Well, if the group refuses to help prevent Sarah from dying in her second scene, then they sure as hell not going to help Luke from dying in all of his scenes either.
Why Kenny, when we're all tied up in Carver's truck, wants us to attack yet doesn't untie our hands??? Like, Kenny... you gotta work with us… more here.
Also, how could Bonnie pull herself up so easily from the lake but Luke couldn't? WHY DIDN'T MORE PEOPLE USE COMMON SENSE TO HELP LUKE ALONG? Distribute your weight, make a human chain, and get on your stomachs.
Walkers are attracted by noise remember, the comics, show, and game really stress that point. The slightest sound is enough to attract walkers to your location. How is it that in the previous episode, walkers are attracted to the sound of water when Lee turns it on in the sewer, but aren't attracted to the sounds of a 37 year old man screaming at the top of his lungs hacking away at them? As soon as he killed the first walker, the rest should have saw him, began to swarm around him, and overpower him, but they just go on with their business and act as if they don't see anything. And no it's not because the walker guts were getting on him and it disguised him, because that only works if you continue to act like a walker. Once you stop acting like one and do anything that somewhat resembles acting like a human, the walkers can easily tell the difference and would begin to attack you, like with Carlos and Sarita in In Harms Way. There's no way Lee, based on what we know about walkers in TWD universe, should have been able to clear a path like that without the walkers noticing. Especially when you had puzzles in previous episodes about either using sound to distract them or preventing sound from attracting them, you can't just decide when that rule applies and when it doesn't, and both seasons are guilty of this, it's not just Season 1.
Not only the story line tho, like most of the people say , how the hell did the baby survive at the winter with just blankets and the group not thinking about how they suppose gonna find food also it seems they dont really have a plan than yhe s1 characters also had a plan like finding a temporary stay with food supplies and guns or clothing, electric fence or any other thing to make them feel safe... but s2 was all about pointless/boring objective like teaching sarah to defend herself wich really not worth it and asking clem to do this and that... well after the another new characters which make them determinant in the end.. yeah kinda like forced or just rushed... like hey how about we add another a little story about this character telling her a little past about she and her sister, well mike doesnt have a story , but at least telltale give him a little spotlight because the episodes are rushed 100% and add russians, well i expect it will become more interesting because i thought before the finale released my prediction before ... is like they will be captured and hostaged by the russians and we dont know or surprised that another unkown , old char of s1 will appear.. and as for kenny.. the loud man with the beard i know what's goin on him all along till the end of the episode lel.. and again i felt sooooooo cliffhang about the cabins, howes hardware and the russian groups... i wanna know more or even tho not so much about them .. just like the other minor characters in s1 ...
Why Kenny, when we're all tied up in Carver's truck, wants us to attack yet doesn't untie our hands??? Like, Kenny... you gotta work with us… more here.
Also, how could Bonnie pull herself up so easily from the lake but Luke couldn't? WHY DIDN'T MORE PEOPLE USE COMMON SENSE TO HELP LUKE ALONG? Distribute your weight, make a human chain, and get on your stomachs.
but there is another rule of walkers that is under used: walkers don't think in the logical sense. I this is illustrated on the episode that meet Eugene. The Walker sees Eugene down a bridge and just fail three stroies. Maybe the walkers didn't know where the sound was coming from.
Walkers are attracted by noise remember, the comics, show, and game really stress that point. The slightest sound is enough to attract walke… morers to your location. How is it that in the previous episode, walkers are attracted to the sound of water when Lee turns it on in the sewer, but aren't attracted to the sounds of a 37 year old man screaming at the top of his lungs hacking away at them? As soon as he killed the first walker, the rest should have saw him, began to swarm around him, and overpower him, but they just go on with their business and act as if they don't see anything. And no it's not because the walker guts were getting on him and it disguised him, because that only works if you continue to act like a walker. Once you stop acting like one and do anything that somewhat resembles acting like a human, the walkers can easily tell the difference and would begin to attack you, like with Carlos and Sarita in In Harms Way. There's no way L… [view original content]
while I do sway more to the side that it shouldn't have been possible for Lee to get out unscathed as he did in the badass mega herd scene, but later on when Lee makes it to the Marsh House, he and Clementine notice when they're leaving that the walker doesn't bite Lee b/c he's covered in walker guts.It's a bit of stretch considering how much yelling went on (it technically should've been enough to set the walkers onto Lee), but it's probably that the infection in Lee had spread enough and he was covered in enough gook that the surrounding walkers simply took him for one of their own...walkers don't actively kill one another, but they don't actively look out for one another either.
Walkers are attracted by noise remember, the comics, show, and game really stress that point. The slightest sound is enough to attract walke… morers to your location. How is it that in the previous episode, walkers are attracted to the sound of water when Lee turns it on in the sewer, but aren't attracted to the sounds of a 37 year old man screaming at the top of his lungs hacking away at them? As soon as he killed the first walker, the rest should have saw him, began to swarm around him, and overpower him, but they just go on with their business and act as if they don't see anything. And no it's not because the walker guts were getting on him and it disguised him, because that only works if you continue to act like a walker. Once you stop acting like one and do anything that somewhat resembles acting like a human, the walkers can easily tell the difference and would begin to attack you, like with Carlos and Sarita in In Harms Way. There's no way L… [view original content]
Also, I still find it odd that we, the eleven year old, had to comfort Jane (who knew him for like two days) after Luke died, yet nobody tried to see how we felt about it. Gahh, that irritated me so much.
Also since every adult in the group depends on Clementine. After she fell in the frozen lake, I can see how everyone is taking care of her cold:
Kenny complains about Avro and the household, Mike is regreting not going around the lake,Bonnie blames Kenny, Jane looking for supplies to stick to Kenny's face, Avro death glaring Clem, and AJ...was...somewhere... all the while Clem was freezing.
That scene was just so bizarre because no one seemed to even notice how Clem was freezing to death except for Jane, who was appropriately freaking out over it. And no one acknowledges Jane freaking out either.
Jane: "We need to start a fire! She's gonna freeze to death!"
Also since every adult in the group depends on Clementine. After she fell in the frozen lake, I can see how everyone is taking care of her c… moreold:
Kenny complains about Avro and the household, Mike is regreting not going around the lake,Bonnie blames Kenny, Jane looking for supplies to stick to Kenny's face, Avro death glaring Clem, and AJ...was...somewhere... all the while Clem was freezing.
I am baffled by this.
I hope you didn't hurt it. Either way, that's pretty awful and I hope you never do something like that again. That's the kind of shit that gets you in the headlines and a cop at your door.
Well if you think about he never gave any personal detail to the group so he didn't really bond with them, he's helped Reggie by cutting his arm off so he wouldn't turn, he's never really done anything bad, even when Kenny was wailing on him he didn't become aggressive. He wanted to risk his life to get the group out so that Clementine wouldn't have to. The thing is we don't really know about Mike so we can't really pinpoint an actual reason, we can only assume :x
That sounds too simple. I don't think people go to those extremes( leaving a little girl to starve) , just because he's a good guy. There has to be a stronger motive than that.
Until we find the reason why(hopefully in season 3), I'm going to assume Mike abandons Clem because he can relate more to Arvo losing his group and his fear of Kenny.
Well if you think about he never gave any personal detail to the group so he didn't really bond with them, he's helped Reggie by cutting his… more arm off so he wouldn't turn, he's never really done anything bad, even when Kenny was wailing on him he didn't become aggressive. He wanted to risk his life to get the group out so that Clementine wouldn't have to. The thing is we don't really know about Mike so we can't really pinpoint an actual reason, we can only assume :x
We've seen that situation before with Sarah's second death, the group just stare dumbfounded while Jane of all people is the one to 'help' her, but only if she's persuaded to do so.
They let a little girl die because they don't have the common sense to work together as team, and it nearly happens again with Clementine because the group forgets what teamwork means.
That scene was just so bizarre because no one seemed to even notice how Clem was freezing to death except for Jane, who was appropriately fr… moreeaking out over it. And no one acknowledges Jane freaking out either.
Jane: "We need to start a fire! She's gonna freeze to death!"
Jane runs off as everyone else ignores her.
...Like, what?
maybe it's because Ralph was originally supposed to be Mike...the scar on Mike's face and ear was supposed to have been from that off screen gun shot between him and Christa...and there was supposed to be a chance for Clem to recognize and confront Mike in In Harm's Way
maybe it's because Ralph was originally supposed to be Mike...the scar on Mike's face and ear was supposed to have been from that off screen… more gun shot between him and Christa...and there was supposed to be a chance for Clem to recognize and confront Mike in In Harm's Way
Dude stop arguing good lord you are inconsistent. It is assumed, not fact, that her dad has taught her things of engineering and such during her childhood, since what else would be the answer? She just knew because of plot?
Exactly, she knew due to shoddy writing, plus it's not like she fucking whipped out a toolbox and fixed the mechanisms, she turned a key. But yet the fact the cabin group left this responsibility to Clementine just shows how she always has to be relevant to the plot due to being the main character.
Dude stop arguing good lord you are inconsistent. It is assumed, not fact, that her dad has taught her things of engineering and such during her childhood, since what else would be the answer? She just knew because of plot?
DAAAAMN! best review of S2 ive ever seen.... totally agree... the difference in S1 and S2 was huge!.. I hope S3 pulls its back or ill be looking for something else I hate to say...
A few things I'd like to point out about that trash ass lake scene
The whole lake scene has to be one of the biggest emotionally artifici… moreal fuck up of a scene I have ever seen. None of it made sense.
1. Build up to it made no sense (really running in front of gun fire are you mentally deficient or just plain stupid),
2: It felt forced (Seriously you dumb bastards just walk around it it's not an ocean it's a lake)
3 Can't save Luke but you can save that useless junkie, Bonnie in a way that makes no sense at all.
4 Afterwards a spit in the face because the only time in the season it focuses on relationships is for 2 damn cut scenes
The cast sucks and are USELESS FUCKING IDIOTS
Luke: Good but monumentally ruined in a Ben fashion from episode 3 - 5
Pete: Had promise but killed off way too early
Nick: Ended up being completely useless. If saved in Episode 2 doesn't say SHIT in episode 3 and dies in Episode 4
Alvin: La… [view original content]
Lee says zombies because zombies are already a known thing through movies/shows and stuff in the comic universe. It's the TV show where they have never seen anything like it before so they call it walkers or biters.
Wait, why just Season 2, Season 1 has plenty of story line problems as well.
* The hospital in episodes 4 and 5 doesn't make any sense.… more Lee enters the basement through the sewers, which means that the hospital would have practically been next to River Street. Yet in episode 5 it's half-way across town, with River Street in the opposite direction.
* Why didn't Ben ask the bandits which friend they had before he started giving them supplies, he just takes their word that they have his friend no questions asked. Pretty stupid Ben.
* At the end of episode 4, when everyone leaves to go look for Clem, they're walking away from the mansion. Yet when they're returning to the mansion in episode 5, they're walking back towards.
* The whole Lee badass scene in episode 5 doesn't make any sense based on what we know about walkers.
* How did Lee know what room and floor The Stranger was on?
* The amazing teleporting walkers in the train depot in … [view original content]
but now, seeing the little vent thing on the side...I watched the video to the point where Lee is looking for Clementine and for a split sec… moreond you can kinda see the side of the shed where the vent would be...from the angle we're given it looks like the vent grill could've been removed...but then that begs the question of still, how did Clementine get stuck in there? if she climbed in through the vent she could've climbed out through the vent, right? it was level to the ground so there should've been nothing keeping her from crawling out
We've seen that situation before with Sarah's second death, the group just stare dumbfounded while Jane of all people is the one to 'help' h… moreer, but only if she's persuaded to do so.
They let a little girl die because they don't have the common sense to work together as team, and it nearly happens again with Clementine because the group forgets what teamwork means.
George was a guy that lived in Carver's compound. The two seemed pretty close, since Carver took personal offense to his murder. Alvin killed George when the cabin group was making their first escape.
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Well, if the group refuses to help prevent Sarah from dying in her second scene, then they sure as hell not going to help Luke from dying in all of his scenes either.
No... No it isn't. You're never told that, it's never hinted. Why would her dad teach her anything about Wind turbines?
Walkers are attracted by noise remember, the comics, show, and game really stress that point. The slightest sound is enough to attract walkers to your location. How is it that in the previous episode, walkers are attracted to the sound of water when Lee turns it on in the sewer, but aren't attracted to the sounds of a 37 year old man screaming at the top of his lungs hacking away at them? As soon as he killed the first walker, the rest should have saw him, began to swarm around him, and overpower him, but they just go on with their business and act as if they don't see anything. And no it's not because the walker guts were getting on him and it disguised him, because that only works if you continue to act like a walker. Once you stop acting like one and do anything that somewhat resembles acting like a human, the walkers can easily tell the difference and would begin to attack you, like with Carlos and Sarita in In Harms Way. There's no way Lee, based on what we know about walkers in TWD universe, should have been able to clear a path like that without the walkers noticing. Especially when you had puzzles in previous episodes about either using sound to distract them or preventing sound from attracting them, you can't just decide when that rule applies and when it doesn't, and both seasons are guilty of this, it's not just Season 1.
Not only the story line tho, like most of the people say , how the hell did the baby survive at the winter with just blankets and the group not thinking about how they suppose gonna find food also it seems they dont really have a plan than yhe s1 characters also had a plan like finding a temporary stay with food supplies and guns or clothing, electric fence or any other thing to make them feel safe... but s2 was all about pointless/boring objective like teaching sarah to defend herself wich really not worth it and asking clem to do this and that... well after the another new characters which make them determinant in the end.. yeah kinda like forced or just rushed... like hey how about we add another a little story about this character telling her a little past about she and her sister, well mike doesnt have a story , but at least telltale give him a little spotlight because the episodes are rushed 100% and add russians, well i expect it will become more interesting because i thought before the finale released my prediction before ... is like they will be captured and hostaged by the russians and we dont know or surprised that another unkown , old char of s1 will appear.. and as for kenny.. the loud man with the beard i know what's goin on him all along till the end of the episode lel.. and again i felt sooooooo cliffhang about the cabins, howes hardware and the russian groups... i wanna know more or even tho not so much about them .. just like the other minor characters in s1 ...
and clementine.. with the truck scene.. "It's snowing, why they are still moving?"
but there is another rule of walkers that is under used: walkers don't think in the logical sense. I this is illustrated on the episode that meet Eugene. The Walker sees Eugene down a bridge and just fail three stroies. Maybe the walkers didn't know where the sound was coming from.
She says so in episode one if you ask her what do her parents do.
"My dad is an engineer, my mom is a doctor"
while I do sway more to the side that it shouldn't have been possible for Lee to get out unscathed as he did in the badass mega herd scene, but later on when Lee makes it to the Marsh House, he and Clementine notice when they're leaving that the walker doesn't bite Lee b/c he's covered in walker guts.It's a bit of stretch considering how much yelling went on (it technically should've been enough to set the walkers onto Lee), but it's probably that the infection in Lee had spread enough and he was covered in enough gook that the surrounding walkers simply took him for one of their own...walkers don't actively kill one another, but they don't actively look out for one another either.
She's never told that she's learnt anything about Mechanics from her father.
Also, I still find it odd that we, the eleven year old, had to comfort Jane (who knew him for like two days) after Luke died, yet nobody tried to see how we felt about it. Gahh, that irritated me so much.
Rebecca's water breaks.
Have an option to say "What does that mean?!?"
What was Clementine doing with pregnant Christa again?
Who is George? Carver mentioned him in A House Divided
Some guy Alvin murdered. Bonnie was talking about him in Ep3 too, but I forgot.
after finding that out I realized what kind of hypocrite Alvin was to Nick.
Also since every adult in the group depends on Clementine. After she fell in the frozen lake, I can see how everyone is taking care of her cold:
Kenny complains about Avro and the household, Mike is regreting not going around the lake,Bonnie blames Kenny, Jane looking for supplies to stick to Kenny's face, Avro death glaring Clem, and AJ...was...somewhere... all the while Clem was freezing.
I am baffled by this.
That scene was just so bizarre because no one seemed to even notice how Clem was freezing to death except for Jane, who was appropriately freaking out over it. And no one acknowledges Jane freaking out either.
Jane: "We need to start a fire! She's gonna freeze to death!"
Jane runs off as everyone else ignores her.
...Like, what?
He touches clem's hat in season 2 episode 2, so he must be killed.
The thing was attacking his dog! What do you want him to do? Just watch?
Their actual reasoning was because "He would take to much away from developing the cabin group" at least thats what I read somewhere
I think they kill characters because they run out of subtitle colors.
Well if you think about he never gave any personal detail to the group so he didn't really bond with them, he's helped Reggie by cutting his arm off so he wouldn't turn, he's never really done anything bad, even when Kenny was wailing on him he didn't become aggressive. He wanted to risk his life to get the group out so that Clementine wouldn't have to. The thing is we don't really know about Mike so we can't really pinpoint an actual reason, we can only assume :x
Maybe her dad took her to a wind turbine.
Until we find the reason why(hopefully in season 3), I'm going to assume Mike abandons Clem because he can relate more to Arvo losing his group and his fear of Kenny.
We've seen that situation before with Sarah's second death, the group just stare dumbfounded while Jane of all people is the one to 'help' her, but only if she's persuaded to do so.
They let a little girl die because they don't have the common sense to work together as team, and it nearly happens again with Clementine because the group forgets what teamwork means.
How?
It's assumed since she fucking turned off a wind turbine so yeah.
So no, you're spouting bullshit
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No idea lol
maybe it's because Ralph was originally supposed to be Mike...the scar on Mike's face and ear was supposed to have been from that off screen gun shot between him and Christa...and there was supposed to be a chance for Clem to recognize and confront Mike in In Harm's Way
Would've been better since Mike had no backstory and was sort of just a background guy anyway.
Dude stop arguing good lord you are inconsistent. It is assumed, not fact, that her dad has taught her things of engineering and such during her childhood, since what else would be the answer? She just knew because of plot?
Exactly, she knew due to shoddy writing, plus it's not like she fucking whipped out a toolbox and fixed the mechanisms, she turned a key. But yet the fact the cabin group left this responsibility to Clementine just shows how she always has to be relevant to the plot due to being the main character.
DAAAAMN! best review of S2 ive ever seen.... totally agree... the difference in S1 and S2 was huge!.. I hope S3 pulls its back or ill be looking for something else I hate to say...
Great example is Pete and Kenny
Lee says zombies because zombies are already a known thing through movies/shows and stuff in the comic universe. It's the TV show where they have never seen anything like it before so they call it walkers or biters.
Maybe Clem was opening the door so everyone else would be able to see the boat? That's my best guess. :B
Maybe, but it would've made more sense for her to simply crawl out and tell the adults
Exactly. What a bunch of dumbasses. They even forget about her in the matter of seconds. Same with Nick.
Clementine still having her hat after surviving her fall in the river.
George was a guy that lived in Carver's compound. The two seemed pretty close, since Carver took personal offense to his murder. Alvin killed George when the cabin group was making their first escape.