Kenny Accidentally Elbows Clementine

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  • Why so Liberal all he did was back up into her, he looked sorry.

    CuteClem posted: »

    yes

  • edited December 2015

    Actually, I think that Kenny was really the only character that appeared for more than 1 Episode that Clementine hadn't bonded with(There's Larry too but he showed more protectiveness for her when threatening Lee in Episode 1).

    KCohere posted: »

    Yeah, I agree. I dont feel this "close" relationship between Kenny and Clem was earned. She bonded more with Christa and Omid, Luke, and certainly Lee.

  • edited December 2015

    We don't have to assume anything, even so what if they didn't bond at all during the 3 Month time skip? All we know is that they met Mark who had lots of food and that they began to fortify The Motel. Also, if they did bond during that time then the game doesn't show it in any way, Kenny still barely talks to Clementine and doesn't even try to speak nicely to her when she's upset over Duck or when she's upset over stealing from The Stranger's Van. Plus if he cared about Clementine, voluntarily going out to rescue her with Lee wouldn't be dependent on Lee's relationship with Kenny, it would be dependent on Clementine's relationship with Kenny. Being around someone doesn't necessarily mean you love them, especially if you gave them little attention during the time you were around them, as for Season 2, I don't think Kenny is the closest person to Lee that Clementine had, I'd say that perhaps Luke or Pete were more like Lee than Kenny was, plus if you chose Jane or neither at the end, then technically Jane or AJ are the closest people to Lee that Clementine has, but I'd say Clementine is overall the closest person to being like Lee since he taught her everything he knew and he genuinely loved her, at least I think so.

    dan290786 posted: »

    Well we have to assume during the 3 month time jump in season 1 that they bonded then. Besides, i think its more of the fact that they have

  • And those two times were (1)to warn to her about Spiders in her hair, which startles her and (2)to show anger towards her for her worries over Duck. I think if they really bonded the game would show it, I mean we were told in two lines how Lilly and Clementine bonded, Clementine being the only person she cares about non-determinantly and how she gave Clementine bands to tie her hair which protects her from being grabbed, if there was truly a relationship between Kenny and Clementine, I think it would've at least been mentioned.

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    Well we have to assume during the 3 month time jump in season 1 that they bonded then. Besides, i think its more of the fact that they have

  • I'd be happy too just to see a familiar face whether I had a positive or negative relationship with them, I think when Clementine saw Kenny again, she gained hope that perhaps the world can go back to how it was before the Apocalypse, I think seeing Kenny reminded her not only of her good times with the Season 1 Group but also about before the Apocalypse, seeing someone you thought had died again is something that can easily fill you with happiness and hope I think. I don't think people are complaining about the dialogue but more so the relationship, Kenny only spoke to Clementine twice the entire Season, Clementine never even replied or talked to him first, that speaks a bit of volume about their relationship, even Clementine's off-screen relationship with characters like Lilly were mentioned which emphasizes their lack of one in Season 1, but then in Season 2 they reunite and become close to one another, there are barely any options to disagree with Kenny's ideals, despite putting Clementine in danger and getting angry at her, they still stay close together. The Plot forced a relationship with Kenny and Clementine in a way that seems like they supposedly already had a good relationship in the 1st Season, that's my only real dislike about it and how this relationship overshadowed other characters I wanted to learn more about, ever since Episode 2 the Cabin Group lost allot of focus on them and they all ended up dying by the end of the Season. The same goes for Jane, the Season practically forced relationships and bonding to occur between characters where there weren't really any choices to prevent this from happening.

    wdfan posted: »

    Yeah I agree pretty much. Even if Kenny and Lee weren't close, Clementine should probably still be happy to see him considering they were pa

  • I thought that was towards Lee?

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    She does have at least one line to Kenny, when she says "Duck's sick..." to him in Episode 3.

  • edited December 2015

    In terms of Arvo trying to escape, why was that such a big deal? Of course he's trying to escape, Kenny tried to kill him and bullied him and everyone in the group seemed to think he was being over-dramatic at that point, even if Arvo tried to escape, it's not his fault that everyone was in a panic, Kenny and Mike are the ones who yelled out and started the panic, drawing everyone's attention away from Luke, even so, how would Luke's fate be any different? He'd still be on the ice and he'd still be in danger of falling. The only thing that Arvo did during this scene was try to escape after getting physically abused by Kenny earlier. Plus Kenny knew how Arvo was dangerous to the group, honestly I think he should've just let Arvo run, there was really nothing he could've done, or told him to leave at the beginning of Episode 5 so that they went to the Town as originally planned instead of choosing to follow someone who was apart of an ambush.

    There's a lot more to it than that. How did Arvo screw everyone over? He ran across the lake, making everyone panic and run to

  • There's also a little thing called a "self-fulfilling prophecy". Kenny was only 'right' about Arvo because Kenny gave him enough of a reason to be angry, untrustworthy, and vengeful towards Clementine and Kenny. Treat someone like dirt for long enough, and eventually they'll snap and fight back.

    While Arvo may have been a part of the ambush and was left defenseless and at the mercy of Clementine's group, it was Kenny's deplorable behavior that help fuel Arvo's animosity towards Clementine and Kenny that resulted in her being shot, and the death of his sister had only fueled his desire for vengeance even more.

    KCohere posted: »

    Nope, sorry, I dont agree with your "facts" or this kill 'em all attitude. You put a lot of weight on Arvo's actions but Kenny is completely

  • edited December 2015

    Right?

    People's lack of empathy in the wake of episode 5 baffled and disturbed me, especially as the game hits you over the head with the fact that you shouldn't be angry at Arvo in the Lee dream sequence.

    prink34320 posted: »

    In terms of Arvo trying to escape, why was that such a big deal? Of course he's trying to escape, Kenny tried to kill him and bullied him an

  • My point exactly.

    wdfan posted: »

    Yeah, Arvo would have been killed straight after the shootout by most groups. It's amazing that he not only instantly became a member of the

  • Don't get me wrong, Clem deserves nothing but the best in all other cases, but it was really stupid of her to join in on the interference bandwagon.

    CuteClem posted: »

    god ... poor Clem

  • Kenny is not at all completely in the right, but Kenny certainly was right that Arvo needed to die, as demonstrated from the final 40 minutes of the episode.

    KCohere posted: »

    Nope, sorry, I dont agree with your "facts" or this kill 'em all attitude. You put a lot of weight on Arvo's actions but Kenny is completely

  • Which is exactly why Kenny should have killed him. I'm aware it was Kenny's fault as well that Arvo lost it, but Kenny probably knew that, so he should have been smart enough to finish the job,

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    There's also a little thing called a "self-fulfilling prophecy". Kenny was only 'right' about Arvo because Kenny gave him enough of a reason

  • Yes, I guess you could argue that, but he was still a rat in the end, and I'm sure he would have been anyway even without Kenny's abuse.

    prink34320 posted: »

    In terms of Arvo trying to escape, why was that such a big deal? Of course he's trying to escape, Kenny tried to kill him and bullied him an

  • With that logic, Kenny would need to die as well.

    He deliberately tries to force everyone into an unknown destination with no proof of its existence, no shelter from a blizzard, and with very limited supplies. When there is a vote, Kenny dismisses it and makes it adamant that everyone is going to Wellington whether they like it or not. In other words, he deliberately risks the lives of everyone involved, including Clementine and the baby he's meant to care for, just to please one or two people, everyone else be damned.

    Besides, killing Arvo would have damaged most of the group's trust in Kenny even more, and I'd imagine that forcing everyone to go to Wellington afterwards would have still resulted in a mutiny against him.

    Which is exactly why Kenny should have killed him. I'm aware it was Kenny's fault as well that Arvo lost it, but Kenny probably knew that, so he should have been smart enough to finish the job,

  • I have without a doubt in my mind Kenny needs to die too. I'm well aware of what he did too. But that's the thing, you can kill Kenny. But Arvo goes untouched.

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    With that logic, Kenny would need to die as well. He deliberately tries to force everyone into an unknown destination with no proof of it

  • Because it's Kenny apparently. The "piece of shit" kind of guy. Then again, Kenny had no right to beat the shit out of Arvo even though Arvo partially deserved it. The elbow was an accident but we can't blame Clementine nor Kenny so Kenny shouldn't be at fault for unintentionally hurting Clem but for abusing Arvo.

    NicWarden posted: »

    Why so Liberal all he did was back up into her, he looked sorry.

  • Arvo always had a grudge on Clementine because she "killed" his sister. He never saw her zombified so that's probably why he wanted his own retribution. I'm not defending Kenny since he's the reason why Mike and Bonnie betrayed them but Arvo's betrayal is either Kenny or Clementine or both.

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    There's also a little thing called a "self-fulfilling prophecy". Kenny was only 'right' about Arvo because Kenny gave him enough of a reason

  • But such a small child, do not think much and just works.

    Don't get me wrong, Clem deserves nothing but the best in all other cases, but it was really stupid of her to join in on the interference bandwagon.

  • edited December 2015

    I was frightened when I saw that excuse of a character called Kenny... again.

    He didn't even apologize when he hit her on the face! What a jerk.

  • Oh please, Clem's smarter than anybody in the entire group. Except maybe Jane... she's pretty smart.

    CuteClem posted: »

    But such a small child, do not think much and just works.

  • Arvo needed to die, as demonstrated from the final 40 minutes of the episode.

    I dunno, if a group of people just came up to me and shot my sister (whom i didn't see turn) and then beats me for no reasons, I would've tried to fight back or run away.

    Kenny is wrong.

    None of it would've happened if he knows when to swallow his pride, but he's an edgy asshole so he ruined everything.

    Kenny is not at all completely in the right, but Kenny certainly was right that Arvo needed to die, as demonstrated from the final 40 minutes of the episode.

  • There's no an intelligent connection. Children are children, is indeed a very smart girl (relative age 10-11) but it was still a little girl, and her head is not built like that of adults, no matter how clever. It intervenes in many cases (even when she wanted to save Alvin) This is probably part of her character. She did not have to intervene, but the fact is what stopped Kenny killing 18-year-old boy ...

    Oh please, Clem's smarter than anybody in the entire group. Except maybe Jane... she's pretty smart.

  • Uh, No. She's literally the smartest out of all the adults. First of all, Age does not matter, some kids are 10 years old and god damn geniuses. Second of all, the plot was LITERALLY WRITTEN to the point, where Clementine was the smartest out of ALL of them, because everyone else is just stupid.

    CuteClem posted: »

    There's no an intelligent connection. Children are children, is indeed a very smart girl (relative age 10-11) but it was still a little girl

  • That's fair I guess, but I still gave a good example for Tara. Rick's group killed Tara's sister (I think it was her sister), and Tara was okay with Rick's group completely.

    Arvo needed to die, as demonstrated from the final 40 minutes of the episode. I dunno, if a group of people just came up to me and s

  • i don't think so. They are not really stupid, they take advantage of Clementine, if not understanding. Because it's small, easy for them to use it. Clementine is still a little girl, you can not tell the head of the 10-year-old girl built like the head of an adult age 40.

    Uh, No. She's literally the smartest out of all the adults. First of all, Age does not matter, some kids are 10 years old and god damn geniu

  • He even hit her ... you're not paying attention to her situation ?! She almost froze to death, almost broke her nose, another little girl could cry ... Kenny just a piece of ruthless, idiot.

    I was frightened when I saw that excuse of a character called Kenny... again. He didn't even apologize when he hit her on the face! What a jerk.

  • Actually, the head of a 10 year old girl can indeed be built like the head of an adult. They CAN be that smart.

    CuteClem posted: »

    i don't think so. They are not really stupid, they take advantage of Clementine, if not understanding. Because it's small, easy for them to

  • And the adults are INDEED that stupid. It's not just them taking advantage of her, it's every single fucking plan they've ever had.

    CuteClem posted: »

    i don't think so. They are not really stupid, they take advantage of Clementine, if not understanding. Because it's small, easy for them to

  • It does not matter, does not deserve a little girl being hit its nose ... She stepped in without thinking too much, but still, it does not deserve ...

    And the adults are INDEED that stupid. It's not just them taking advantage of her, it's every single fucking plan they've ever had.

  • Well that's just your opinion.

    CuteClem posted: »

    It does not matter, does not deserve a little girl being hit its nose ... She stepped in without thinking too much, but still, it does not deserve ...

  • you don't sorry for a little girl?

    Well that's just your opinion.

  • Disagree that Arvo was only dangerous because of how Kenny treated him. Infact if he had been treated better by the group, he might had the opportunity to kill Clementine and other group members even quicker. You can't blame the kid entirely though, I mean this group robbed him and then killed his crew/family. I woulda capped Clementine, Kenny and Jane first chance I got and then ran off if I was him.

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    There's also a little thing called a "self-fulfilling prophecy". Kenny was only 'right' about Arvo because Kenny gave him enough of a reason

  • I do feel sorry for a little girl. But this is a fictional little girl we're talking about here.

    CuteClem posted: »

    you don't sorry for a little girl?

  • I do not agree with you. This is a fictional character based on a little girl, it just shows that you have no sensitivity to the game. For me it little girl for everything and everyone who watches it.

    I do feel sorry for a little girl. But this is a fictional little girl we're talking about here.

  • True but his group wanted to fuck with Clem's group they had it coming. I understand his hatred but he was a fool like his group. Hopefully, Clem won't take that kind of shit in Season 3.

    wdfan posted: »

    Disagree that Arvo was only dangerous because of how Kenny treated him. Infact if he had been treated better by the group, he might had the

  • edited December 2015

    Rick's group killed Tara's sister (I think it was her sister)

    Uh, no they didn't. Tara's sister Lilly killed the Governor. Supposedly she committed suicide by letting the walkers eat her, though that's never shown.

    That's fair I guess, but I still gave a good example for Tara. Rick's group killed Tara's sister (I think it was her sister), and Tara was okay with Rick's group completely.

  • Oh, I thought somebody shot the girl standing next to Tara in the head. It appeared to me they were close. Please forgive me for my misinformation, I haven't seen Season 4 in a while.

  • edited December 2015

    I think you might mean the girl Tara was in a relationship with, Alisha. When Alisha was shooting at Tyreese, Alisha was shot in the head by Lizzie. (Lizzie was the psychotic girl who ends up killing her own sister Mika later, who Carol has to shoot. "Just look at the flowers....")

    Oh, I thought somebody shot the girl standing next to Tara in the head. It appeared to me they were close. Please forgive me for my misinformation, I haven't seen Season 4 in a while.

  • He could have just put a bullet through Arvo's head. Beating him up was just drawing it out.

    There's a lot more to it than that. How did Arvo screw everyone over? He ran across the lake, making everyone panic and run to

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