I seem to be seeing some parallels with Arvo and the Adams soldier.
A decent enough character, who happened to be on the wrong side of the group in terms of ethics, ends up being captured and tortured by an anti-hero character, to the point where the trauma turns tem into a detestable individual who inexplicably attacks the anti-hero's associate rather than the person who did them wrong themselves.
I saw a lot of Kenny in Daniel as well. A man who'll do anything to protect his family, even if it means "crossing some lines." Lost his wife, too. I was pleasantly surprised he didn't start tearing the room apart when Liza told him his wife was dead.
I seem to be seeing some parallels with Arvo and the Adams soldier.
A decent enough character, who happened to be on the wrong side of th… moree group in terms of ethics, ends up being captured and tortured by an anti-hero character, to the point where the trauma turns tem into a detestable individual who inexplicably attacks the anti-hero's associate rather than the person who did them wrong themselves.
I saw a lot of Kenny in Daniel as well. A man who'll do anything to protect his family, even if it means "crossing some lines." Lost his wif… moree, too. I was pleasantly surprised he didn't start tearing the room apart when Liza told him his wife was dead.
i read your comment, that actually has some sense, if they become villains then that means that were not supposed to root for them, especially after they decided to free those walkers to kill all the soldiers in the military base just to save 3 people, one who was already dead, and another died as a direct result of said decision.
these people commited extremely selfish deeds, and is dificult to root for them, but if they become villains then that means the story can take a diferent direction and become more interesting.
even though i would like to start season 2 with a diferent set of characters a.k.a. better written.
i cant describe these characters as "heroes", not even anti-heroes, for me they are almost villains.
That would be interesting. What… more if, instead of these people acting as "heroes" or the "protagonists" of coming seasons (like Rick and his group have been for the most part), they become villains instead? And it turns out this whole spin-off series is a villain-origin story? I think that'd be a great twist.
While Daniel walking in front of a herd was badass in a comical fashion, it highlighted once again the problem this show has had and doesn't seem to be intent on fixing. The characters don't act like the apocalypse has just begun. Think about it. Daniel literally only has experience with one zombie, the one he shot in the face. But suddenly he not only knows the trick of leading zombies all to one spot to stage a distraction, but is confident enough to just walk at a leisurely pace in front of a herd? Yeah, I don't think so. Having a dark past doesn't equate to being knowledgeable about zombies that the world has never heard of before.
Andy shooting Ophelia was also pretty dumb. Someone mentioned that his situation was like Arvo, and I agree, right up to the point where he stupidly shoots a character purely because the plot says to, but at least Arvo had the mistaken assumption that Clem killed his sister, despite how stupid that was. Also love how Travis beating the guy up was more shocking to most of the group than Ophelia being shot. A gunshot wound of unknown severity, and everyone's like, "Well, that's a shame... Whoa, Travis! What are you doing, man?! Calm down!"
Similar to when they walk outside and see burned remains of human beings and only seem slightly perturbed. Hell, keep your eyes on Ophelia in that scene. She honestly couldn't care less for a good thirty seconds or so until she suddenly does, and if she saw her mother in those remains or something, they did not get that across well, nor does it seem likely that she'd able to tell at that point. Though I suppose it's possible that realization just kind of hit her or something. I'm not saying they all should have burst into tears or anything, but remember that they've been kept away from the carnage of the first few days. They've never seen something like this before, and most of them casually walk by with just a slight glance at the pile of human ruin.
Yes, most of these are little things, but it's the little things that make up the big picture. At the very least, the directing needs to be more on point when it comes to the characters. The cinematography and everything else is largely very good. Negative as I may sound, there were still a lot of good moments in this first season. There were some truly great shots here and there, the aftermath of Liza's death was handled very well, and the death of Daniel's wife (can't remember her name) in particular was one of the most haunting deaths of the series. More gravitas like that next season, please.
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I seem to be seeing some parallels with Arvo and the Adams soldier.
A decent enough character, who happened to be on the wrong side of the group in terms of ethics, ends up being captured and tortured by an anti-hero character, to the point where the trauma turns tem into a detestable individual who inexplicably attacks the anti-hero's associate rather than the person who did them wrong themselves.
I saw a lot of Kenny in Daniel as well. A man who'll do anything to protect his family, even if it means "crossing some lines." Lost his wife, too. I was pleasantly surprised he didn't start tearing the room apart when Liza told him his wife was dead.
I thought he'd kill
Liza right there.
i read your comment, that actually has some sense, if they become villains then that means that were not supposed to root for them, especially after they decided to free those walkers to kill all the soldiers in the military base just to save 3 people, one who was already dead, and another died as a direct result of said decision.
these people commited extremely selfish deeds, and is dificult to root for them, but if they become villains then that means the story can take a diferent direction and become more interesting.
even though i would like to start season 2 with a diferent set of characters a.k.a. better written.
Yeah, I thought he'd at least threaten her or something. :shrug:
While Daniel walking in front of a herd was badass in a comical fashion, it highlighted once again the problem this show has had and doesn't seem to be intent on fixing. The characters don't act like the apocalypse has just begun. Think about it. Daniel literally only has experience with one zombie, the one he shot in the face. But suddenly he not only knows the trick of leading zombies all to one spot to stage a distraction, but is confident enough to just walk at a leisurely pace in front of a herd? Yeah, I don't think so. Having a dark past doesn't equate to being knowledgeable about zombies that the world has never heard of before.
Andy shooting Ophelia was also pretty dumb. Someone mentioned that his situation was like Arvo, and I agree, right up to the point where he stupidly shoots a character purely because the plot says to, but at least Arvo had the mistaken assumption that Clem killed his sister, despite how stupid that was. Also love how Travis beating the guy up was more shocking to most of the group than Ophelia being shot. A gunshot wound of unknown severity, and everyone's like, "Well, that's a shame... Whoa, Travis! What are you doing, man?! Calm down!"
Similar to when they walk outside and see burned remains of human beings and only seem slightly perturbed. Hell, keep your eyes on Ophelia in that scene. She honestly couldn't care less for a good thirty seconds or so until she suddenly does, and if she saw her mother in those remains or something, they did not get that across well, nor does it seem likely that she'd able to tell at that point. Though I suppose it's possible that realization just kind of hit her or something. I'm not saying they all should have burst into tears or anything, but remember that they've been kept away from the carnage of the first few days. They've never seen something like this before, and most of them casually walk by with just a slight glance at the pile of human ruin.
Yes, most of these are little things, but it's the little things that make up the big picture. At the very least, the directing needs to be more on point when it comes to the characters. The cinematography and everything else is largely very good. Negative as I may sound, there were still a lot of good moments in this first season. There were some truly great shots here and there, the aftermath of Liza's death was handled very well, and the death of Daniel's wife (can't remember her name) in particular was one of the most haunting deaths of the series. More gravitas like that next season, please.