Why close this thread?
Probably beating a dead horse here, but please...can we not shut down threads that actually provide some interesting theories and discussion?
This one right here: https://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/104396/why-lee-is-not-dead
Anyone who can read would notice it's not just 'another one of those threads'....but actually provided an interesting view on the topic. I too, have thought of many hidden meanings TellTale may or may not have placed in their game, and threads like these simply create interesting discussion. Just sad it was closed...that's all.
Anyway, not a mod and I get that, just not sure why any mention of Lee being alive means an instant shut down. Some topics about his death are quite interesting. I understand the immature ones though that just refuse to see their favourite character die...shut those down haha.
This theory has actually been discussed somewhere before, I like the addition to this, in that Lee starts the story in chains, and ends in them. His 'cycle', as such, or redemption. The 'AJ is a (metaphorical) reincarnation of Lee' is also very interesting, in that Lee was a 'guardian angel' figure to Clementine in Season 1, and the roles reverse in Season 2, as Clementine looks over AJ.
These are just small thoughts, not necessarily what I believe, but interesting to ponder on.
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Sorry mate, but I can't stand theories of Lee being alive, we all know it won't ever happen. If this happens, then it would be the biggest mistake Telltale ever made.
It doesn't provide an interesting topic for discussion. Lee is dead. I can predict what the thread looks like because it'll probably be the same as all the others.
First ten comments: 'Lee is dead, get over it.'
Then one comment: 'omg clem moved the gun up before shooting omfg lee alive confirm also his arms form a triangle illuminati and half life 3 confirm!'
After that more comments telling OP just why exactly Lee is dead and gone. I don't see how that provides an interesting discussion, and I'm pretty sure that was the main reason why it was closed
No, it's not an interesting discussion. It will be riddled with comments where you see the 'Lee is dead' people arguing with the 'Lee is not dead' people.
What you call an interesting discussion everyone else calls. Ignoring the facts
But it's not actually even about the scene when Lee dies, are any of you even reading the thread? I know 'Lee is dead', i'm not ignoring that. But there's nothing wrong with having a bit of creativity and thinking of different scenarios of how the story played out. Lee being a mentally unstable character all along, is interesting. You don't have to take it as the 'literal' point of the story, I sure don't, but damn. Read first.
Then make a thread which is titled "What would have happened if didn't die?"
It literally says lee-is-not-dead in the link. So I didn't bother reading. I'm pretty sure most people on here would do the same nowadays. If you have an actual discussion worthy topic, then don't call it 'Lee is not dead' if that isn't even what the topic is about, because it will repel people instead of attracting them.
What's funny is you can tell who didn't actually read the topic. It had to do with an in depth look at the chance of Lee being insane, and that everyone including Clementine, and the zombies were part of his mental breakdown
The only problem being, Robert Kirkman confirmed that Rick is not in a coma, and Lee would've had to dream about the same people that Rick encountered in real life, such as Glenn, Hershel, Shawn and the entire Greene farm.
And that's fine to bring up in an argument against. I posted the topic for talk, and speculation. There are plenty of dumb theories that aren't closed. p.s. Do you think Kirkman would tell the truth if someone figured out the end of his story long before he was finished?
"interesting theories and discussion" and "why Lee is not dead" doesn't go well together, my friend.
Feel free for you all to keep discussing the ambiguity of a damn title rather than actually contribute to the topic presented. Of course the title is poor, but i'm not going to sit here and argue about 5 damn words. I'd much rather discuss the creativity of a theory that is about Lee being a mentally unstable individual, which as I've stated, isn't necessarily true, but is 'interesting' to discuss...but lost when the thread was shut, as clearly the mod can't read either. If the title is honestly that bad, a simple edit instead of a complete close could've solved it. The OP stated from the very start that Lee was not dead, the opening scene of the first episode is completely different to what he presented. It doesn't even have anything to do with the ending, the title just makes you feel that way. Yet again, read.
Anyway...have a bit of imagination folks. Here's some videos I found in about 2 seconds that might open your eyes a bit too different interpretations and having a bit of fun with a creative work:
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Actually...haven't seen this guys videos before. Might as well check them out.
The thing is, you're saying what if, you can't fully back up a theory just with possibility/unlikelihood, I would love for Lee to have survived but I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed that he's dead.
I'm not trying to prove or back up anything. Just exploring the way a story can be told, I've said that. Not everything has to be black and white. I know Lee is dead, I know the story is how it is and that is completely the way I believe it happened. But it doesn't mean we can't look at other interpretations, even just for a bit of fun. I'm not forcing you...I don't want Lee back. He's dead, 100%, decomposed, bullet to the head, dead.
I can't believe people find what I'm trying to point out, that hard to understand. "What if" scenarios if you like...it doesn't mean they're true. I have never once said that, nor have never once said I believe Lee is alive.
These threads come up a lot, but Lee was confirmed to be dead by the season one co-leader Jake Rodkin.
It can't all be a nightmare, or a hallucination, as he's been confirmed to be dead by the season one co-creator. There is also no cure, and there is no possible means of resurrection. People can't come back from the dead in The Walking Dead universe, and Telltale has to stay true to the rules of that universe, especially since the creator of The Walking Dead, Robert Kirkman, is involved in making sure the story stays true to the greater universe of The Walking Dead.
So, since Lee's been confirmed to be dead by the co-creator of Telltale's The Walking Dead, he can't come back. He's either a zombie or dead (and zombies eventually rot in this universe, albeit more slowly than other corpses, so he's completely dead, or soon will be, either way). There's no debate to be had here.
Also confirmed by the voice actors who played Lee and Clementine who were in turn told that Lee was going to die from around Episode 3 by the writer Sean.