It's just that im not a native english speaker so maybe I didn't write my idea correctly, I know both characters have made mistakes, and I also agree with you, Kenny has made more mistakes but I kinda found what Jane did worse than what Kenny has done so far :l This is what I like about TWD, we all have different points of view, its what makes this really intersting. And yeah I kinda killed Kenny the first time because I was "scared" but then I realized even if he was like crazy he was somehow right, I mean if I were him I would have done the same or worse, it's a baby and he was worried about him, but yeah neither of them were right they could have talked but none of them wanted to, in my opinion both of them were ready to die. But they knew what they were doing thats why I think those events are not related, but your point of view is intersting, actually im glad I can share opinions with someone nice, nowadays if you like Kenny you are the worst lol, but im glad you respect others people points of view.
But you did say it as if it were fact. And in a literal sense, yes, the scenario is different, but it's arguing semantics. Hungry or not, bl… moreoodlust or not, the dog was a wild animal; and yes, you are right, Jane didn't think it through either, so it can apply to her too.
I will say my piece. There was no right answer, as I've said. I did not side with Kenny, because Jane is younger than Kenny, and even after just meeting her, she changes immensely. She's not so set in her ways, and the thing is, with the A.J. thing, it seemed like one mistake, whereas Kenny had made millions of mistakes prior, as an effect of his erratic behavior. It was not right of her to prove a point that way, but my first reaction was not "See, now I have to murder you." like Kenny's was, mine was of confusion, and grief, and wanting to have an answer, before deciding what to do with her. It's not about who was right or wrong, it was about whether you as the player wer… [view original content]
I accept your compliment, and sincerely thank you.
A lot of the people who are fans of Kenny relate to him deeply, and so whenever somebody criticizes him, it's no wonder that a lot of people take it personally. I don't think that's inherently bad, but I do wish people would be more realistic about the things he does and has done.
Besides, I like him too.
It's just that im not a native english speaker so maybe I didn't write my idea correctly, I know both characters have made mistakes, and I a… morelso agree with you, Kenny has made more mistakes but I kinda found what Jane did worse than what Kenny has done so far :l This is what I like about TWD, we all have different points of view, its what makes this really intersting. And yeah I kinda killed Kenny the first time because I was "scared" but then I realized even if he was like crazy he was somehow right, I mean if I were him I would have done the same or worse, it's a baby and he was worried about him, but yeah neither of them were right they could have talked but none of them wanted to, in my opinion both of them were ready to die. But they knew what they were doing thats why I think those events are not related, but your point of view is intersting, actually im glad I can share opinions with someone nice, nowadays if you like Kenny you are the worst lol, but im glad you respect others people points of view.
The main problem with your logic is that Kenny doesn't have to be put down, and many people choose to let Jane die. IF Kenny had to die, then I could agree with you. But he doesn't so it doesn't match up. I could just as easily say that the dog appeared fine, and then became a threat. This could just as easily match up with Jane who appeared to set Kenny up so she could kill him.
No problem ^^ yeah I get it, Kenny has a lot of issues like many other characters but well lets face it, their world went to hell so they do not know anymore whats wrong or right the only important thing is survival, yes many Kenny fans, Lilly fans, or any other character fans can take it really personal :l thats why I kinda stay away from Kenny discussions lol.
I accept your compliment, and sincerely thank you.
A lot of the people who are fans of Kenny relate to him deeply, and so whenever somebo… moredy criticizes him, it's no wonder that a lot of people take it personally. I don't think that's inherently bad, but I do wish people would be more realistic about the things he does and has done.
Besides, I like him too.
Basically you are saying you could compare yourself with a dog when you get angry right? Chew on that.
No, I'm not. You (and some others on this thread it seems) are misunderstanding almost everything I'm saying. You are the one who assumed that I, and everyone else in the world, would act the same as Kenny had done in the situation when frankly, that's just not true. Even if I was angry, even if I was upset, even if I had lost all of my loved ones, even if i was in my wildest stages of grief and anger, I would've at least still asked Jane what was going on and what had actually happened to AJ before outright trying to murder her. What's the point of causing even more grief and death in this world, without even getting your facts straight? Not everyone would react the same as you would; not everyone would react like Kenny did; not everyone agrees with you. If there was concrete evidence that Jane had indeed killed AJ, if Clem or Kenny had actually seen the act of Jane killing AJ go down, I can understand people wanting to kill her, and I'm not sure what I'd do to Jane myself in that situation. But as it went down in the game, there was zero evidence that she'd killed AJ. Absolutely nothing. Kenny reacted to the situation, with zero evidence, without thinking.
in fact he would have been a monster by not going crazy on Jane
So he would've been a monster by not being a murderer? Do you see how you're contradicting yourself?
Both events have nothing to do one with another, Lee lost his temper many times just like Sam did, Lilly did too, are they also related?
I've already indicated below how Sam and Kenny were related in many many more ways than one, in my reply to RichWalk. If you don't feel the same, that's your business, but frankly I think you're missing out on some good storytelling here, by denying there's any similarity between Kenny and Sam at all. Double meanings in stories add an extra layer of richness to the plot, and frankly that's my favorite part of storytelling.
(yeah I dont like her but that doesnt mean im going to realese my hate for her with this kind of "theory")
I don't really see how this is such a hateful theory. As I said, it's an analogy of what Kenny has actually done. If you're a true fan of him, you can't ignore the awful things that Kenny has actually done. Frankly, you have to come to terms with that.
If on the other hand, you realize that Kenny had done awful things, if you realize that Kenny was indeed going to murder Jane and he was not right to do so, and if after realizing these things you forgive him, then that I can accept.
Be sympathetic.
I've been sympathetic with Kenny since season 1, and for all of season 2. I had given him a million and a half chances, and he messed up every single time, no matter what. I'm done being sympathetic with Kenny. Kenny vs. Jane was the last straw for me. He was about to murder someone, and since I had the choice, I chose to stop him. He's finally gone in my play through, and I'm thankful. If I could've just gotten him away from me without having to kill him and without having to have anyone die, I would've opted for that preferably, but this was how it went down for me instead, so it is what it is.
Basically you are saying you could compare yourself with a dog when you get angry right? Chew on that. And seriously I didn't mean to be rud… moree or anything with my opinion so don't be sarcastic just say whatever you need to say. Both events have nothing to do one with another, Lee lost his temper many times just like Sam did, Lilly did too, are they also related? No and we all know why, but whatever im not putting more branches to the fire. Be sympathetic.
The main problem with your logic is that Kenny doesn't have to be put down, and many people choose to let Jane die. IF Kenny had to die, th… moreen I could agree with you. But he doesn't so it doesn't match up. I could just as easily say that the dog appeared fine, and then became a threat. This could just as easily match up with Jane who appeared to set Kenny up so she could kill him.
You must be one of those people who support death penalty and vigilante justice.
And you say this...Hmm, seems like you're a bit of a hypocrite there, you're the one supporting the execution of a man from two people with no authority both supporting the death penalty and vigilante justice.
Kenny doesn't have to be put down
Is what he says but you say
You must be one of those people who support death penalty and vi… moregilante justice.
And you say this...Hmm, seems like you're a bit of a hypocrite there, you're the one supporting the execution of a man from two people with no authority both supporting the death penalty and vigilante justice.
So did you not read anything i said or are you having trouble understanding?
If you are implying that me saying Kenny deserves to be put down, makes me hypocritical, then you are wrong. Sure, even world after za would be better place if he was killed, but i'd rather just make him walk away and never see him again. You see, some people have this thing called self control. If i lacked this, i'd be killing campers from battlefield 4 irl.
Of course. Split-second honesty or dishonesty can mean the difference between life and death. There is no consistent answer which will guarantee survival and peace for everyone, at least not in a zombie apocalypse.
No problem ^^ yeah I get it, Kenny has a lot of issues like many other characters but well lets face it, their world went to hell so they do… more not know anymore whats wrong or right the only important thing is survival, yes many Kenny fans, Lilly fans, or any other character fans can take it really personal :l thats why I kinda stay away from Kenny discussions lol.
Bravo. claps That is a very good set of points, and I like how you prefaced this with the functional application of an analogy, in that the parallels are usually metaphysical, rather than bluntly literal, though sometimes there are exceptions.
Kenny is a character: an illustration of a person, just like everyone else in the game. To not criticize him or analyze his actions and his motivations beyond the positive is to not do his character justice. It's dishonest, and not fair to him or the writers.
It's a device to tell a story. It's an analogy, and analogies aren't literal. (I don't know why you guys are implying that an analogy has to… more be literal for it to make sense, because that's not how they work....) But here are the parallels between Kenny and Sam. I thought of a suprisingly large number of them, once I sat down and thought about it:
* In the final fight, Kenny just saw red, as he admits himself. He lost all manner of thought and reacted simply on instinct without even thinking about the situation. Just as Sam reacts on instinct, out of hunger. Both attack viciously, like animals.
* Both the dog and Kenny had to be lethally injured in order for them to stop their attack.
* Something was taken away from both Kenny and Sam to instigate their anger. For Kenny, AJ was taken away. For Sam, the food was taken away.
* Both these things taken away were things necessary for their survival, in a way. Kenny attacked because the last… [view original content]
And I absolutely agree with you. Personally I love analysis, and the fact that the writers put a double meaning like this into this game is pretty awesome in my book.
Bravo. claps That is a very good set of points, and I like how you prefaced this with the functional application of an analogy, in that the … moreparallels are usually metaphysical, rather than bluntly literal, though sometimes there are exceptions.
Kenny is a character: an illustration of a person, just like everyone else in the game. To not criticize him or analyze his actions and his motivations beyond the positive is to not do his character justice. It's dishonest, and not fair to him or the writers.
Quite. It gives purpose, and it's a very intuitive way to convey multifaceted messages. Analysis and practicing comprehension with cryptic forms of media and fiction are probably the only reason I watch movies when I do, read books when I feel, or play games that I want to.
Why, thank you. bows lol.
And I absolutely agree with you. Personally I love analysis, and the fact that the writers put a double meaning like this into this game is pretty awesome in my book.
Kenny had become a rabid dog and the only moral choice is to put Kenny down after stopping him from attempting to murder an innocent than to leave with Jane as Clementine is not equipped to raise a baby by herself.
Seems like it, you are trying to dodge that you said "You must believe in the death penalty and vigilante justice" to a guy who said Kenny didn't deserve to be put down, however you opt for executing Kenny by two people with no authority which is supporting the death penalty and vigilante justice. Stop trying to start arguments with everyone and read what you write because your arguments are falling apart.
So did you not read anything i said or are you having trouble understanding?
If you are implying that me saying Kenny deserves to be put … moredown, makes me hypocritical, then you are wrong. Sure, even world after za would be better place if he was killed, but i'd rather just make him walk away and never see him again. You see, some people have this thing called self control. If i lacked this, i'd be killing campers from battlefield 4 irl.
Seems like people still have reading comprehension problems in this site.
Is it vigilante justice to kill someone as self-defense? no.
Is it vigilante justice to decide to kill someone based on assumption and nothing else? Yes.
"Kenny doesn't have to be put down" doesnt that clearly state that if his opinion was negative about Kenny, he thought Kenny should be killed like the dog in ep1?
If you still cant understand what you read, dont bother to reply.
ps. Even a year ago, i was in favor of leaving/sending Kenny away instead of killing him.
Are you attemptting to hide behind your opinion?
Seems like it, you are trying to dodge that you said "You must believe in the death pena… morelty and vigilante justice" to a guy who said Kenny didn't deserve to be put down, however you opt for executing Kenny by two people with no authority which is supporting the death penalty and vigilante justice. Stop trying to start arguments with everyone and read what you write because your arguments are falling apart.
Seems like people still have reading comprehension problems in this site
You still fit here then.
Is it vigilante justice to kill someone in self defense? No but Clem wasn't killing to protect herself now was she?
Listen Zyke, you're trying to ignore your hypocrisy. If you still want to start an argument over this when I don't care and was just pointing out your obvious mistake then don't, find something productive to do with your time, trying to argue with me over things no one cares about anymore isn't productive, thanks.
Seems like people still have reading comprehension problems in this site.
Is it vigilante justice to kill someone as self-defense? no.
… more Is it vigilante justice to decide to kill someone based on assumption and nothing else? Yes.
"Kenny doesn't have to be put down" doesnt that clearly state that if his opinion was negative about Kenny, he thought Kenny should be killed like the dog in ep1?
If you still cant understand what you read, dont bother to reply.
ps. Even a year ago, i was in favor of leaving/sending Kenny away instead of killing him.
Then how come you are the only one showing signs of not understanding anything?
No but Clem wasn't killing to protect herself now was she?
So if someone tries to kill my friend and hurts me, its not self-defense to shoot him to prevent him from killing my friend? You do realize that most countries have agreed that you can repel violence with violence in order to save yourself or someone else?
Listen Zyke, you're trying to ignore your hypocrisy
What hypocrisy? Only thing i see is your failure to understand anything that has been said on this thread. You didnt even answer any of my explanations on this matter which i hoped to make things more simpler for you to understand.
Hiding behind your ignorance isnt very effective way to convince someone.
Seems like people still have reading comprehension problems in this site
You still fit here then.
Is it vigilante justice to kill… more someone in self defense? No but Clem wasn't killing to protect herself now was she?
Listen Zyke, you're trying to ignore your hypocrisy. If you still want to start an argument over this when I don't care and was just pointing out your obvious mistake then don't, find something productive to do with your time, trying to argue with me over things no one cares about anymore isn't productive, thanks.
I am gonna make it short, I agree with you in some things but I gotta say, this is ZA, like Chuck said, you live or die (not the exact words but pretty much it) yeah we all know he has done some things wrong, but, he risked himself for Ben, he gave Lee a chance to save Clem, he fixed the RV, he also saved Lee back in the drugstore, why can't people only think in the bad things a character did? So now you are in this situation when someone you barely know comes and say, Hey Kenny I lost AJ, I dunoo where he is, I know you were fond of him but yeah I lost it. Imagine thats your son would you be:
A) Oh it's Jane I barely know you but im not gonna be mad, lets be friends.
You get sad, and angry, and mad.
I think B is the right answer, its ZA theres no laws anymore, what we knew its over, its gone, yeah I know B is wrong but it is the most logical thing to do, sadly they started to fight to death, yeah I disagree with that even if I didn't like Jane for what she did with AJ I didn't want her to die, but it was She or Kenny and none of us would have let the other person kill us you know what I mean? i know what you mean when you say it was wrong, I know it was, but in that situation It was the most normal thing to happen, I also agree with you with tha bad things he is done but he has done good stuff too like any other characters, Lilly for example, she kept the group safe, Ben he indirectly saved the group from the bandits, why? Because the bandits couldnhave attacked at any moment and without warning and there are more character but well I dont want to make it longer, so yeah Im not blind I can see the wrong too what Im just saying is I dont see a conection between the events, analogy or not the events are triggered by totally different things, food and the thought AJ is dead.
Basically you are saying you could compare yourself with a dog when you get angry right? Chew on that.
No, I'm not. You (and some ot… morehers on this thread it seems) are misunderstanding almost everything I'm saying. You are the one who assumed that I, and everyone else in the world, would act the same as Kenny had done in the situation when frankly, that's just not true. Even if I was angry, even if I was upset, even if I had lost all of my loved ones, even if i was in my wildest stages of grief and anger, I would've at least still asked Jane what was going on and what had actually happened to AJ before outright trying to murder her. What's the point of causing even more grief and death in this world, without even getting your facts straight? Not everyone would react the same as you would; not everyone would react like Kenny did; not everyone agrees with you. If there was concrete evidence that Jane had indeed killed AJ, if Clem or Kenny… [view original content]
Still wasting your time I see. Complains about someone else when you contradict yourself and keep trying to start an argument. You can keep wasting your time but I'll pass, you're not worth my time any longer. Have fun.
You still fit here then.
Then how come you are the only one showing signs of not understanding anything?
No but Clem wasn't ki… morelling to protect herself now was she?
So if someone tries to kill my friend and hurts me, its not self-defense to shoot him to prevent him from killing my friend? You do realize that most countries have agreed that you can repel violence with violence in order to save yourself or someone else?
Listen Zyke, you're trying to ignore your hypocrisy
What hypocrisy? Only thing i see is your failure to understand anything that has been said on this thread. You didnt even answer any of my explanations on this matter which i hoped to make things more simpler for you to understand.
Hiding behind your ignorance isnt very effective way to convince someone.
Yeah anything can change at any moment, some are lucky some are not, Alexandria for example, they lived years being safe like nothing happened, while Rick and his group, Clem and her group had to do monstruous things survive, why because its pretty much or get killed now. We all know that this is wrong but it means you live another day.
Of course. Split-second honesty or dishonesty can mean the difference between life and death. There is no consistent answer which will guarantee survival and peace for everyone, at least not in a zombie apocalypse.
Let me decide whats waste of time for me and whats not.
I see you continue to appeal to ignorance, or you are just trolling, since ive pointed out how you are wrong, so i guess things really havent changed around here.
Still wasting your time I see. Complains about someone else when you contradict yourself and keep trying to start an argument. You can keep wasting your time but I'll pass, you're not worth my time any longer. Have fun.
That depends completely on your own priorities. If your goal is to survive, then leaving a baby to die is rational. Some even might keep the baby just so they could use it as distraction for zombies.
Not really the same situation. The dog attacked Clem and then got fatally injured. Where as Kenny was fighting with Jane and was absolutely no threat to Clem. In fact he's the opposite as he actually gets her to "potentially" one of the safest places she can be.
It's a device to tell a story. It's an analogy, and analogies aren't literal. (I don't know why you guys are implying that an analogy has to… more be literal for it to make sense, because that's not how they work....) But here are the parallels between Kenny and Sam. I thought of a suprisingly large number of them, once I sat down and thought about it:
* In the final fight, Kenny just saw red, as he admits himself. He lost all manner of thought and reacted simply on instinct without even thinking about the situation. Just as Sam reacts on instinct, out of hunger. Both attack viciously, like animals.
* Both the dog and Kenny had to be lethally injured in order for them to stop their attack.
* Something was taken away from both Kenny and Sam to instigate their anger. For Kenny, AJ was taken away. For Sam, the food was taken away.
* Both these things taken away were things necessary for their survival, in a way. Kenny attacked because the last… [view original content]
Me either, it's called Reaching. It has nothing to do with Kenny. Kenny was manipulated by a woman to fight. Clementine was manipulated by a woman to shoot her "friend." Kenny wasn't rabid. He was provoked by Jane to fight. That is what happened.
Let me decide whats waste of time for me and whats not.
I see you continue to appeal to ignorance, or you are just trolling, since ive pointed out how you are wrong, so i guess things really havent changed around here.
The dog had nothing to do with Kenny, your link of the two is redundant. The dog served as a plot device to tug at our heart strings. After all who would really enjoy killing a dog? It's the harshness of the life the characters have had to endure
The dog had nothing to do with Kenny, your link of the two is redundant. The dog served as a plot device to tug at our heart strings. After all who would really enjoy killing a dog? It's the harshness of the life the characters have had to endure
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It's just that im not a native english speaker so maybe I didn't write my idea correctly, I know both characters have made mistakes, and I also agree with you, Kenny has made more mistakes but I kinda found what Jane did worse than what Kenny has done so far :l This is what I like about TWD, we all have different points of view, its what makes this really intersting. And yeah I kinda killed Kenny the first time because I was "scared" but then I realized even if he was like crazy he was somehow right, I mean if I were him I would have done the same or worse, it's a baby and he was worried about him, but yeah neither of them were right they could have talked but none of them wanted to, in my opinion both of them were ready to die. But they knew what they were doing thats why I think those events are not related, but your point of view is intersting, actually im glad I can share opinions with someone nice, nowadays if you like Kenny you are the worst lol, but im glad you respect others people points of view.
I can see where you're coming from, but I honestly think that's entirely coincidental.
I accept your compliment, and sincerely thank you.
A lot of the people who are fans of Kenny relate to him deeply, and so whenever somebody criticizes him, it's no wonder that a lot of people take it personally. I don't think that's inherently bad, but I do wish people would be more realistic about the things he does and has done.
Besides, I like him too.
The main problem with your logic is that Kenny doesn't have to be put down, and many people choose to let Jane die. IF Kenny had to die, then I could agree with you. But he doesn't so it doesn't match up. I could just as easily say that the dog appeared fine, and then became a threat. This could just as easily match up with Jane who appeared to set Kenny up so she could kill him.
No problem ^^ yeah I get it, Kenny has a lot of issues like many other characters but well lets face it, their world went to hell so they do not know anymore whats wrong or right the only important thing is survival, yes many Kenny fans, Lilly fans, or any other character fans can take it really personal :l thats why I kinda stay away from Kenny discussions lol.
No, I'm not. You (and some others on this thread it seems) are misunderstanding almost everything I'm saying. You are the one who assumed that I, and everyone else in the world, would act the same as Kenny had done in the situation when frankly, that's just not true. Even if I was angry, even if I was upset, even if I had lost all of my loved ones, even if i was in my wildest stages of grief and anger, I would've at least still asked Jane what was going on and what had actually happened to AJ before outright trying to murder her. What's the point of causing even more grief and death in this world, without even getting your facts straight? Not everyone would react the same as you would; not everyone would react like Kenny did; not everyone agrees with you. If there was concrete evidence that Jane had indeed killed AJ, if Clem or Kenny had actually seen the act of Jane killing AJ go down, I can understand people wanting to kill her, and I'm not sure what I'd do to Jane myself in that situation. But as it went down in the game, there was zero evidence that she'd killed AJ. Absolutely nothing. Kenny reacted to the situation, with zero evidence, without thinking.
So he would've been a monster by not being a murderer? Do you see how you're contradicting yourself?
I've already indicated below how Sam and Kenny were related in many many more ways than one, in my reply to RichWalk. If you don't feel the same, that's your business, but frankly I think you're missing out on some good storytelling here, by denying there's any similarity between Kenny and Sam at all. Double meanings in stories add an extra layer of richness to the plot, and frankly that's my favorite part of storytelling.
I don't really see how this is such a hateful theory. As I said, it's an analogy of what Kenny has actually done. If you're a true fan of him, you can't ignore the awful things that Kenny has actually done. Frankly, you have to come to terms with that.
If on the other hand, you realize that Kenny had done awful things, if you realize that Kenny was indeed going to murder Jane and he was not right to do so, and if after realizing these things you forgive him, then that I can accept.
I've been sympathetic with Kenny since season 1, and for all of season 2. I had given him a million and a half chances, and he messed up every single time, no matter what. I'm done being sympathetic with Kenny. Kenny vs. Jane was the last straw for me. He was about to murder someone, and since I had the choice, I chose to stop him. He's finally gone in my play through, and I'm thankful. If I could've just gotten him away from me without having to kill him and without having to have anyone die, I would've opted for that preferably, but this was how it went down for me instead, so it is what it is.
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Is what he says but you say
And you say this...Hmm, seems like you're a bit of a hypocrite there, you're the one supporting the execution of a man from two people with no authority both supporting the death penalty and vigilante justice.
Well ofc he doesnt think Kenny should be put down (death penalty) because he doesnt see anything wrong with Kennys actions.
So you recognize the hypocrisy in your statement?
So did you not read anything i said or are you having trouble understanding?
If you are implying that me saying Kenny deserves to be put down, makes me hypocritical, then you are wrong. Sure, even world after za would be better place if he was killed, but i'd rather just make him walk away and never see him again. You see, some people have this thing called self control. If i lacked this, i'd be killing campers from battlefield 4 irl.
Of course. Split-second honesty or dishonesty can mean the difference between life and death. There is no consistent answer which will guarantee survival and peace for everyone, at least not in a zombie apocalypse.
Bravo. claps That is a very good set of points, and I like how you prefaced this with the functional application of an analogy, in that the parallels are usually metaphysical, rather than bluntly literal, though sometimes there are exceptions.
Kenny is a character: an illustration of a person, just like everyone else in the game. To not criticize him or analyze his actions and his motivations beyond the positive is to not do his character justice. It's dishonest, and not fair to him or the writers.
Why, thank you.
bows lol.
And I absolutely agree with you. Personally I love analysis, and the fact that the writers put a double meaning like this into this game is pretty awesome in my book.
Quite. It gives purpose, and it's a very intuitive way to convey multifaceted messages. Analysis and practicing comprehension with cryptic forms of media and fiction are probably the only reason I watch movies when I do, read books when I feel, or play games that I want to.
You are very welcome.
Indeed.
Kenny had become a rabid dog and the only moral choice is to put Kenny down after stopping him from attempting to murder an innocent than to leave with Jane as Clementine is not equipped to raise a baby by herself.
Are you attemptting to hide behind your opinion?
Seems like it, you are trying to dodge that you said "You must believe in the death penalty and vigilante justice" to a guy who said Kenny didn't deserve to be put down, however you opt for executing Kenny by two people with no authority which is supporting the death penalty and vigilante justice. Stop trying to start arguments with everyone and read what you write because your arguments are falling apart.
Seems like people still have reading comprehension problems in this site.
Is it vigilante justice to kill someone as self-defense? no.
Is it vigilante justice to decide to kill someone based on assumption and nothing else? Yes.
"Kenny doesn't have to be put down" doesnt that clearly state that if his opinion was negative about Kenny, he thought Kenny should be killed like the dog in ep1?
If you still cant understand what you read, dont bother to reply.
ps. Even a year ago, i was in favor of leaving/sending Kenny away instead of killing him.
You still fit here then.
Is it vigilante justice to kill someone in self defense? No but Clem wasn't killing to protect herself now was she?
Listen Zyke, you're trying to ignore your hypocrisy. If you still want to start an argument over this when I don't care and was just pointing out your obvious mistake then don't, find something productive to do with your time, trying to argue with me over things no one cares about anymore isn't productive, thanks.
Then how come you are the only one showing signs of not understanding anything?
So if someone tries to kill my friend and hurts me, its not self-defense to shoot him to prevent him from killing my friend? You do realize that most countries have agreed that you can repel violence with violence in order to save yourself or someone else?
What hypocrisy? Only thing i see is your failure to understand anything that has been said on this thread. You didnt even answer any of my explanations on this matter which i hoped to make things more simpler for you to understand.
Hiding behind your ignorance isnt very effective way to convince someone.
I am gonna make it short, I agree with you in some things but I gotta say, this is ZA, like Chuck said, you live or die (not the exact words but pretty much it) yeah we all know he has done some things wrong, but, he risked himself for Ben, he gave Lee a chance to save Clem, he fixed the RV, he also saved Lee back in the drugstore, why can't people only think in the bad things a character did? So now you are in this situation when someone you barely know comes and say, Hey Kenny I lost AJ, I dunoo where he is, I know you were fond of him but yeah I lost it. Imagine thats your son would you be:
I think B is the right answer, its ZA theres no laws anymore, what we knew its over, its gone, yeah I know B is wrong but it is the most logical thing to do, sadly they started to fight to death, yeah I disagree with that even if I didn't like Jane for what she did with AJ I didn't want her to die, but it was She or Kenny and none of us would have let the other person kill us you know what I mean? i know what you mean when you say it was wrong, I know it was, but in that situation It was the most normal thing to happen, I also agree with you with tha bad things he is done but he has done good stuff too like any other characters, Lilly for example, she kept the group safe, Ben he indirectly saved the group from the bandits, why? Because the bandits couldnhave attacked at any moment and without warning and there are more character but well I dont want to make it longer, so yeah Im not blind I can see the wrong too what Im just saying is I dont see a conection between the events, analogy or not the events are triggered by totally different things, food and the thought AJ is dead.
Still wasting your time I see. Complains about someone else when you contradict yourself and keep trying to start an argument. You can keep wasting your time but I'll pass, you're not worth my time any longer. Have fun.
Yeah anything can change at any moment, some are lucky some are not, Alexandria for example, they lived years being safe like nothing happened, while Rick and his group, Clem and her group had to do monstruous things survive, why because its pretty much or get killed now. We all know that this is wrong but it means you live another day.
Let me decide whats waste of time for me and whats not.
I see you continue to appeal to ignorance, or you are just trolling, since ive pointed out how you are wrong, so i guess things really havent changed around here.
You think that leaving a baby to die is rational. Most would consider you a sick person to do that.
That depends completely on your own priorities. If your goal is to survive, then leaving a baby to die is rational. Some even might keep the baby just so they could use it as distraction for zombies.
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Don't mind me, just taking Jane for a walk.
Ironically hilarious. Beast or whoever sounded like Kenny got fucked up by a wolf man! HHAHAAHA
Everything happens for a reason
Not really the same situation. The dog attacked Clem and then got fatally injured. Where as Kenny was fighting with Jane and was absolutely no threat to Clem. In fact he's the opposite as he actually gets her to "potentially" one of the safest places she can be.
Getting a little hostile there aren't you? While you may have made some good points, I can't really say the same about your delivery.
Perhaps. And for that, I apologize. Things can get frustrating sometimes.
At least you apologised, so it's all good.
Me either, it's called Reaching. It has nothing to do with Kenny. Kenny was manipulated by a woman to fight. Clementine was manipulated by a woman to shoot her "friend." Kenny wasn't rabid. He was provoked by Jane to fight. That is what happened.
Zykelator OMG YOUR BACK WB bro.
Yeah. I just couldnt miss out all the good, intellectual conversations this site has to offer.
The dog had nothing to do with Kenny, your link of the two is redundant. The dog served as a plot device to tug at our heart strings. After all who would really enjoy killing a dog? It's the harshness of the life the characters have had to endure
People see what they want to see.