Absolutely. I never liked Christa to be honest. And the moment we met Omid and Christa, wasn't the best moment to have new people at all, after what happened with Kenny and his family. I wasn't in the mood for strangers.
Lol true man, i thought "Wow, So we have 4 people with us, and the 2 who we've been with the most and have just saved one (Ben) from dying, … moreget killed and go missing, and 2 that are left, have been in only one episode and one tries to be a class clown (Omid) and the other one is some whiny pregnant chick who tries to tell everyone what to do(Christa)".
I was more then happy with who we had before them, Lee, Clementine, Kenny, Ben and Chuck. Sometimes i feel had they not introduced Christa and Omid then Chuck wouldn't of died so quickly after they arrived and if they weren't going to do anything with them in season two, then Ben and Kenny should've not been either killed or lost from the group.
Absolutely. I never liked Christa to be honest. And the moment we met Omid and Christa, wasn't the best moment to have new people at all, after what happened with Kenny and his family. I wasn't in the mood for strangers.
It was kind of stupid to have them survive just for Omid to die 5 minutes into Season 2 and Christa disappearing forever. Glad Kenny is back though, I wish him better luck for Season 3.
I was more then happy with who we had before them, Lee, Clementine, Kenny, Ben and Chuck. Sometimes i feel had they not introduced Christa a… morend Omid then Chuck wouldn't of died so quickly after they arrived and if they weren't going to do anything with them in season two, then Ben and Kenny should've not been either killed or lost from the group.
Yeah i always felt like those characters who had to die for christa and omid died for nothing. Yeah except now that Kenny determinant which annoys me because stupid Jane had to lie about the baby and look what happened.
It was kind of stupid to have them survive just for Omid to die 5 minutes into Season 2 and Christa disappearing forever. Glad Kenny is back though, I wish him better luck for Season 3.
I just hope they make the decisions really matter this time and allow us to have Kenny around the whole season. I doubt it will happen, but one can dream.
Yeah i always felt like those characters who had to die for christa and omid died for nothing. Yeah except now that Kenny determinant which annoys me because stupid Jane had to lie about the baby and look what happened.
I still remember all the crazy stuff happening during the wait. Like Cluke, someone posting Rule 34 pictures in the waiting thread, causing mods to remove the adding photos system for some time, all the theories and hype. Also can't forget the Kenny/Jane thing. Hope the wait for Season 3 won't be boring as well.
I still remember all the crazy stuff happening during the wait. Like Cluke, someone posting Rule 34 pictures in the waiting thread, causing … moremods to remove the adding photos system for some time, all the theories and hype. Also can't forget the Kenny/Jane thing. Hope the wait for Season 3 won't be boring as well.
Why is it that time goes so fast during a new game but when waiting for a game to be released (cough season 3 cough) time moves slower than the walkers outside carvers camp
I just hope they make the decisions really matter this time and allow us to have Kenny around the whole season. I doubt it will happen, but one can dream.
Why is it that time goes so fast during a new game but when waiting for a game to be released (cough season 3 cough) time moves slower than the walkers outside carvers camp
All in all, this was probrably one of my favorite episode in S2. I loved the focus on Clementine in this episode, sadly this was the only episode where Clementine gets ANY development. One thing I loved about this episode was how hopeless I felt while playing as her. It made the whole situation realistic, she actually had her own flaws in this episode. One of my favorite parts was when we had to get away from Winston, I loved how we had to bite, crawl, or use a branch to fight him off. It made me feel like I was in a LITTLE GIRLS shoes. All That Remains did a good job at making us feel like we were "just a little girl". Such a shame that the rest of the episodes basically ruined her character for some people.
I loved A House Divided slightly more than All That Remains, because it was awesome. The focus on the Cabin Group and actually Kenny, even though introduced, didn't take the spotlight! Only in later episodes with different writers, he stole the show. Also, Nick, my bae <3333.
Think the cause for this is Nick Breckon not writing all episodes by himself, and the reason Episode 5 was worse than 1 and 2 is probably because he tried to close the storylines opened in previous episodes, which he apparently wasn't good at. Telltale needs to have the lead writer thing again, and if it was up to me I'd choose Nick Breckon.
All in all, this was probrably one of my favorite episode in S2. I loved the focus on Clementine in this episode, sadly this was the only ep… moreisode where Clementine gets ANY development. One thing I loved about this episode was how hopeless I felt while playing as her. It made the whole situation realistic, she actually had her own flaws in this episode. One of my favorite parts was when we had to get away from Winston, I loved how we had to bite, crawl, or use a branch to fight him off. It made me feel like I was in a LITTLE GIRLS shoes. All That Remains did a good job at making us feel like we were "just a little girl". Such a shame that the rest of the episodes basically ruined her character for some people.
To be honest, I hated All That Remains initially, I didn't like any of the characters and they and the story lacked the 'glow' (?) of Season 1. The fact that Omid and Christa were killed off too soon (like 8 seconds) and then we were placed with a bunch of people who all wanted you to die in the shed... In hindsight, it wasn't that bad, but it dented my hopes for a brilliant Season like the first
I still don't think any of the writers in S2 were necessarily bad. Episodes 1 and 2 are mostly solid, Pierre Shorette (In Harm's Way) was one of the season leads for TFTB, and wrote episodes 1, 2 and 5. He also worked on TWAU, and wrote the first episode. Eric Stirpe (Amid The Ruins) was also a writer for TFTB, and wrote episode 3
The only questionable writer on the team was JT Petty (Amid The Ruins), which was a weird choice anyways, to say the least. Why would you randomly bring in the guy that wrote for Outlast to write an episode of TWD? Not that's he's necessarily a bad writer, but it just seems so out of the blue, and given the guy's previous work, TWD doesn't really seem like it's a good fit for him.
I still stand by the belief that S2 only lacked because there wasn't as much cohesion as S1, or any of the other series for that matter. In comparison to all other games they've done, this one felt like it was the most free-form. It seems like there wasn't as much of an end-game in mind with S2, and was more of a "make it up as we go" kind of story. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing (at least not all the time), but if these forums are any indication, it's an experiment that didn't really work out as planned. I mean, S1 was built entirely off of the final scene. They knew exactly where the story would end up from the very beginning, and built the entire game around reaching that conclusion. But for S2? The episode 5 slide was probably the most concrete idea they had for the ending. Around the mid-point, it almost felt like a little tug of war game was going on between the writers. It's like, the first two episodes go in one direction, episode 3 wants to go in another and keeps pestering the driver to turn left, then episode 4 tries to grab the wheel while the car's still moving, then episode 5 is the course correction as you try to stop the car from careening into a ditch.
Minecraft has different writers literally every episode, yet it's been a consistent story so far. TFTB had dedicated season leads, which obviously worked out well in its favor. TWAU and GoT also had different teams of writers on individual episodes, but they also turned out fairly consistent too. Well, save for TWAU's rewrite after the first episode, but even in spite of that, the story still held together well going forward.
I loved A House Divided slightly more than All That Remains, because it was awesome. The focus on the Cabin Group and actually Kenny, even t… morehough introduced, didn't take the spotlight! Only in later episodes with different writers, he stole the show. Also, Nick, my bae <3333.
Think the cause for this is Nick Breckon not writing all episodes by himself, and the reason Episode 5 was worse than 1 and 2 is probably because he tried to close the storylines opened in previous episodes, which he apparently wasn't good at. Telltale needs to have the lead writer thing again, and if it was up to me I'd choose Nick Breckon.
I'm an avid season 2 defender.I think it was just as good as season 1, hell, Season 2 Episode 3 is right next to "Starved for Help" as one of my favorite Walking Dead episodes of all time.
But i will NEVER defend Season 2 Episode 4. It is the absolute worst abomination that TellTale has ever shat out.
To be honest, I hated All That Remains initially, I didn't like any of the characters and they and the story lacked the 'glow' (?) of Season… more 1. The fact that Omid and Christa were killed off too soon (like 8 seconds) and then we were placed with a bunch of people who all wanted you to die in the shed... In hindsight, it wasn't that bad, but it dented my hopes for a brilliant Season like the first
Yeah, I know Pierre Shorette is amazing, maybe TWD isn't his thing, but y'know, who cares, I liked Episode Three. I just think it's worse than 2 and 3 because it started the whole Everybody Loves/Hates Kenny thing (I really don't like the idea of bringing him back, but hey, if it's done correctly, what's there to complain about?).
And yeah, I agree with the episodes suddenly wanting to change directions. Mid-game, the storyline seemed to wander off from Episodes 1 and 2 and it seems like Episode 5 just wanted to catch up, that's why it needed to close every piece of story started in the previous episodes (I still feel like the town wasn't even supposed to be there and it was just something added in the last minute, but ditched anyway one episode later) but yeah, I think whether Episode 5 sucked or not is a matter of opinion. I liked it SO MUCH, some people didn't, fair enough. But still, #HailNickBreckon.
I still don't think any of the writers in S2 were necessarily bad. Episodes 1 and 2 are mostly solid, Pierre Shorette (In Harm's Way) was on… moree of the season leads for TFTB, and wrote episodes 1, 2 and 5. He also worked on TWAU, and wrote the first episode. Eric Stirpe (Amid The Ruins) was also a writer for TFTB, and wrote episode 3
The only questionable writer on the team was JT Petty (Amid The Ruins), which was a weird choice anyways, to say the least. Why would you randomly bring in the guy that wrote for Outlast to write an episode of TWD? Not that's he's necessarily a bad writer, but it just seems so out of the blue, and given the guy's previous work, TWD doesn't really seem like it's a good fit for him.
I still stand by the belief that S2 only lacked because there wasn't as much cohesion as S1, or any of the other series for that matter. In comparison to all other games they've done, this one felt like it was the most free-form. It … [view original content]
That's exactly how I feel with the season. To me, episodes 1 2 and 5 all feel consistent with each other, in the sense of how characters are written and all of that. Also, there's a lot more references and overall continuity across those three episodes than there is with 3 and 4. Ever notice how Christa and Wellington basically stop getting mentioned in episodes 3 and 4, then get remembered again in episode 5? Or how the first two episodes involved the group moving north, and then finally continued going north in episode 5? Episodes 1 2 and 5 all feel like they're part of the same basic story arc, with the basic goals established in episodes 1 and 2 being picked back up in episode 5 (moving north, trying to find the so-called Wellington, and to a degree, trying to find Christa along the way).
Episodes 3 and 4, however, feel like they're a detour of sorts, and one that wasn't really needed, either. And I don't mean in the sense of getting kidnapped by Carver and all that. That's all fine, the problem lies in the plot seeming to lose its sense of direction during those episodes. It feels like whatever the characters were moving towards as of episode 2 were swapped out for something else in episodes 3 and 4. What happened to expanding on the conflict between Carver and the cabin group, for example? The first two episodes basically set it up as a kind of grey-area conflict between the two, and makes you question the cabin group a little bit. Maybe they do have some skeletons in their closet, and Carver has a reason for coming after them. But then episode 3 rolls around and it's basically like "yeah, turns out the cabin group are the good guys after all, Carver's just a dick!"
And yeah, to put it on record, I'm one of the people here that really likes NGB (second favorite episode out of both seasons), but I mostly left it out of the post because... I don't actually know why I left it out, now that I think about it
Yeah, I know Pierre Shorette is amazing, maybe TWD isn't his thing, but y'know, who cares, I liked Episode Three. I just think it's worse th… morean 2 and 3 because it started the whole Everybody Loves/Hates Kenny thing (I really don't like the idea of bringing him back, but hey, if it's done correctly, what's there to complain about?).
And yeah, I agree with the episodes suddenly wanting to change directions. Mid-game, the storyline seemed to wander off from Episodes 1 and 2 and it seems like Episode 5 just wanted to catch up, that's why it needed to close every piece of story started in the previous episodes (I still feel like the town wasn't even supposed to be there and it was just something added in the last minute, but ditched anyway one episode later) but yeah, I think whether Episode 5 sucked or not is a matter of opinion. I liked it SO MUCH, some people didn't, fair enough. But still, #HailNickBreckon.
That's exactly how I feel with the season. To me, episodes 1 2 and 5 all feel consistent with each other, in the sense of how characters are… more written and all of that. Also, there's a lot more references and overall continuity across those three episodes than there is with 3 and 4. Ever notice how Christa and Wellington basically stop getting mentioned in episodes 3 and 4, then get remembered again in episode 5? Or how the first two episodes involved the group moving north, and then finally continued going north in episode 5? Episodes 1 2 and 5 all feel like they're part of the same basic story arc, with the basic goals established in episodes 1 and 2 being picked back up in episode 5 (moving north, trying to find the so-called Wellington, and to a degree, trying to find Christa along the way).
Episodes 3 and 4, however, feel like they're a detour of sorts, and one that wasn't really needed, either. And I don't mean in the sense of getting k… [view original content]
I know, I shit on Amid The Ruins ALOT. But, there were a few things I liked about the episode. I liked the different variations you get when going with Jane, Mike and Bonnie, Kenny and Rebecca, or even check up on Sarah first. I also liked exploring the museum and the hub area where you got to talk to everyone to see how they're feeling. You know?
Tell me about it...
I'm an avid season 2 defender.I think it was just as good as season 1, hell, Season 2 Episode 3 is right next to "Sta… morerved for Help" as one of my favorite Walking Dead episodes of all time.
But i will NEVER defend Season 2 Episode 4. It is the absolute worst abomination that TellTale has ever shat out.
Yeah, even though there wasn't much to do and most of it was bs, I still liked the quiet moments where you could just interact with the family and see everyone's reaction to Rebecca's baby.
I know, I shit on Amid The Ruins ALOT. But, there were a few things I liked about the episode. I liked the different variations you get when… more going with Jane, Mike and Bonnie, Kenny and Rebecca, or even check up on Sarah first. I also liked exploring the museum and the hub area where you got to talk to everyone to see how they're feeling. You know?
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Boy oh boy do I remember all the speculation! Too bad Episode 4 didn't hold up to all the excitement surrounding it.
If only it had been Lilly...
Absolutely. I never liked Christa to be honest. And the moment we met Omid and Christa, wasn't the best moment to have new people at all, after what happened with Kenny and his family. I wasn't in the mood for strangers.
I was more then happy with who we had before them, Lee, Clementine, Kenny, Ben and Chuck. Sometimes i feel had they not introduced Christa and Omid then Chuck wouldn't of died so quickly after they arrived and if they weren't going to do anything with them in season two, then Ben and Kenny should've not been either killed or lost from the group.
It was kind of stupid to have them survive just for Omid to die 5 minutes into Season 2 and Christa disappearing forever. Glad Kenny is back though, I wish him better luck for Season 3.
Yeah i always felt like those characters who had to die for christa and omid died for nothing. Yeah except now that Kenny determinant which annoys me because stupid Jane had to lie about the baby and look what happened.
I remember when I used to switch over to the slide and it brought me excitement. Now I just cringe.
I just hope they make the decisions really matter this time and allow us to have Kenny around the whole season. I doubt it will happen, but one can dream.
Hey, sure. I'm a little bit dehydrated after all these tears anyway
I still remember all the crazy stuff happening during the wait. Like Cluke, someone posting Rule 34 pictures in the waiting thread, causing mods to remove the adding photos system for some time, all the theories and hype. Also can't forget the Kenny/Jane thing. Hope the wait for Season 3 won't be boring as well.
Shhh. That word shall not be spoken here anymore.
Can't wait for someone relatively handsome and kind to be in Season 3 cast, so another madness can happen.
tosses Crips a water bottle
Why is it that time goes so fast during a new game but when waiting for a game to be released (cough season 3 cough) time moves slower than the walkers outside carvers camp
Do you mean how they had Kenny in season two?
Telltale control the fabric of time and space.
All in all, this was probrably one of my favorite episode in S2. I loved the focus on Clementine in this episode, sadly this was the only episode where Clementine gets ANY development. One thing I loved about this episode was how hopeless I felt while playing as her. It made the whole situation realistic, she actually had her own flaws in this episode. One of my favorite parts was when we had to get away from Winston, I loved how we had to bite, crawl, or use a branch to fight him off. It made me feel like I was in a LITTLE GIRLS shoes. All That Remains did a good job at making us feel like we were "just a little girl". Such a shame that the rest of the episodes basically ruined her character for some people.
I loved A House Divided slightly more than All That Remains, because it was awesome. The focus on the Cabin Group and actually Kenny, even though introduced, didn't take the spotlight! Only in later episodes with different writers, he stole the show. Also, Nick, my bae <3333.
Think the cause for this is Nick Breckon not writing all episodes by himself, and the reason Episode 5 was worse than 1 and 2 is probably because he tried to close the storylines opened in previous episodes, which he apparently wasn't good at. Telltale needs to have the lead writer thing again, and if it was up to me I'd choose Nick Breckon.
More or less, I'd like him to be around for the whole season, from start to end. But I don't think it's gonna happen.
To be honest, I hated All That Remains initially, I didn't like any of the characters and they and the story lacked the 'glow' (?) of Season 1. The fact that Omid and Christa were killed off too soon (like 8 seconds) and then we were placed with a bunch of people who all wanted you to die in the shed... In hindsight, it wasn't that bad, but it dented my hopes for a brilliant Season like the first
I still don't think any of the writers in S2 were necessarily bad. Episodes 1 and 2 are mostly solid, Pierre Shorette (In Harm's Way) was one of the season leads for TFTB, and wrote episodes 1, 2 and 5. He also worked on TWAU, and wrote the first episode. Eric Stirpe (Amid The Ruins) was also a writer for TFTB, and wrote episode 3
The only questionable writer on the team was JT Petty (Amid The Ruins), which was a weird choice anyways, to say the least. Why would you randomly bring in the guy that wrote for Outlast to write an episode of TWD? Not that's he's necessarily a bad writer, but it just seems so out of the blue, and given the guy's previous work, TWD doesn't really seem like it's a good fit for him.
I still stand by the belief that S2 only lacked because there wasn't as much cohesion as S1, or any of the other series for that matter. In comparison to all other games they've done, this one felt like it was the most free-form. It seems like there wasn't as much of an end-game in mind with S2, and was more of a "make it up as we go" kind of story. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing (at least not all the time), but if these forums are any indication, it's an experiment that didn't really work out as planned. I mean, S1 was built entirely off of the final scene. They knew exactly where the story would end up from the very beginning, and built the entire game around reaching that conclusion. But for S2? The episode 5 slide was probably the most concrete idea they had for the ending. Around the mid-point, it almost felt like a little tug of war game was going on between the writers. It's like, the first two episodes go in one direction, episode 3 wants to go in another and keeps pestering the driver to turn left, then episode 4 tries to grab the wheel while the car's still moving, then episode 5 is the course correction as you try to stop the car from careening into a ditch.
Minecraft has different writers literally every episode, yet it's been a consistent story so far. TFTB had dedicated season leads, which obviously worked out well in its favor. TWAU and GoT also had different teams of writers on individual episodes, but they also turned out fairly consistent too. Well, save for TWAU's rewrite after the first episode, but even in spite of that, the story still held together well going forward.
Tell me about it...
I'm an avid season 2 defender.I think it was just as good as season 1, hell, Season 2 Episode 3 is right next to "Starved for Help" as one of my favorite Walking Dead episodes of all time.
But i will NEVER defend Season 2 Episode 4. It is the absolute worst abomination that TellTale has ever shat out.
The beginning of Season 2 was almost like TTG was throwing us back in their universe.
"Remember Clementine? Yeah, her life's still shit."
Yeah, I know Pierre Shorette is amazing, maybe TWD isn't his thing, but y'know, who cares, I liked Episode Three. I just think it's worse than 2 and 3 because it started the whole Everybody Loves/Hates Kenny thing (I really don't like the idea of bringing him back, but hey, if it's done correctly, what's there to complain about?).
And yeah, I agree with the episodes suddenly wanting to change directions. Mid-game, the storyline seemed to wander off from Episodes 1 and 2 and it seems like Episode 5 just wanted to catch up, that's why it needed to close every piece of story started in the previous episodes (I still feel like the town wasn't even supposed to be there and it was just something added in the last minute, but ditched anyway one episode later) but yeah, I think whether Episode 5 sucked or not is a matter of opinion. I liked it SO MUCH, some people didn't, fair enough. But still, #HailNickBreckon.
That's exactly how I feel with the season. To me, episodes 1 2 and 5 all feel consistent with each other, in the sense of how characters are written and all of that. Also, there's a lot more references and overall continuity across those three episodes than there is with 3 and 4. Ever notice how Christa and Wellington basically stop getting mentioned in episodes 3 and 4, then get remembered again in episode 5? Or how the first two episodes involved the group moving north, and then finally continued going north in episode 5? Episodes 1 2 and 5 all feel like they're part of the same basic story arc, with the basic goals established in episodes 1 and 2 being picked back up in episode 5 (moving north, trying to find the so-called Wellington, and to a degree, trying to find Christa along the way).
Episodes 3 and 4, however, feel like they're a detour of sorts, and one that wasn't really needed, either. And I don't mean in the sense of getting kidnapped by Carver and all that. That's all fine, the problem lies in the plot seeming to lose its sense of direction during those episodes. It feels like whatever the characters were moving towards as of episode 2 were swapped out for something else in episodes 3 and 4. What happened to expanding on the conflict between Carver and the cabin group, for example? The first two episodes basically set it up as a kind of grey-area conflict between the two, and makes you question the cabin group a little bit. Maybe they do have some skeletons in their closet, and Carver has a reason for coming after them. But then episode 3 rolls around and it's basically like "yeah, turns out the cabin group are the good guys after all, Carver's just a dick!"
And yeah, to put it on record, I'm one of the people here that really likes NGB (second favorite episode out of both seasons), but I mostly left it out of the post because... I don't actually know why I left it out, now that I think about it
Exactly. Wise words, man. NGB is also my second favourite, being topped by A House Divided. All That Remains is third on my list.
I know, I shit on Amid The Ruins ALOT. But, there were a few things I liked about the episode. I liked the different variations you get when going with Jane, Mike and Bonnie, Kenny and Rebecca, or even check up on Sarah first. I also liked exploring the museum and the hub area where you got to talk to everyone to see how they're feeling. You know?
Yeah, even though there wasn't much to do and most of it was bs, I still liked the quiet moments where you could just interact with the family and see everyone's reaction to Rebecca's baby.