I killed Gryff too. I think she'd most likely end up being forced to marry Ludd's other son or.......OMFG Ludd! Can you imagine how great that would be! If of course we as Rodrik were able to march on over to High Point break in the doors and take Ludd's head!
Of course I don't expect Telltale to let us do something that awesome and stratifying. They will most likely rip off another character's death. So Ludd will likely end up dying on the toilet a la Tywin style - yawn.
Nah the Glenmores have Tyrell backing (No way Roose would want any conflict with the crown), plus they are good in combat and I imagine they… more could hold their own. Besides Ludd declared war because we were vulnerable, I doubt he thinks the Glenmore's are.
Also the Gleanmores don't have Tyrell backing - they're Stark backing. A house like the Tyrells (in the current climate) can put pressure on just about everybody, especially considering Margaery was about to become queen.
Tyrells won't care about anything that happens to the gleamers (or Forresters. Or glovers, or whitehills... we're small fry)
Nah the Glenmores have Tyrell backing (No way Roose would want any conflict with the crown), plus they are good in combat and I imagine they… more could hold their own. Besides Ludd declared war because we were vulnerable, I doubt he thinks the Glenmore's are.
Also the Gleanmores don't have Tyrell backing - they're Stark backing. A house like the Tyrells (in the current climate) can put pressure on… more just about everybody, especially considering Margaery was about to become queen.
Tyrells won't care about anything that happens to the gleamers (or Forresters. Or glovers, or whitehills... we're small fry)
Is everyone assuming she left Ironrath and is safe if Asher is alive? Last we see of her she is sauntering back inside after seeing Rodrik.
I saw the outcome where she is taken, it certainly doesn't look good. I could see Rodrik searching for her and eventually finding her dead. But as the person above me said, it really depends on whether Gryff or Ludd are alive.
Is everyone assuming she left Ironrath and is safe if Asher is alive? Last we see of her she is sauntering back inside after seeing Rodrik.
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I saw the outcome where she is taken, it certainly doesn't look good. I could see Rodrik searching for her and eventually finding her dead. But as the person above me said, it really depends on whether Gryff or Ludd are alive.
If Gryff is alive, you can bet she will raped by him and maybe even murdered afterwards just for his enjoyment. If Ludd's alive, he'll do the smart thing and use her for leverage.
That could definitely happen, but I think Torren would have to kill Gryff to become lord in Season 2. I doubt that Gryff would just kindly lie down and be obedient to Torren just like that, especially after what happened to Ludd and his desire to kill the surviving brother. I think Torren would have to stage a coup against Gryff to tale control of House Whitehill.
That could definitely happen, but I think Torren would have to kill Gryff to become lord in Season 2. I doubt that Gryff would just kindly l… moreie down and be obedient to Torren just like that, especially after what happened to Ludd and his desire to kill the surviving brother. I think Torren would have to stage a coup against Gryff to tale control of House Whitehill.
That's the only plausible way to explain Torren's rise to leadership. The ideal role for Torren in Season 2 for me would be that he is the commander of Gryff's elite guard, but he doesn't always follow Gryff's orders. I feel that if he were to be shown as The Dragon to Gryff instead of The Big Bad of Season 2, they could make his character more interesting and could elaborate on him more since he would be shown prominently. That is, if they even plan to show him off in Season 2.
That's the only plausible way to explain Torren's rise to leadership. The ideal role for Torren in Season 2 for me would be that he is the c… moreommander of Gryff's elite guard, but he doesn't always follow Gryff's orders. I feel that if he were to be shown as The Dragon to Gryff instead of The Big Bad of Season 2, they could make his character more interesting and could elaborate on him more since he would be shown prominently. That is, if they even plan to show him off in Season 2.
That's the only plausible way to explain Torren's rise to leadership. The ideal role for Torren in Season 2 for me would be that he is the c… moreommander of Gryff's elite guard, but he doesn't always follow Gryff's orders. I feel that if he were to be shown as The Dragon to Gryff instead of The Big Bad of Season 2, they could make his character more interesting and could elaborate on him more since he would be shown prominently. That is, if they even plan to show him off in Season 2.
Maybe. I feel he will only take orders from Gryff if he agrees with what his little brother is saying, which I don't think will happen often. It would be a power struggle between the two.
Torrhen is the older brother and hence is Ludd's rightful heir. On top of that, Gryff is probably less charismatic and lack the respect of his men. (In episode 3, if Rodrik refuses to stay down, some Whitehill men start to question Gryff's violent actions, and in episode 4, if Rodrik knocks Gryff to the floor, the Whitehill men ignores Gryff's orders to retaliate.) I think it's very clear who will win that power struggle, though I hope it will drastically weaken House Whitehill if it comes.
Maybe. I feel he will only take orders from Gryff if he agrees with what his little brother is saying, which I don't think will happen often. It would be a power struggle between the two.
Yeah, I think that Gryff, if he's alive, will grow psychotic, or more psychotic than he already was. The soldiers will probably think bad of him and will definitely side with Torren if a civil war were to start. One things for sure though, if Gryff is alive in Season 2, you can bet Torren will dethrone him early on.
Torrhen is the older brother and hence is Ludd's rightful heir. On top of that, Gryff is probably less charismatic and lack the respect of h… moreis men. (In episode 3, if Rodrik refuses to stay down, some Whitehill men start to question Gryff's violent actions, and in episode 4, if Rodrik knocks Gryff to the floor, the Whitehill men ignores Gryff's orders to retaliate.) I think it's very clear who will win that power struggle, though I hope it will drastically weaken House Whitehill if it comes.
I don't think so. Ludd is too smart to do this she will use her against her family and force them to obey him if they want to see her alive anymore. But that will happen just if u will kill Gryff as i did but with Asher so idk what happened if u pick rodrik.
If Ludd is killed , Gryff probably will force her to marry him and then he can f*ck her whenever he wants. (lel that's sounds pretty bad for her ahha )
Anyway, why would you want to let her stay with you when you see that you have already lost the fight against Whitehills
My guess is they're taking her to Highpoint, and what happens to her there is anyone's guess. All I know is that Elaena is bae and I will kill anyone who f*cks (literally or figuratively) with her.
House Whitehill either Strongarmed Lord Glenmore or convinced him to marry Elaena to Gryff and his Liege Lords, The Boltons, murdered Lord Glenmore's son just because his children went behind his back to get help from you. I think they would rape her as well as hold her as a Political Hostage.
I figure they will just hold her hostage to keep the Glenmores from rebelling or try and marry her to a Whitehill such as Torrhen. She's too valuable to rape or kill.
Would she become like Naevia from Spartacus in season 2 and have a vengeful hatred to kill Gryff and every Whitehill soldier. Asking Rodrik to train her in the ways of combat so no man can ever lay their hands on her again.
Blood rains down from an angry sky! My Cock Rages On! MY COCK RAGES ON!
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If Gryff is alive, you can bet she will raped by him and maybe even murdered afterwards just for his enjoyment. If Ludd's alive, he'll do the smart thing and use her for leverage.
I don't know, I think he will. Built up with rage after his father's death, he'll want to take it out on someone. Why not take it out on Elaena Glenmore, who was supposed to marry him but instead got him captured and beaten severely, depending on your choices. She also stuck by the Forrester's side, told Gryff that she would never marry him, and was defiant during all of Season 1. I think that Gryff will take out his rage on Elaena, and will not care about what happens to her after he "finishes" her.
Yeah, I think that Gryff, if he's alive, will grow psychotic, or more psychotic than he already was. The soldiers will probably think bad of… more him and will definitely side with Torren if a civil war were to start. One things for sure though, if Gryff is alive in Season 2, you can bet Torren will dethrone him early on.
I always felt that Gryff definitely won't have the power over House Whitehill, but he'll try to the best of his ability. I imagine that in Season 2 we'll see Torrhen leading the house at Highpoint, but maybe they will turn Ironrath into some sort of cadet branch to House Whitehill, where Gryff will have the power over the cadet branch, but there won't be many men there because of the losses they sustained during The Battle of Ironrath. At least, that's how I think it will happen.
Pretty sure she won't be raped. She is a noble and they are not Boltons. She is worth more alive and well. Probably a forced marriage or hostage! They do not want to provoke a war with another house since even if they won against Forrester, it costed and there is still living Forresters and the Glenmoores is historically seemingly on a good foot with each others. If the idiot hurt Eleana he asked for trouble. I even think Ramsay might ride out to kill him for causing more trouble. The more internal fighting, the weaker the Boltons become and with the turmoil in Kings Landing and a lot of dead Lannisters or exiled/disgraced Lannisters combined with the Martels and Tyrells having their chaos errupting thanks to Lannisters.
Being enraged and being a rapist arent the same things. I dont like this idea that because she is a woman, she is automatically going to be raped. He struck me as ineffectual in any case, unless he had an army to back him up. When I did him in, he cried like a baby. That doesnt struck me as someone who has that kind of violent rage in them.
Ramsay on the other hand is a complete animal with no fear, no limits and no rules. He's done every vile thing you can think of.
I don't know, I think he will. Built up with rage after his father's death, he'll want to take it out on someone. Why not take it out on Ela… moreena Glenmore, who was supposed to marry him but instead got him captured and beaten severely, depending on your choices. She also stuck by the Forrester's side, told Gryff that she would never marry him, and was defiant during all of Season 1. I think that Gryff will take out his rage on Elaena, and will not care about what happens to her after he "finishes" her.
Gryff struck me as the broken son who is still very much a child inside. When you break his mind apart, he cries because of his past. Looking back at my claims, I've been able to come up with answers. Would Gryff as a person rape Elaena? No. Would a broken apart, filled with rage, and completely broken Gryff do it? Yes. I feel that if Gryff does rape Elaena, he will probably end up breaking out in tears and feel horrible. I felt that the Gryff we see in Season 1 is just Gryff's outer shell, and we never see his true emotional state. Inside, I feel that years of being tormented by his older brothers, possibly feeling guilty over his mother's death, and just losing everything he's ever loved has turned him deranged, and I feel that a character like Elaena will just keep pushing him and pushing him until he finally snaps and we see his true emotions. I remember thinking up a scene in my head, where shortly after their mother's death, the three older brothers find baby Gryff lying in his crib. They feel at that moment that he's responsible, and they go so far as to take him out of his crib and toss him up in the air like a hot potato, playing catch with the poor thing. Baby Gryff is crying really loud, but the three boys don't care, and it even gets to the point where they are so sick of hearing him cry that they purposely drop him on the floor as hard as they can. Over the years, it probably got worse. I can imagine them ruthlessly beating him down, calling him insults and blaming him for their mother's death. THAT is what made Gryff what he is on the inside. With a person like Elaena, who doesn't know about Gryff's past, will most likely call him names and blame him for Arthur's death, which will remind Gryff of his past, where his brothers called him names and blamed him for their mother's death. In Gryff's mind , there is no difference between the two scenarios, and finally snapping, he takes everything out on Elaena. His mental and emotional state at this point is just too wracked for him to stop and think about what he's doing. It's only until after Gryff realizes what he's done that he just breaks down bawling his eyes out, terrified at what he's become. That's how I see Gryff as a character, a tough, unbreakable asshole on the outside, but a broken child on the inside. At that moment in time, Gryff loses all control, and he realizes that he's lost control of his emotions. Gryff is just a broken child, who deep down inside is an emotional wreck.
Being enraged and being a rapist arent the same things. I dont like this idea that because she is a woman, she is automatically going to be … moreraped. He struck me as ineffectual in any case, unless he had an army to back him up. When I did him in, he cried like a baby. That doesnt struck me as someone who has that kind of violent rage in them.
Ramsay on the other hand is a complete animal with no fear, no limits and no rules. He's done every vile thing you can think of.
I've got a question. Rodrik can tell her that its not safe here, or tell her to stay. Can you actually tell her to leave Ironrath and that cutscene where she is being dragged doesnt happen? I choose to let her stay. So I dont know if you can prevent her capture as Rodrik.
I've got a question. Rodrik can tell her that its not safe here, or tell her to stay. Can you actually tell her to leave Ironrath and that c… moreutscene where she is being dragged doesnt happen? I choose to let her stay. So I dont know if you can prevent her capture as Rodrik.
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Exactly and Telltale are banking on this. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up a Whitehill captive regardless of what you did.
I killed Gryff too. I think she'd most likely end up being forced to marry Ludd's other son or.......OMFG Ludd! Can you imagine how great that would be! If of course we as Rodrik were able to march on over to High Point break in the doors and take Ludd's head!
Of course I don't expect Telltale to let us do something that awesome and stratifying. They will most likely rip off another character's death. So Ludd will likely end up dying on the toilet a la Tywin style - yawn.
Mira apparently had Margeary's favour, fat lot of use that was.
Ah that was his name, I couldn't remember earlier.
Also the Gleanmores don't have Tyrell backing - they're Stark backing. A house like the Tyrells (in the current climate) can put pressure on just about everybody, especially considering Margaery was about to become queen.
Tyrells won't care about anything that happens to the gleamers (or Forresters. Or glovers, or whitehills... we're small fry)
Exactly.
Is everyone assuming she left Ironrath and is safe if Asher is alive? Last we see of her she is sauntering back inside after seeing Rodrik.
I saw the outcome where she is taken, it certainly doesn't look good. I could see Rodrik searching for her and eventually finding her dead. But as the person above me said, it really depends on whether Gryff or Ludd are alive.
sad because it's true
I'm pretty sure I heard her screaming if Asher is still alive.
Luckily Gryff was killed on my play through
Sadly, Gryff's still alive in my playthrough. But, under his leadership, House Whitehill will most likely die out quickly.
I don't think Gryff will be the next lord, I think Torren or however you spell his name, becomes the new Lord.
That could definitely happen, but I think Torren would have to kill Gryff to become lord in Season 2. I doubt that Gryff would just kindly lie down and be obedient to Torren just like that, especially after what happened to Ludd and his desire to kill the surviving brother. I think Torren would have to stage a coup against Gryff to tale control of House Whitehill.
I think that is possible as well, since Gwyn said that, Torren and Gryff don't get along.
That's the only plausible way to explain Torren's rise to leadership. The ideal role for Torren in Season 2 for me would be that he is the commander of Gryff's elite guard, but he doesn't always follow Gryff's orders. I feel that if he were to be shown as The Dragon to Gryff instead of The Big Bad of Season 2, they could make his character more interesting and could elaborate on him more since he would be shown prominently. That is, if they even plan to show him off in Season 2.
heh heh heh gryff wont be raping anyone...at least not in my ending xD i killed that fucker and saved ryon.
I really cant see that happening, especially not a rape. Theres been nothing of that kind so far, except for veiled threats.
It would be cool if Torren was one of the The protagonist.
Do you really think that Torrhen is willing take any orders from Gryff, his younger, petulant, little brother at all?
Maybe. I feel he will only take orders from Gryff if he agrees with what his little brother is saying, which I don't think will happen often. It would be a power struggle between the two.
Torrhen is the older brother and hence is Ludd's rightful heir. On top of that, Gryff is probably less charismatic and lack the respect of his men. (In episode 3, if Rodrik refuses to stay down, some Whitehill men start to question Gryff's violent actions, and in episode 4, if Rodrik knocks Gryff to the floor, the Whitehill men ignores Gryff's orders to retaliate.) I think it's very clear who will win that power struggle, though I hope it will drastically weaken House Whitehill if it comes.
Yeah, I think that Gryff, if he's alive, will grow psychotic, or more psychotic than he already was. The soldiers will probably think bad of him and will definitely side with Torren if a civil war were to start. One things for sure though, if Gryff is alive in Season 2, you can bet Torren will dethrone him early on.
When did u think you heard her? At the same part where the Sentinel saves Asher?
I don't think so. Ludd is too smart to do this she will use her against her family and force them to obey him if they want to see her alive anymore. But that will happen just if u will kill Gryff as i did but with Asher so idk what happened if u pick rodrik.
If Ludd is killed , Gryff probably will force her to marry him and then he can f*ck her whenever he wants. (lel that's sounds pretty bad for her ahha )
Anyway, why would you want to let her stay with you when you see that you have already lost the fight against Whitehills
My guess is they're taking her to Highpoint, and what happens to her there is anyone's guess. All I know is that Elaena is bae and I will kill anyone who f*cks (literally or figuratively) with her.
House Whitehill either Strongarmed Lord Glenmore or convinced him to marry Elaena to Gryff and his Liege Lords, The Boltons, murdered Lord Glenmore's son just because his children went behind his back to get help from you. I think they would rape her as well as hold her as a Political Hostage.
Both. That is of course if you told her to stay. If you didn't, I'm sure she is a-okay.
Blood rains down from an angry sky! My Cock Rages On! MY COCK RAGES ON!
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That sounds more like Ramsay territory. Gryff is a coward and a bully but I dont believe he's a sadist.
I don't know, I think he will. Built up with rage after his father's death, he'll want to take it out on someone. Why not take it out on Elaena Glenmore, who was supposed to marry him but instead got him captured and beaten severely, depending on your choices. She also stuck by the Forrester's side, told Gryff that she would never marry him, and was defiant during all of Season 1. I think that Gryff will take out his rage on Elaena, and will not care about what happens to her after he "finishes" her.
The thing is, he won't have the throne. He is not the heir of House Whitehill, Torrhen is.
I want both of you guys to have a medal from telltale.
I always felt that Gryff definitely won't have the power over House Whitehill, but he'll try to the best of his ability. I imagine that in Season 2 we'll see Torrhen leading the house at Highpoint, but maybe they will turn Ironrath into some sort of cadet branch to House Whitehill, where Gryff will have the power over the cadet branch, but there won't be many men there because of the losses they sustained during The Battle of Ironrath. At least, that's how I think it will happen.
This is game of thrones, probably both.
Pretty sure she won't be raped. She is a noble and they are not Boltons. She is worth more alive and well. Probably a forced marriage or hostage! They do not want to provoke a war with another house since even if they won against Forrester, it costed and there is still living Forresters and the Glenmoores is historically seemingly on a good foot with each others. If the idiot hurt Eleana he asked for trouble. I even think Ramsay might ride out to kill him for causing more trouble. The more internal fighting, the weaker the Boltons become and with the turmoil in Kings Landing and a lot of dead Lannisters or exiled/disgraced Lannisters combined with the Martels and Tyrells having their chaos errupting thanks to Lannisters.
Being enraged and being a rapist arent the same things. I dont like this idea that because she is a woman, she is automatically going to be raped. He struck me as ineffectual in any case, unless he had an army to back him up. When I did him in, he cried like a baby. That doesnt struck me as someone who has that kind of violent rage in them.
Ramsay on the other hand is a complete animal with no fear, no limits and no rules. He's done every vile thing you can think of.
Gryff struck me as the broken son who is still very much a child inside. When you break his mind apart, he cries because of his past. Looking back at my claims, I've been able to come up with answers. Would Gryff as a person rape Elaena? No. Would a broken apart, filled with rage, and completely broken Gryff do it? Yes. I feel that if Gryff does rape Elaena, he will probably end up breaking out in tears and feel horrible. I felt that the Gryff we see in Season 1 is just Gryff's outer shell, and we never see his true emotional state. Inside, I feel that years of being tormented by his older brothers, possibly feeling guilty over his mother's death, and just losing everything he's ever loved has turned him deranged, and I feel that a character like Elaena will just keep pushing him and pushing him until he finally snaps and we see his true emotions. I remember thinking up a scene in my head, where shortly after their mother's death, the three older brothers find baby Gryff lying in his crib. They feel at that moment that he's responsible, and they go so far as to take him out of his crib and toss him up in the air like a hot potato, playing catch with the poor thing. Baby Gryff is crying really loud, but the three boys don't care, and it even gets to the point where they are so sick of hearing him cry that they purposely drop him on the floor as hard as they can. Over the years, it probably got worse. I can imagine them ruthlessly beating him down, calling him insults and blaming him for their mother's death. THAT is what made Gryff what he is on the inside. With a person like Elaena, who doesn't know about Gryff's past, will most likely call him names and blame him for Arthur's death, which will remind Gryff of his past, where his brothers called him names and blamed him for their mother's death. In Gryff's mind , there is no difference between the two scenarios, and finally snapping, he takes everything out on Elaena. His mental and emotional state at this point is just too wracked for him to stop and think about what he's doing. It's only until after Gryff realizes what he's done that he just breaks down bawling his eyes out, terrified at what he's become. That's how I see Gryff as a character, a tough, unbreakable asshole on the outside, but a broken child on the inside. At that moment in time, Gryff loses all control, and he realizes that he's lost control of his emotions. Gryff is just a broken child, who deep down inside is an emotional wreck.
I've got a question. Rodrik can tell her that its not safe here, or tell her to stay. Can you actually tell her to leave Ironrath and that cutscene where she is being dragged doesnt happen? I choose to let her stay. So I dont know if you can prevent her capture as Rodrik.
Listen, I´m very a undecided person and don´t have the time, so let´s agree to raping and killing at the same time, you choose which one goes first.
The game truly makes you feel shitty for being able to secure the matrimony, way to fuck her life Rodrik, literally.
Yeah, she leaves Ironrath so the Whitehills don't capture her.