What if Kirk introduced a group of Arabs?

Would it be cool to see Arabs that vary from Iraq to UAE? I honestly like to see the texts that pop up in bubbles like نَعَم and السلام عليكم.

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  • I'm not exactly sure anyone in the comics would be happy to see them. Remember, the ZA started in like 2003 in the summer, so the Iraq War had started in the past six months, and it's still pretty close to 9/11.

    I mean it could make sense - refugees, but if like the women were wearing all their garbs, I'd need an explanation on how they didn't get grabbed and killed already.

  • It should be 2007 by now since it's 4 years. And I didn't really say Muslim or anything since they can be Christians.

  • People's most recent thoughts would have been based on then.

    I don't know. I wouldn't have a problem with it, it just would needed to be explained (which the Russians weren't). As long as they're interesting characters.

    Sg190th posted: »

    It should be 2007 by now since it's 4 years. And I didn't really say Muslim or anything since they can be Christians.

  • if like the women were wearing all their garbs

    That would be pretty crazy actually, if it were a group of Middle Eastern women who originally wore all those clothes to cover their faces/bodies (e.g. the hijab or burqa) when the ZA first broke out, and then they realized to survive that they had to shed those extra clothes, because frankly, there's barely any visibility those women have to see if walkers/danger is coming when wearing that stuff....There's many different reasons those clothes can be worn by women, such as tradition, fashion, religious reasons, and also sometimes the seclusion of women from men. It would be fascinating to see how that sort of situation would play out, not just for the women, but also for the men in a group like that. E.g. if they wear them for religious purposes, what religious person would shed their religious customs, especially when the dead have come back to life, and religion might be one of the last things to help you through the situation? It would be a religion/traditionalism vs. survival conflict.

    I'm not exactly sure anyone in the comics would be happy to see them.

    I wonder if some other non-Middle Eastern survivors might (on unfounded grounds of course) accuse them of starting the ZA. Like they might accuse the Middle East of creating the zombie virus and spreading it through the U.S. as biological warfare.

    I'm not exactly sure anyone in the comics would be happy to see them. Remember, the ZA started in like 2003 in the summer, so the Iraq War h

  • That would be pretty crazy actually, if it were a group of Middle Eastern women who originally wore all those clothes to cover their faces/bodies (e.g. the hijab or burqa) when the ZA first broke out, and then they realized to survive that they had to shed those extra clothes, because frankly, there's barely any visibility those women have to see if walkers/danger is coming when wearing that stuff....There's many different reasons those clothes can be worn by women, such as tradition, fashion, religious reasons, and also sometimes the seclusion of women from men. It would be fascinating to see how that sort of situation would play out, not just for the women, but also for the men in a group like that. E.g. if they wear them for religious purposes, what religious person would shed their religious customs, especially when the dead have come back to life, and religion might be one of the last things to help you through the situation? It would be a religion/traditionalism vs. survival conflict.

    It would be. I'd still need an explanation on how they survived though.

    I wonder if some other non-Middle Eastern survivors might (on unfounded grounds of course) accuse them of starting the ZA. Like they might accuse the Middle East of creating the zombie virus and spreading it through the U.S. as biological warfare.

    This makes me think what ever happened to all the troops deployed in Iraq before the ZA started. That's something I would want Kirkman to tackle.

    sialark posted: »

    if like the women were wearing all their garbs That would be pretty crazy actually, if it were a group of Middle Eastern women who o

  • I don't really care if a character will be an arab,an european,an american or whatever as long as they are interesting and appear for a reason.Not because "why not"

  • I'm OK with it so long as it doesn't perpetuate Orientalistic stereotypes

  • What do 'Orientalistic stereotypes' (whatever that means) have to do with having people from the Middle East in the game? They are not even remotely the same cultures, or regions.

    Aerie88 posted: »

    I'm OK with it so long as it doesn't perpetuate Orientalistic stereotypes

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    I think it would be hilarious! Sort of like a Team America adaptation!

  • I honestly like to see the texts that pop up in bubbles like نَعَم and السلام عليكم.

    Alt text

  • Orientals are East Asians.

    Aerie88 posted: »

    I'm OK with it so long as it doesn't perpetuate Orientalistic stereotypes

  • Stereotypes about Arabs. You know - suicidal terrorists, crazy Muslims, oil sheiks, riding on camels.

    Telltale threw in a bunch of Cold War-era Russians for the hell of it, so I'm wary of the series featuring other foreign groups in an intelligent manner.

    Arya_Stupid posted: »

    What do 'Orientalistic stereotypes' (whatever that means) have to do with having people from the Middle East in the game? They are not even remotely the same cultures, or regions.

  • It'd be a cool twist if, like in 28 Days Later, it turns out that the virus was isolated to America (if not the American continents.) Finding out that the rest of the world is actually doing relatively fine would provide an interesting contrast from the misery of the series.

    That would be pretty crazy actually, if it were a group of Middle Eastern women who originally wore all those clothes to cover their faces/b

  • edited July 2015

    ugh.. someone says Arab.. and the first thing someone mentions is 9/11.. and how they should be grabbed and killed..

  • ?

    longlivelee posted: »

    I honestly like to see the texts that pop up in bubbles like نَعَم and السلام عليكم.

  • True. Arabs don't have to be Muslims at all.

    ugh.. someone says Arab.. and the first thing someone mentions is 9/11.. and how they should be grabbed and killed..

  • Well, if you actually paid attention to my comment, I noted that the ZA takes place relatively close to 9/11, so Americans did not have strong opinions of Arabs, and how let's say refugees, wearing hijabs or burqas, are at a disadvantage because they could be grabbed more easily, which is similarly why Lee can cut Clementine's hair so she couldn't be grabbed.

    ugh.. someone says Arab.. and the first thing someone mentions is 9/11.. and how they should be grabbed and killed..

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    That comment was really weird and came off very strange, me being from Arab grandparents.

    you don't get that Arabs at this day and age have plenty of bad connotations, yet you wanna use them as props?

    Sg190th posted: »

    ?

  • edited July 2015

    نَعَم means yes. It's just basic greetings and responses. It's not bad connotations unless if I put Allahu Akbar. I'm a Muslim myself so I don't really know what you mean by props.

    longlivelee posted: »

    That comment was really weird and came off very strange, me being from Arab grandparents. you don't get that Arabs at this day and age have plenty of bad connotations, yet you wanna use them as props?

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    edited July 2015

    It would be cool...if they don't completely butcher the language, which is extremely easy to do.

    Mumtaaz on the Arabic though, wa alaykum as-salaam.

  • I am aware of what a stereotype is, thanks.

    My confusion comes from the fact that Middle Easterners are not even remotely the same as Asians. They do not share the same region, language, culture or religions. So what do 'Orientalistic stereotypes' have to do with anything at all?

    So my question was really more along the lines of What the Hell is this guy talking about? Not, please list some examples of Middle Eastern stereotypes for me. But thanks anyways.

    Bokor posted: »

    Stereotypes about Arabs. You know - suicidal terrorists, crazy Muslims, oil sheiks, riding on camels. Telltale threw in a bunch of Cold

  • edited July 2015

    speaking russian

    speaking arabian

  • edited July 2015

    look up Orientalism before making ignorant comments

    Arya_Stupid posted: »

    What do 'Orientalistic stereotypes' (whatever that means) have to do with having people from the Middle East in the game? They are not even remotely the same cultures, or regions.

  • Orientalism covers the Near East, Middle East and Far East....people please learn some history

    Aerie88 posted: »

    look up Orientalism before making ignorant comments

  • longlivelee posted: »

    Orientals are East Asians.

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  • don't be ignorant...not all Muslims are extremists....there is good and bad in every religion and your comment proves that you know nothing about Islam or Islamic culture

  • Sorry, but either give me a quick summary of the video b/c i am not watching a 40 min long video b/c someone on a forum told me to.

    Aerie88 posted: »

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVC8EYd_Z_g watch and learn

  • Just adding certain ethnic group in there b/c its "cool"

    Sg190th posted: »

    نَعَم means yes. It's just basic greetings and responses. It's not bad connotations unless if I put Allahu Akbar. I'm a Muslim myself so I don't really know what you mean by props.

  • edited July 2015

    I didn't expect you to watch the whole thing, but remain ignorant for all I care

    the information is there, I'm not going to spoon feed it to you...adults learn things for themselves

    longlivelee posted: »

    Sorry, but either give me a quick summary of the video b/c i am not watching a 40 min long video b/c someone on a forum told me to.

  • "In British English, the term Oriental refers to people from East and Southeast Asia. On the other hand, the word "Asian" refers to people from Indian Subcontinent. Therefore, Orientals is the only term which can refer to people of East Asian origin."

    hey i looked it up. Not Orientalism. It's Oriental People.

    Aerie88 posted: »

    Orientalism covers the Near East, Middle East and Far East....people please learn some history

  • edited July 2015

    adults learn things for themselves

    Because grown adults go on a forum just to teach other people "information".

    You seem so "passionate" on this topic, if you are a an adult, do something more productive on this topic then teaching on a forum.

    Aerie88 posted: »

    I didn't expect you to watch the whole thing, but remain ignorant for all I care the information is there, I'm not going to spoon feed it to you...adults learn things for themselves

  • edited July 2015

    yes, that's the only reason why I come to these forums is to teach the ignorant likes of people like you!

    when people makes ignorant comments, don't get mad when you get schooled, k?

    longlivelee posted: »

    adults learn things for themselves Because grown adults go on a forum just to teach other people "information". You seem so "pass

  • edited July 2015

    yes, that's the only reason why I come to these forums is to teach the ignorant likes of people like you!

    When people makes ignorant comments, don't get mad when you get schooled, k?

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    Who hurt you sweet dearie?

    Aerie88 posted: »

    yes, that's the only reason why I come to these forums is to teach the ignorant likes of people like you! when people makes ignorant comments, don't get mad when you get schooled, k?

  • edited July 2015

    look up Orientalism before make ignorant comments

    • you make
    Aerie88 posted: »

    look up Orientalism before making ignorant comments

  • feel smarter now?

    longlivelee posted: »

    look up Orientalism before make ignorant comments * you make

  • You know what....

    it's not worth being banned again.

    Aerie88 posted: »

    feel smarter now?

  • edited July 2015

    if they do it in a good way like in apocalypse z (book that i higly recommend you ;) ! ) why not ?

    *SPOILERS : but they didnt end up very well tough :(because of their russian leader, one of them got infected and bled from every orifices and i mean the word "every ", *

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