I know this because: When Clementine kicked in the door, and it's a bit out of dust being pushed back, they saw that the door is not strong … morebecause. I could have kicked it open, because she was a little girl, she had to kick a few times, I kicked one I opened it.
No one's saying she should stay like a normal 11 year old. She will be smarter than an 11 year old in our world. What's unrealistic is how smart she is compared to the adults. If anything, the apocalypse should've made the adults smarter as well as the children, but in this case, the apocalypse seemed to make the adults dumber.
No one's saying she should stay like a normal 11 year old. She will be smarter than an 11 year old in our world. What's unrealistic is how s… moremart she is compared to the adults. If anything, the apocalypse should've made the adults smarter as well as the children, but in this case, the apocalypse seemed to make the adults dumber.
It's hard for me to connect to Clementine because I'm not used to playing as children as much as adults. I liked Lee because of his strength and the weapons he used. Clementine used only hammers and pistols instead of an axe or shotgun. I liked Lee better then Clementine.
Well, I kinda enjoyed playing as Clem but Telltale made a child have some kind of adult power. I mean, we all saw how Clem stopped a herd of walkers in episode 2 where she and Nick were hold up there. I don't think a child has the power to stop a herd of walkers from entering a place. And in episode 4, Clem kicked down a door even though it was locked. I never seen a kid had that kind of strength which is unrealistic for a person of her age. And she even survived a gunshot which almost killed her. Okay, maybe an adult would've survived from that but not a child. How unrealistic...
Edit: Sorry if there are some typos and grammar mistakes from what I said. Typing on a phone is painful ;-;
I had to explain again ?! The door was locked, it was not strong, it was loose! It was a herd of walkers, these would total some 4 on the door, and many around. If Nick had not come in time, Clementine was not successful (Chapter 2), is survived by a miracle shot, she almost died, she was in a difficult situation and we did not see it. Because we were unconscious! Everything makes sense, Clementine strong 11 year old girl.
Well, I kinda enjoyed playing as Clem but Telltale made a child have some kind of adult power. I mean, we all saw how Clem stopped a herd of… more walkers in episode 2 where she and Nick were hold up there. I don't think a child has the power to stop a herd of walkers from entering a place. And in episode 4, Clem kicked down a door even though it was locked. I never seen a kid had that kind of strength which is unrealistic for a person of her age. And she even survived a gunshot which almost killed her. Okay, maybe an adult would've survived from that but not a child. How unrealistic...
Edit: Sorry if there are some typos and grammar mistakes from what I said. Typing on a phone is painful ;-;
Because majority of the tasks she was given to do was unrealistic for her age, for example; kicking a locked door down, being able to sew her own arm up (which I think is something which is unrealistic for anyone to do)
I don't think that age has got anything to do with it, I think, for some, the character being relatable (as in personality) is why they don't enjoy playing her.
I don't hate her, if anything I'd be bummed out if she died, but she's definitely not my favourite character.
Because majority of the tasks she was given to do was unrealistic for her age, for example; kicking a locked door down, being able to sew he… morer own arm up (which I think is something which is unrealistic for anyone to do)
I don't think that age has got anything to do with it, I think, for some, the character being relatable (as in personality) is why they don't enjoy playing her.
I don't hate her, if anything I'd be bummed out if she died, but she's definitely not my favourite character.
I feel like playing as Lee and then transitioning to Clem didn't help. Lee's role as leader and decision maker actually makes sense but when Clem leads and makes decisions for others, it just doesn't feel right. I love Clem but playing as Lee was a lot more entertaining and made more sense for me personally. I also prefer protecting Clem rather than her being Rambo and extremely non-eleven year oldish.
You simply can not understand! It was all a coincidence, she was a little girl, the creators of the game is not retarded, they know a girl her age could not do it
Anyways, I'd rather play as an adult. I would like Clem to have a support role rather than a main role in S3. The writing for Clem in S2 was just bad in most cases. I wouldn't mind playing as Vince from 400 days or maybe just a random adult survivor. It could still tie in to Clem's story; 1st episode you're on your way to a community and that community is what you chose in S2. Just as long as I'm not stuck playing as Clem the whole season. Or they can do a GoT style season with multiple protagonists, one of them being Clem so we can finish her story.
I had to explain again ?! The door was locked, it was not strong, it was loose! It was a herd of walkers, these would total some 4 on the do… moreor, and many around. If Nick had not come in time, Clementine was not successful (Chapter 2), is survived by a miracle shot, she almost died, she was in a difficult situation and we did not see it. Because we were unconscious! Everything makes sense, Clementine strong 11 year old girl.
On the subject of the door, why didn't they just have her use the hatchet on it? She still had the hatchet with her, and it'd make a hell of a lot more sense than kicking it in. It's a crappy wooden trailer door, the average claw hammer would be able to smash through it easily.
I'm sorry for the bad English. Mean they are not stupid, Clementine little girl and she can not break strong door. The door was not strong, but there is loose.
I dont really like clementines character either, more because she doesnt have much of one any more. In season 1 she made mistakes, she had flaws and felt ike an actual person in season 2 she has nothing. Heck Lee had some flaws and he was an adult, clementine seems to be able to do everything, even stuff she shouldnt be able to do (amputating limbs/knocking down doors etc)
I dont really like clementines character either, more because she doesnt have much of one any more. In season 1 she made mistakes, she had f… morelaws and felt ike an actual person in season 2 she has nothing. Heck Lee had some flaws and he was an adult, clementine seems to be able to do everything, even stuff she shouldnt be able to do (amputating limbs/knocking down doors etc)
No. The truth is the Clementine is boring and uninteresting. And that's why people dislike her. She has no flaws and made no mistakes. Adults relied on her and that's why it's unrealistic. She's boring. I actually don't hate Clementine, I like her. I'm just saying the truth.
Minority? I've seen a lot of people didn't like playing as Clem. And it's probably the majority. Even my friends didn't like playing as Clem though they enjoyed S2
But that's your opinion, not mine, and * most * people I met. They think that it is very appreciated character and strong. I admire her and respect her for her bravery. She heroine, because she did most of the tasks. Instead of complaining, you understand that it's fucking 11 year old girl, brave lives always between life and death.
It's the greatest character in any computer game or the rules of any game. I think it has flaws, she was a little girl and opaque and without emotion, someone had to help her open up and smile more, she does what she wants and thinks she's great and understanding, which is not true.
She too suspicious, scared a lot of things (that have traumatized a gun, for example), is not sociable, loves to be better with adults than with her peers, she pushed nosy and people's conversations, and a lot more. It is not perfect and who loves her really (like me) understand that there is much to like about it and what's not to like her character in general is very good.
No. The truth is the Clementine is boring and uninteresting. And that's why people dislike her. She has no flaws and made no mistakes. Adult… mores relied on her and that's why it's unrealistic. She's boring. I actually don't hate Clementine, I like her. I'm just saying the truth.
Minority? I've seen a lot of people didn't like playing as Clem. And it's probably the majority. Even my friends didn't like playing as Clem though they enjoyed S2
Wrong? After S2 was over, I asked every one of my friends what they didn't like in S2. And most of them said that Clem was one of the cons in S2 cause she's unrealistic. I've seen and in other websites that many people didn't enjoy playing as Clem.
And have you really seen the rest of the comments? Many people said in this thread that they didn't enjoy playing as Clem cause her character is unrealistic. She's too perfect, like Sam from Until Dawn.
But that's your opinion, not mine, and * most * people I met. They think that it is very appreciated character and strong. I admire her and respect her for her bravery. She heroine, because she did most of the tasks. Instead of complaining, you understand that it's fucking 11 year old girl, brave lives always between life and death.
It's the greatest character in any computer game or the rules of any game. I think it has flaws, she was a little girl and opaque and without emotion, someone had to help her open up and smile more, she does what she wants and thinks she's great and understanding, which is not true.
She too suspicious, scared a lot of things (that have traumatized a gun, for example), is not sociable, loves to be better with adults than with her peers, she pushed nosy and people's conversations, and a lot more. It is not perfect and who loves her really (like me) understand that there is much to like about it and what's not to like her character in general is very good.
Wrong? After S2 was over, I asked every one of my friends what they didn't like in S2. And most of them said that Clem was one of the cons i… moren S2 cause she's unrealistic. I've seen and in other websites that many people didn't enjoy playing as Clem.
And have you really seen the rest of the comments? Many people said in this thread that they didn't enjoy playing as Clem cause her character is unrealistic. She's too perfect, like Sam from Until Dawn.
On the subject of the door, why didn't they just have her use the hatchet on it? She still had the hatchet with her, and it'd make a hell of… more a lot more sense than kicking it in. It's a crappy wooden trailer door, the average claw hammer would be able to smash through it easily.
I feel like they made her into a bit of a superhero, that took me out of the moment. I understand where they were going when they decided on Clem being the protagonist, but I feel like it almost made them write themselves into a corner. How do you make a believable child competent in a zombie apocalypse, but also realistic? It ended up with a lot of scenarios where the adults were all scratching their heads and relying on a 10 year old girl to save the day. I didn't hate it, but I'd like to steer away from that in season 3.
I didn't mind at all. I'm use to playing games where the main character does everything anyway. It only adds character to Clementine. I would expect her to pitch in a great amount just like she did in S1. I also didn't find anything she did unreasonable, considering the comics are just as crazy with unrealistic stuff happening all the time. I'm sure TT realized the risk by putting her as the main character and knew some people would hate it. They do things differently and it pays off, people will just have to deal with it.
Her being suspicious and scared is emotion. She shows that. I never said she didn't. I said she was boring, which she is. And truth is, ALOT of people don't like her. Have you been here after season 2?
But that's your opinion, not mine, and * most * people I met. They think that it is very appreciated character and strong. I admire her and … morerespect her for her bravery. She heroine, because she did most of the tasks. Instead of complaining, you understand that it's fucking 11 year old girl, brave lives always between life and death.
It's the greatest character in any computer game or the rules of any game. I think it has flaws, she was a little girl and opaque and without emotion, someone had to help her open up and smile more, she does what she wants and thinks she's great and understanding, which is not true.
She too suspicious, scared a lot of things (that have traumatized a gun, for example), is not sociable, loves to be better with adults than with her peers, she pushed nosy and people's conversations, and a lot more. It is not perfect and who loves her really (like me) understand that there is much to like about it and what's not to like her character in general is very good.
Her being suspicious and scared is emotion. She shows that. I never said she didn't. I said she was boring, which she is. And truth is, ALOT of people don't like her. Have you been here after season 2?
It wouldn't be much animation work depending on how they do it. If you just hit the doorknob with the hatchet, all they have to do is make some chopped wood sprites and animate the knob falling out, and it would be good enough.
You telling everyone in the thread that it is realistic and that Clementine is a favorite to everyone doesn't change the fact that it's still unrealistic and that she's poorly written.
Literally everything she does, especially given that she's surrounded by adults that can very well do the same thing, is unrealistic for her age.
The fact that she probably has more zombie kills than any other character in the series (at least shown) is bad enough.
She might as well have transformed into a sailor scout.
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Of course the door would push back if something with great kinetic force hits it, it's not rocket science.
Don't even bother trying to argue back.
I did not understand. Do not you agree?
No one's saying she should stay like a normal 11 year old. She will be smarter than an 11 year old in our world. What's unrealistic is how smart she is compared to the adults. If anything, the apocalypse should've made the adults smarter as well as the children, but in this case, the apocalypse seemed to make the adults dumber.
yes ... Clementine is not the problem here, but adults.
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It's hard for me to connect to Clementine because I'm not used to playing as children as much as adults. I liked Lee because of his strength and the weapons he used. Clementine used only hammers and pistols instead of an axe or shotgun. I liked Lee better then Clementine.
YAH...
Well, I kinda enjoyed playing as Clem but Telltale made a child have some kind of adult power. I mean, we all saw how Clem stopped a herd of walkers in episode 2 where she and Nick were hold up there. I don't think a child has the power to stop a herd of walkers from entering a place. And in episode 4, Clem kicked down a door even though it was locked. I never seen a kid had that kind of strength which is unrealistic for a person of her age. And she even survived a gunshot which almost killed her. Okay, maybe an adult would've survived from that but not a child. How unrealistic...
Edit: Sorry if there are some typos and grammar mistakes from what I said. Typing on a phone is painful ;-;
I had to explain again ?! The door was locked, it was not strong, it was loose! It was a herd of walkers, these would total some 4 on the door, and many around. If Nick had not come in time, Clementine was not successful (Chapter 2), is survived by a miracle shot, she almost died, she was in a difficult situation and we did not see it. Because we were unconscious! Everything makes sense, Clementine strong 11 year old girl.
Because majority of the tasks she was given to do was unrealistic for her age, for example; kicking a locked door down, being able to sew her own arm up (which I think is something which is unrealistic for anyone to do)
I don't think that age has got anything to do with it, I think, for some, the character being relatable (as in personality) is why they don't enjoy playing her.
I don't hate her, if anything I'd be bummed out if she died, but she's definitely not my favourite character.
Is a favorite character for most people
I was talking about the people who don't care for her/hate her. Not majorty of the fandom.
I feel like playing as Lee and then transitioning to Clem didn't help. Lee's role as leader and decision maker actually makes sense but when Clem leads and makes decisions for others, it just doesn't feel right. I love Clem but playing as Lee was a lot more entertaining and made more sense for me personally. I also prefer protecting Clem rather than her being Rambo and extremely non-eleven year oldish.
Look, we have are opinions, and you have yours. You don't have to try to convince us to agree with you.
"The door was not strong enough" Lmao
Anyways, I'd rather play as an adult. I would like Clem to have a support role rather than a main role in S3. The writing for Clem in S2 was just bad in most cases. I wouldn't mind playing as Vince from 400 days or maybe just a random adult survivor. It could still tie in to Clem's story; 1st episode you're on your way to a community and that community is what you chose in S2. Just as long as I'm not stuck playing as Clem the whole season. Or they can do a GoT style season with multiple protagonists, one of them being Clem so we can finish her story.
Because I'm a guy, and will never be in a life or death situation trapped in a little girl's body.
It's not realistic. Your arguments are still invalid. People don't like her because she's perfect. I blame it on the writers.
People do not like it? Ha ha made me laugh. Is a favorite character I've ever seen! Most people like it too, you're in the minority.
Because it's unrealistic to have Clem do everything. She's 11 and people are starting to tell her to do most of the things.
On the subject of the door, why didn't they just have her use the hatchet on it? She still had the hatchet with her, and it'd make a hell of a lot more sense than kicking it in. It's a crappy wooden trailer door, the average claw hammer would be able to smash through it easily.
I dont really like clementines character either, more because she doesnt have much of one any more. In season 1 she made mistakes, she had flaws and felt ike an actual person in season 2 she has nothing. Heck Lee had some flaws and he was an adult, clementine seems to be able to do everything, even stuff she shouldnt be able to do (amputating limbs/knocking down doors etc)
she is amazing ...
Minority? Open up your eyes.
What? It's the truth. Clementine is a beloved figure to most fans of The Walking Dead.
No. The truth is the Clementine is boring and uninteresting. And that's why people dislike her. She has no flaws and made no mistakes. Adults relied on her and that's why it's unrealistic. She's boring. I actually don't hate Clementine, I like her. I'm just saying the truth.
Minority? I've seen a lot of people didn't like playing as Clem. And it's probably the majority. Even my friends didn't like playing as Clem though they enjoyed S2
But that's your opinion, not mine, and * most * people I met. They think that it is very appreciated character and strong. I admire her and respect her for her bravery. She heroine, because she did most of the tasks. Instead of complaining, you understand that it's fucking 11 year old girl, brave lives always between life and death.
It's the greatest character in any computer game or the rules of any game. I think it has flaws, she was a little girl and opaque and without emotion, someone had to help her open up and smile more, she does what she wants and thinks she's great and understanding, which is not true.
She too suspicious, scared a lot of things (that have traumatized a gun, for example), is not sociable, loves to be better with adults than with her peers, she pushed nosy and people's conversations, and a lot more. It is not perfect and who loves her really (like me) understand that there is much to like about it and what's not to like her character in general is very good.
You are wrong. Most people like the Clementine and it does not help what you say. You are in a minority, too bad.
Wrong? After S2 was over, I asked every one of my friends what they didn't like in S2. And most of them said that Clem was one of the cons in S2 cause she's unrealistic. I've seen and in other websites that many people didn't enjoy playing as Clem.
And have you really seen the rest of the comments? Many people said in this thread that they didn't enjoy playing as Clem cause her character is unrealistic. She's too perfect, like Sam from Until Dawn.
But that's your opinion, not mine, and * most * people I met. They think that it is very appreciated character and strong. I admire her and respect her for her bravery. She heroine, because she did most of the tasks. Instead of complaining, you understand that it's fucking 11 year old girl, brave lives always between life and death.
It's the greatest character in any computer game or the rules of any game. I think it has flaws, she was a little girl and opaque and without emotion, someone had to help her open up and smile more, she does what she wants and thinks she's great and understanding, which is not true.
She too suspicious, scared a lot of things (that have traumatized a gun, for example), is not sociable, loves to be better with adults than with her peers, she pushed nosy and people's conversations, and a lot more. It is not perfect and who loves her really (like me) understand that there is much to like about it and what's not to like her character in general is very good.
Exactly. Maybe too much animation work? Kicking animation could be easier to do. Y'know how TT like to cut corners sometimes.
I feel like they made her into a bit of a superhero, that took me out of the moment. I understand where they were going when they decided on Clem being the protagonist, but I feel like it almost made them write themselves into a corner. How do you make a believable child competent in a zombie apocalypse, but also realistic? It ended up with a lot of scenarios where the adults were all scratching their heads and relying on a 10 year old girl to save the day. I didn't hate it, but I'd like to steer away from that in season 3.
I didn't mind at all. I'm use to playing games where the main character does everything anyway. It only adds character to Clementine. I would expect her to pitch in a great amount just like she did in S1. I also didn't find anything she did unreasonable, considering the comics are just as crazy with unrealistic stuff happening all the time. I'm sure TT realized the risk by putting her as the main character and knew some people would hate it. They do things differently and it pays off, people will just have to deal with it.
Her being suspicious and scared is emotion. She shows that. I never said she didn't. I said she was boring, which she is. And truth is, ALOT of people don't like her. Have you been here after season 2?
I hope that gives you a hint xD
It wouldn't be much animation work depending on how they do it. If you just hit the doorknob with the hatchet, all they have to do is make some chopped wood sprites and animate the knob falling out, and it would be good enough.
You telling everyone in the thread that it is realistic and that Clementine is a favorite to everyone doesn't change the fact that it's still unrealistic and that she's poorly written.
Literally everything she does, especially given that she's surrounded by adults that can very well do the same thing, is unrealistic for her age.
The fact that she probably has more zombie kills than any other character in the series (at least shown) is bad enough.
She might as well have transformed into a sailor scout.
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That insult was unecessary. And I never insulted you in the first place. Wow...
That was a jerky move, insulting someone that never insulted you.