Gwyn loves Asher.If you accept her suggest and dont posion or ambush them, she gonna kill her father's soldier. At the ending of episode 6, she will show up with Talia.
But I didnt accept her peace suggest and killed Gryff
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And here is what I think about Gwyn:
She maybe did help the Forresters. But no longer after she knew we imprisoned her brother. Look at Ryon's face. She said to you she tried to protect him, and what kind of protect bring bruises all over his face like that ??? That can't be trusted.
Yeah she and Asher did love each other. But that happened when they were young. Now they become adult, look at the emnity berween 2 family from all over the years, are you sure they still feel the same ??! I seriously doubt that !!!
Look at her offer: It's the one sided deal. What's the benefit for a slave when working for their master ??? Nothing !!! And the wedding, here is what I think, Rodrik was dead, Ethan was dead, Ryon is just the kid, too easy to deal (and to kill) , Asher is the last hope. Now if he's dead when she's his wife, all assets of house Forresters will come to her, Ironrath and the XYZ Forest as well (sorry I forgot the name of the forest).
If you spare the traitor. He will appear in the end, side by side with you and Talia, said "we lost this battle, we haven't lost this war yet". Now let's say If Telltale does not reveal to us who is the traitor in your family, instead they give us a choice to pin out the traitor (based on your instinct) or worse, never give us that kind of choice. Now who will you believe ??? Your Sentinel, maybe. Your Maester, maybe. Your former candidate Sentinel, maybe. Your mother, no way, but ... maybe. It will drive you into mad, when you need to "awake" more than never. Suspicion will kill you before your enemy kill you. That could be her very intend, as well as her father. And as I said, after all, your traitor still... loyal to you
I remembered in my playthrough, Beshka only meet Gwyn and talk about her just before the feast to "celebrate" your allied. She said "Sending the girl first, clever. Do not let her playing with your head little brother". Beshka was a slave. She was a pit fighter. She have survived through a lot of circumstance. No doubt she had a great instinct, a GREAT WOMAN INSTINCT. And the 1st word she say to you about a woman she never met before have meaning: BE CAREFUL !!! OK I admit we can't solve anything just based on instinct, but, who knows
To be short, both Gwyn and Ludd working together. While Ludd is trying to actively work against you as an enemy, Gwyn is actively trying to work against you as a friend !!!
There is only 1 time Gwyn make me confuse. In my friend playthrough, instead the traitor with you and Talia after the end, we have Gwyn. Except that one, I cannot stop doubt her act. Could be she was forced to doing so by her father, like a lot of father in GoT did. Or more simple, she and her father united in mind. Nothing is impossible
Sorry but I highly disagree with you. For what I understand you're saying the Gwyn is plotting against the Forresters by pretending to be our friend.
Look, Gryff had just been imprisioned by the Forresters, maybe even beaten and blinded by them and he gets home and founds Ryon that happens to be the little brother of the persons who imprisioned him. As you may imagine, Gryff was not very happy and how could Gwyn possibly control his anger?
Yes, they may not be in love anymore.
"It's the one sided deal. What's the benefit for a slave when working for their master ???" Lemme see: avoid the destruction of your keep, keep your family, smallfolk, soldiers, etc alive? Oh, ok complete destruction is a better option.
This point was probably in the context of that reply, because it doesn't make very sense here...
I belive that it was just a joke-ish statement and not something major, since it is displayed when you're making a choice and all...
Re-post my old reply
And here is what I think about Gwyn:
* She maybe did help the Forresters. But no longer after she knew we i… moremprisoned her brother. Look at Ryon's face. She said to you she tried to protect him, and what kind of protect bring bruises all over his face like that ??? That can't be trusted.
* Yeah she and Asher did love each other. But that happened when they were young. Now they become adult, look at the emnity berween 2 family from all over the years, are you sure they still feel the same ??! I seriously doubt that !!!
* Look at her offer: It's the one sided deal. What's the benefit for a slave when working for their master ??? Nothing !!! And the wedding, here is what I think, Rodrik was dead, Ethan was dead, Ryon is just the kid, too easy to deal (and to kill) , Asher is the last hope. Now if he's dead when she's his wife, all assets of house Forresters will come to her, Ironrath and the XYZ Forest as wel… [view original content]
I like your discuss, much much better than the guy discuss with me in the first topic I wrote this comment ! He said about my 5th opinion, that Beshka jealous with Gwyn's beauty, the one Asher dream about every night
Believe me or not, the choice is yours, I'm just a fan of Telltale Games since TWD, my opinion is not Telltale's opinion Of course I'm believe what I want to believe
Sorry but I highly disagree with you. For what I understand you're saying the Gwyn is plotting against the Forresters by pretending to be ou… morer friend.
* Look, Gryff had just been imprisioned by the Forresters, maybe even beaten and blinded by them and he gets home and founds Ryon that happens to be the little brother of the persons who imprisioned him. As you may imagine, Gryff was not very happy and how could Gwyn possibly control his anger?
* Yes, they may not be in love anymore.
* "It's the one sided deal. What's the benefit for a slave when working for their master ???" Lemme see: avoid the destruction of your keep, keep your family, smallfolk, soldiers, etc alive? Oh, ok complete destruction is a better option.
* This point was probably in the context of that reply, because it doesn't make very sense here...
* I belive that it was just a joke-ish statement and not something major, since it is displayed when you're making a choice and all...
Just finished the game for the first time - really liked that ending. I was really frustrated that I had 2 choices at the beginning (poison or ambush). I'm not Walder fucking Frey; I don't kill men in my own house.
GWASHER STANS UNITE. I WILL GO DOWN WITH THIS SHIP.
But srsly Asher x Gwyn is the best possible resolution to Season 1. You still get to … morekill Gryff, Lord Whitehill's face gets fucked up, plus you now have the clear advantage of being pals with the one person who seems able to control Ludd. The game is clearly rewarding the player for picking the most diplomatic option.
I get where you're coming from, but the situation is different here. Frey murdered his RIGHTFUL liege lord because of a slight, and did it maliciously.
If Asher didn't ambush/poison the Whitehills everyone would have been killed. He was being forced to kneel (at sword point) after they killed two of his brothers, stole his family's birthright and now want them to be slaves for all time. He did it out of necessity to protect everyone he loved... and the whitehills were definitely in the wrong.
Just finished the game for the first time - really liked that ending. I was really frustrated that I had 2 choices at the beginning (poison or ambush). I'm not Walder fucking Frey; I don't kill men in my own house.
I think Gwyn is the most reasonable Whitehill we've met so far (not saying much) and I think she does believe - in her own misguided way - that she's helping. And she is trying, but at the end of the day she's putting her own family first (which is fair). I don't think she's plotting against the Forresters, because she still warns Rodrik about the siege... but she hasn't been much help.
Talking as someone who played it safe/honourable the whole game on my first play through (submitting, leaving the guard to defend Ironrath and always being cordial and respectful to Ludd/Gryff) I got all of one helpful bit of info from Gwyn which was the traitor. There simply isn't much Gwyn can do to help us, even if she truly wanted to. At the end of the day, it was better to poison Ludd (asher play through) than kill Gryff after calling off my plan.
Gwyn might have tried her best... but she fought with too much sentiment. (light side forresters know what I'm referencing )
Sorry but I highly disagree with you. For what I understand you're saying the Gwyn is plotting against the Forresters by pretending to be ou… morer friend.
* Look, Gryff had just been imprisioned by the Forresters, maybe even beaten and blinded by them and he gets home and founds Ryon that happens to be the little brother of the persons who imprisioned him. As you may imagine, Gryff was not very happy and how could Gwyn possibly control his anger?
* Yes, they may not be in love anymore.
* "It's the one sided deal. What's the benefit for a slave when working for their master ???" Lemme see: avoid the destruction of your keep, keep your family, smallfolk, soldiers, etc alive? Oh, ok complete destruction is a better option.
* This point was probably in the context of that reply, because it doesn't make very sense here...
* I belive that it was just a joke-ish statement and not something major, since it is displayed when you're making a choice and all...
I get where you're coming from, but the situation is different here. Frey murdered his RIGHTFUL liege lord because of a slight, and did it m… morealiciously.
If Asher didn't ambush/poison the Whitehills everyone would have been killed. He was being forced to kneel (at sword point) after they killed two of his brothers, stole his family's birthright and now want them to be slaves for all time. He did it out of necessity to protect everyone he loved... and the whitehills were definitely in the wrong.
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Gwyn loves Asher.If you accept her suggest and dont posion or ambush them, she gonna kill her father's soldier. At the ending of episode 6, she will show up with Talia.
But I didnt accept her peace suggest and killed Gryff
The Beast has better ones.
Like I said, it was proven he was bluffing. That's what happened in my playthrough, though apparently you may have picked a different option.
Well, at least she didn't stab to kill.
Re-post my old reply
And here is what I think about Gwyn:
Sorry but I highly disagree with you. For what I understand you're saying the Gwyn is plotting against the Forresters by pretending to be our friend.
Look, Gryff had just been imprisioned by the Forresters, maybe even beaten and blinded by them and he gets home and founds Ryon that happens to be the little brother of the persons who imprisioned him. As you may imagine, Gryff was not very happy and how could Gwyn possibly control his anger?
Yes, they may not be in love anymore.
"It's the one sided deal. What's the benefit for a slave when working for their master ???" Lemme see: avoid the destruction of your keep, keep your family, smallfolk, soldiers, etc alive? Oh, ok complete destruction is a better option.
This point was probably in the context of that reply, because it doesn't make very sense here...
I belive that it was just a joke-ish statement and not something major, since it is displayed when you're making a choice and all...
I like your discuss, much much better than the guy discuss with me in the first topic I wrote this comment ! He said about my 5th opinion, that Beshka jealous with Gwyn's beauty, the one Asher dream about every night
Believe me or not, the choice is yours, I'm just a fan of Telltale Games since TWD, my opinion is not Telltale's opinion Of course I'm believe what I want to believe
Sorry for my bad English !!!
Just finished the game for the first time - really liked that ending. I was really frustrated that I had 2 choices at the beginning (poison or ambush). I'm not Walder fucking Frey; I don't kill men in my own house.
I get where you're coming from, but the situation is different here. Frey murdered his RIGHTFUL liege lord because of a slight, and did it maliciously.
If Asher didn't ambush/poison the Whitehills everyone would have been killed. He was being forced to kneel (at sword point) after they killed two of his brothers, stole his family's birthright and now want them to be slaves for all time. He did it out of necessity to protect everyone he loved... and the whitehills were definitely in the wrong.
Well.
I think Gwyn is the most reasonable Whitehill we've met so far (not saying much) and I think she does believe - in her own misguided way - that she's helping. And she is trying, but at the end of the day she's putting her own family first (which is fair). I don't think she's plotting against the Forresters, because she still warns Rodrik about the siege... but she hasn't been much help.
Talking as someone who played it safe/honourable the whole game on my first play through (submitting, leaving the guard to defend Ironrath and always being cordial and respectful to Ludd/Gryff) I got all of one helpful bit of info from Gwyn which was the traitor. There simply isn't much Gwyn can do to help us, even if she truly wanted to. At the end of the day, it was better to poison Ludd (asher play through) than kill Gryff after calling off my plan.
Gwyn might have tried her best... but she fought with too much sentiment. (light side forresters know what I'm referencing )
Ryon was bruised up at Highpoint while Gryff was still imprisoned.
Maybe, but it's still honorless
I imagine that's your speculation, because it's never established when Ryon got his bruises.
Remember a Whitehill is still a Whitehill. Im not saying I dont trust Gwyn but I just think that she might turn her back on Asher.
Of course, That's how the whitehill show their loyalty!
But for real, there is still a difference between the way she stabed the whitehill soldier and the way she stabbed Asher, It's what i'm pointing out.
Oh wait disregard that. Oops
Well there is Cersei, Mira, Daenerys, Amaya and Beshka to chose too!
Literally Gwyn
The hate for Gwyn seems a bit unjustified to me. The way i see it, people hate her because she wants peace and not for you to murder her family.