Could the St. John boys be brought back in Season 3?

If Lee didn't kill them off in Season 1, do you think they could be brought back, even for a "guest appearance?"

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  • So they can leech off more of the first season? No. They should just restart and make their own villains.

  • I wish :( but their determinant. Maybe an easter egg? Like a small hint that they were here at some point.

  • danny was caught by a bear trap with no release latch and andy was surrounded by walkers so sure i definitely don't see how they can't come back

  • edited August 2015

    I killed them both, so their cameo wouldn't affect to my game in any way.

    I consider St. Johns as villains of a single episode and I don't really see point of bringing them back (their story arc was completed). Only "villain" I would like to see again is Nate, but I'm perfectly fine if he never shows up again.

    In any case I hope that Season 3 will be something different with new protagonist and new set of characters. It could have few recurring characters from previous seasons, but hopefully not too many.

  • I don't see why Danny couldn't have gotten lucky, real lucky.

    Jewfreeus posted: »

    danny was caught by a bear trap with no release latch and andy was surrounded by walkers so sure i definitely don't see how they can't come back

  • Maybe not the St John's per day, but we did run away from the bandits...

    But Herschel is still on his farm...

  • Hershel and Glenn are dead. Hershel was killed by he governor and Glenn was killed by neagen, not gonna bring them back.

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    Maybe not the St John's per day, but we did run away from the bandits... But Herschel is still on his farm...

  • Lol are you connecting the comic book with the telltale games?

    Cause you shouldn't, everything would come crashing down if you did

    Hershel and Glenn are dead. Hershel was killed by he governor and Glenn was killed by neagen, not gonna bring them back.

  • Why? They're in the same Universe? Or is this sarcasm due to people thinking we'll see people like Darryl Dixon in the game

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    Lol are you connecting the comic book with the telltale games? Cause you shouldn't, everything would come crashing down if you did

  • What happened to your realism now eh?

    Anthorn posted: »

    I don't see why Danny couldn't have gotten lucky, real lucky.

  • Agreed. Comics are comics and games are games (the same goes with the TV show). No point connecting them.

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    Lol are you connecting the comic book with the telltale games? Cause you shouldn't, everything would come crashing down if you did

  • Sarcasm. I was being sarcastic. But it's still more plausible than someone surviving a zombie bite and being shot in the head.

    What happened to your realism now eh?

  • Its just my opinion I guess. From the start I thought the point was to create a constant (the zombie apocalypse) and then the game, show, and comic were three different versions. Mostly the game being different, and the show and comic being the similar ones.

    Also im a perfectionist and at this point you cant match up with the game world and the comic world.

    People complain how different the tv show is compared to the comic, and then there is the game. I thought the point of starting off as Lee Everett, a criminal and not a cop like Rick. I thought that Kirkman's intention was to create two separate worlds with the game and the comic/tv show.

    And if Darryl happens that would throw everything the hell off lmao

    Anthorn posted: »

    Why? They're in the same Universe? Or is this sarcasm due to people thinking we'll see people like Darryl Dixon in the game

  • I'm going to go with most likely not. Danny got caught in a bear trap, Andy got his face beaten into a pulp, Brenda was eaten by undead Mark. Even if you choose to spare the boys, they get their comeuppance in the form of becoming bait for the walkers storming the dairy. They were good villains, but I don't think they should be brought back.

  • edited August 2015

    Games happen in the comic book universe, so they follow the canon of the comics. But because games are expanded universe stuff, the comics doesn't need to take game's events into account. When Season 1 came out it was stated that Glenn, Hershel and Shawn are same as in the comics. And now they are making a DLC about Michonne which takes place between specific issues of the comics.

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    Lol are you connecting the comic book with the telltale games? Cause you shouldn't, everything would come crashing down if you did

  • The Michonne thing is specifically stated comic book content, or non-comic book content that they will make from the comic book universe.
    And I already didn't like Glenn, Herschel, and now Michonne being in the game.

    I say its better to reference the comic rather then connect to the comic-verse. Cause if that is the same Herschel Green who whatever weeks later, sheltered Ricks group with his son Shawn there beside him, then it doesn't match up.

    Now if this telltale Herschel was alone when Rick came along, and Glenn and Lily's character also had that change from being with Lee, then we got something nice.

    What id like to see, if the comics are referenced, is Rick and his group finding, idk Clem and AJ at the end of season 3, maybe Clem is robbing them. Then when they stick her up, not only do they see the kid but Michonne either recognizes Clem from her DLC experience or just doesn't kill her because of AJ, and when she is welcomed to the group, she can either run from the group or try to join them. Or maybe something more dramatic, but along those lines.

    Or Clem dies at the end of season 3, and Ricks group (Michonne) find AJ covered in walker guts.

    But see, Im reaching at this point

    Games happen in the comic book universe, so they follow the canon of the comics. But because games are expanded universe stuff, the comics d

  • Danny was caught in a bear trap and Andy was surrounded by walkers. So I highly doubt they will appear in S3.

  • They can´t be brought back, Danny is wounded (and probably trapped) and too slow to escape from the walkers, Brenda is definiteley dead - so there is Andy who might be alive - but just for the ones who haven´t finished him.
    It wouldn´t count for the people who killed him, so he can´t become an important part/ would have to be rplaced by another villian - so why don´t make a new villian at first when they have to even with Andy ?

  • edited August 2015

    From Season 1 FAQ:

    Is this game based on the comic books or the TV show?
    We see the comic books as canon.

    Will I see anything from the comic books or TV show in the game?
    Yes. You will meet some characters and visit locations seen in the comic books. You’ll learn about characters and events that have an impact on events seen in the comics. For example, how did Hershel’s son Shawn end up in the barn? Find out in the game.

    It is clearly stated that the games follow canon of the comics. And I think that all interaction between comic book characters and game characters must get Kirkman's approval, so that there is no conflict between the events of the game and events of the comics. Game's Lilly was originally supposed to be same as the comic book character, but Telltale had to make her a separate character, because Kirkman had other plans for Lilly Caul. So, only way we are going to see Clem joining to Rick's group is if Kirkman wants to introduce her into the comics as well.

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    The Michonne thing is specifically stated comic book content, or non-comic book content that they will make from the comic book universe.

  • edited August 2015

    Wait, that actually could mean what Im talking about. They show things from the comic, but that doesn't mean its the same timeline.

    (Chess reference): Check

    From Season 1 FAQ: Is this game based on the comic books or the TV show? We see the comic books as canon. Will I see anythin

  • I don't want them back. Why? They are the type of villains that are really good for 1 episode. And that's where it should stay at. They are 1 episode type villains.

  • edited August 2015

    Nah, Danny was trapped in an ALTERED bear trap and walkers broke into the dairy. No way he survived.

    Anthorn posted: »

    Sarcasm. I was being sarcastic. But it's still more plausible than someone surviving a zombie bite and being shot in the head.

  • edited August 2015

    From Season 2 FAQ:

    Do I need to have read The Walking Dead comic books to enjoy this game?
    No. Although they are set in the same universe and have some crossover points, they are each their own story and one is not required to enjoy or understand the other.

    This means that the game happens in the same timeline (although game portrays an expanded universe version of the official timeline). If comics and the game wouldn't happen in the same timeline then there wouldn't be crossover points. Besides if the game and comic didn't happen in the same timeline, then there wouldn't have been any reason to make game's Lilly a completely different character. They could have just done what the TV-series did with many characters and change her story and background to different than what it was in the comics and books.

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    Wait, that actually could mean what Im talking about. They show things from the comic, but that doesn't mean its the same timeline. (Chess reference): Check

  • Yeah... They are connected. That's why they have Shawn Green get killed in the game, and in the comic book he's a zombie locked up in the barn.

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    Lol are you connecting the comic book with the telltale games? Cause you shouldn't, everything would come crashing down if you did

  • They messed up if they made them in the same universe.....

    But ill still probably buy the game

    From Season 2 FAQ: Do I need to have read The Walking Dead comic books to enjoy this game? No. Although they are set in the same un

  • Is that why there is no Maggie Green either?

    Kennyftw posted: »

    Yeah... They are connected. That's why they have Shawn Green get killed in the game, and in the comic book he's a zombie locked up in the barn.

  • edited August 2015

    even if you leave them alive it doesn't make sense to bring them back. because it seems like they were trap and going to die anyway.

    you get Danny with his leg in animal trap with no release button (well that's strongly ironic, the boys work really come back to haunt them. deserves them right I say), the only way he could get out of there was to cut his leg off. As we have seen what happen the teacher at beginning of the episode, he would lose to much blood.

    Then you have Andy who beating by Lee on the hill, he might have appeared but only if he stops his breakdown. his crys to Lee to come back and face him like a man. his yells to the heavens would have bring the zombies right to him. remember the fence's power down and zombies were of powering the farm.

    it seems like they would most likely return as flash back/nightmare, more then return back in flesh and blood, that pun is not intended (shudders) oh boy the st john scear the daylights out of me. CREEPY (0_0)

  • The Walking Dead isn't unique case, because practically all Telltale games happen in the same universe as their source material. However there are two types of games: in some games you control the original heroes of the franchise (examples: Back to the Future and Wallace & Gromit) and in other games you control original characters, but the story happens in parallel with the events of the main canon (examples: Game of Throne and Jurassic Park)

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    They messed up if they made them in the same universe..... But ill still probably buy the game

  • Telltale probably only had a permission to use Hershel and Shawn.

    If we want to explain her absence, then we could argue that Lee didn't meet her, because he was on the farm only a small amount of time and Lee never went inside the house. We have no way of knowing if she was home or if she was somewhere else during that time which Lee stayed on the farm.

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    Is that why there is no Maggie Green either?

  • edited August 2015

    I doubt anyone liked the St Johns, yeah they were nice people at the start but they ate Mark and their farmhands, the mother wouldn't return in season 3 because we all know what happened and Danny got his leg jammed into that weapon and a whole bunch of walkers were near every direction but Lily ( even though I don't really like Lily) and Christa on the other hand can return in Season 3 and I hope they do.

  • Im more concerned about Maybelle than in those two, I think they both died even if Lee didn't kill them :0

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