soldiers to stay at Ironrath /
Prevented Beskha from killing the Slave Master
Boltons might be pissed because the Whitehills can't craft good ironwood weapons.