Yeah I'm not going to lie, when I saw that amount of people coming back with Asher I was like "There has got to be more."
The oddly perplexing thing is, I don't know what excuse Telltale had for not showing us a bigger army. They can handle the models, even in animation (as we saw in the fighting pits), and they can handle that many models on screen, so I have no idea what the problem is.
Maybe we can actually convince the men Lord Andros hired to fight for us offering a more considerable price and taking Andros out of the picture... Definitively.
I feel like there are more than we see. Like maybe 20 or 25 warriors, and considering that "1 pit fighter is worth 10 sell swords" we aren't that screwed
Lord Andros is hiring hundreds of sellswords while we get 7-8 guys plus like 5 Forrester Guards and Royland/Duncan, Rodrik/Asher, Beskha, an… mored that's about it. Unless Malcom can all of the sudden convince Targaryen to give us the Second Sons, i don't see how the Forrester's will survive.
From a game design point, I guess Telltale could only place so many dudes on screen. Plus re-using character models is a problem for TT since an indie company can only do so much.
Plus this is Forrester vs Whitehill. I wouldn't expect Lord of the Rings battles, but we'll probably see the same character models fight and die with some crazy edit shots. The unique/main characters fighting is why we bother with this game people!
Speaking of armies, how in the name of anything did Wyman Manderly, the ruler of the largest city in the North and a known Stark loyalist let the fourth born son of an open Bolton ass-kisser just waltz into White Harbor with what seemed to be a large group of troops and slaughter people without so much as a bell ringing for the chaos in the streets?
The damn city watch could have probably snuffed them out.
We didn't see anything in the fighting pits. How many full and unique character models were on screen at any given time? Probably not even as many as when the whitehills ambushed Ashers army of 7 plus Bershka. Also something you probably didn't notice, when the camera switched to a broader (overhead) angle in the pits, many character models disappeared. For a reason, no doubt.
Yeah I'm not going to lie, when I saw that amount of people coming back with Asher I was like "There has got to be more."
The oddly perpl… moreexing thing is, I don't know what excuse Telltale had for not showing us a bigger army. They can handle the models, even in animation (as we saw in the fighting pits), and they can handle that many models on screen, so I have no idea what the problem is.
Do not worry , we'll have our battle with hundreds of men crushing into each other , Don't how they'll manage but i do hope it won't be like walking dead with that big herd of walkers made in cartoon ,
Along with these two who board whilst Asher and Malcolm talk.
I guess we're left to assume that more joined sometime after this? But the boat was leaving at the end of the scene, so I'm not sure how. There's a few new faces on the boat, however. I doubt every single member is above deck here.
This is the only time we really see the army in full, assuming that all of them left the boat together (because why would any stay behind?)
Also, a further shot, showing all of them from a distance. Hard to see them, but they're all there. Determinantly with Bloodsong.
Clearly there's not many. Doesn't help that a few get killed before the fight has really even begun.
Along with one of the best men they have....
With such small numbers, it seems that only a few remain by the end. Asher can even be killed, too. It's doubtful they'll listen to Rodrik, which can only worsen the matter.
So, yeah. Unless Telltale just kept the numbers small to avoid having to make many models, we're only left with a small army that likely could not take on the Whitehills alone. Could be that we're just meant to use our suspension of disbelief and just accept that there's more people in this army than the ones we see on-screen.
I'd say realistically (by old medieval standards) the force Asher brought back would be roughly what most lower nobles would have in their a… morermies. BUT with Game of Thrones really unusual numbers (medieval armies of a 100,000? What the fucking fuck?) it does seem like an abnormally small force.
Realistically, the Forrester soldiers we saw leaving and the Whitehill men in the attack would be around ALL the men both houses would have. In Game of Thrones I never know how many men anyone has. I don't know if they have one hundred, I don't know if they have 25-50, I don't know if they even have +10. Lyman said that Andros is giving Ludd hundreds of sellswords, which would give him an amount of men equal to what a second-tier house (Mormonts, Umbers, Florents, Daynes, etc.) should have.''
To sum up, I don't know. The numbers in Game of Thrones and ASOIAF are so fucked that it's impossible to ever tell who has what, The Forresters and Whitehill… [view original content]
That's something i hate about Ramsey. He is a little shit who wins only because he fights dirty and never faces his enemies in open combat. Ok, the series show him fighting, but those scenes are not even present in the books. Ramsay is literally an insane little cunt who couldn't do shit in a real fight, but somehow always wins because A) his allies are stronger than the opponent or he lures the opponent into a trap and then skins him alive after his men defeated him
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Yeah I'm not going to lie, when I saw that amount of people coming back with Asher I was like "There has got to be more."
The oddly perplexing thing is, I don't know what excuse Telltale had for not showing us a bigger army. They can handle the models, even in animation (as we saw in the fighting pits), and they can handle that many models on screen, so I have no idea what the problem is.
lmao
You must be kidding xD
Yes! Asher still has plenty of gold left, apparently.
Well played
An army isn't a handful of dudes.
I feel like there are more than we see. Like maybe 20 or 25 warriors, and considering that "1 pit fighter is worth 10 sell swords" we aren't that screwed
Good night sweet prince [*]
The next episode is called the Ice Dragon so I'm guessing a Dragon saves us?
An army doesen’t needs to be big. A 1k is an army, but, depending on the timeline, 100 men can also be considered one.
Put, for sure, an army must be more than a handful of men. I don’t even think Asher came with enough people to form a street gang. :P
From a game design point, I guess Telltale could only place so many dudes on screen. Plus re-using character models is a problem for TT since an indie company can only do so much.
Plus this is Forrester vs Whitehill. I wouldn't expect Lord of the Rings battles, but we'll probably see the same character models fight and die with some crazy edit shots. The unique/main characters fighting is why we bother with this game people!
Re used character models, a fat bastard and a Chinese samurai
There were quite a few dudes on the ship though. More than 6.
Yeah, I just assumed that we didn't see all of the people Asher brought back during the shitstorm.
Most of them got locked behind the gate and/or were standing nearby just out of our eyesight.
I would have been more satisfied if Asher came back by himself and had some quip about being a 1 man army
i thought that big ass guy was gonna do some rektness, probably just fucking eat someone, but he just got fucked so fast....
yes he was surrounded but cmon..
Speaking of armies, how in the name of anything did Wyman Manderly, the ruler of the largest city in the North and a known Stark loyalist let the fourth born son of an open Bolton ass-kisser just waltz into White Harbor with what seemed to be a large group of troops and slaughter people without so much as a bell ringing for the chaos in the streets?
The damn city watch could have probably snuffed them out.
That was actually only on Gryff's "20 good men" not the whole army
We didn't see anything in the fighting pits. How many full and unique character models were on screen at any given time? Probably not even as many as when the whitehills ambushed Ashers army of 7 plus Bershka. Also something you probably didn't notice, when the camera switched to a broader (overhead) angle in the pits, many character models disappeared. For a reason, no doubt.
10 barbarians is not an army lmfao, I was laughing so hard when Rodrik saw what "army" his brother brought.
Do not worry , we'll have our battle with hundreds of men crushing into each other , Don't how they'll manage but i do hope it won't be like walking dead with that big herd of walkers made in cartoon ,
SPOILERS AHEAD.
Let's take a look at that army....
We see these boarding the boat.
Along with these two who board whilst Asher and Malcolm talk.
I guess we're left to assume that more joined sometime after this? But the boat was leaving at the end of the scene, so I'm not sure how. There's a few new faces on the boat, however. I doubt every single member is above deck here.
This is the only time we really see the army in full, assuming that all of them left the boat together (because why would any stay behind?)
Also, a further shot, showing all of them from a distance. Hard to see them, but they're all there. Determinantly with Bloodsong.
Clearly there's not many. Doesn't help that a few get killed before the fight has really even begun.
Along with one of the best men they have....
With such small numbers, it seems that only a few remain by the end. Asher can even be killed, too. It's doubtful they'll listen to Rodrik, which can only worsen the matter.
So, yeah. Unless Telltale just kept the numbers small to avoid having to make many models, we're only left with a small army that likely could not take on the Whitehills alone. Could be that we're just meant to use our suspension of disbelief and just accept that there's more people in this army than the ones we see on-screen.
Mormonts don't even have an army. They just send their best swordsman to help Robb in the war, along with warriors from the noble house
That's something i hate about Ramsey. He is a little shit who wins only because he fights dirty and never faces his enemies in open combat. Ok, the series show him fighting, but those scenes are not even present in the books. Ramsay is literally an insane little cunt who couldn't do shit in a real fight, but somehow always wins because A) his allies are stronger than the opponent or
he lures the opponent into a trap and then skins him alive after his men defeated him