If Richonne isn't confirmed this season, I will eat shit. Luckily, I picked up a method from that fucking orgasmic episode.
“If you have to eat shit, best not to nibble. Bite, chew, swallow, repeat.”
Well not quite, i feel they kind of glorified rick in the tv version a lot more. In the comics Jessie is screaming and begging rick for help and he just ditches her after telling her to leave sam. In this one shes just kind of broken and stood there.
They did it frame for frame. It was amazing. I can't wait to see Carl after this, he's going to chance.
I was still so shocked they did it, I thought it would be the same as Rick losing a hand, it'd be to hard to do
It seems like Carl had no idea he had been shot. He didn't scream or anything, which is kind of… unrealistic? -says the person in a zombie game forum-
Carl was just going to ask, "Dad, is it raining? My face is wet and chilly."
Well not quite, i feel they kind of glorified rick in the tv version a lot more. In the comics Jessie is screaming and begging rick for help and he just ditches her after telling her to leave sam. In this one shes just kind of broken and stood there.
I was just thinking about that woman who was stabbed in the back of her neck when she was mugged when I was reading your comment. If I recall, she walked all the way home and didn't even realize that she had a knife sticking out of her neck the entire time.
It could've been shock. Sometimes people who have been shot or stabbed don't realize it because of the adrenaline in their bodies from fight… more or flight; I think it blocks out from them feeling the pain. There was an incident of a woman who was mugged and had a knife sticking out of her back and she had no idea it was there at first.
Watched the show for some popcorn entertainment and when I have nothing better to do. Didn't bother watching the rest of that ep because I already knew what was going to happen (Rick and his grew escaped the walkers and found some new safe haven, or will do in the next ep). Not a fan of Rick or any of his crew (man people complain about season 2 game characters... Rick's crew make them seem like amazingly writtern characters imo). Only reason i'd ever watch now is to see Rick or any of his crew members taken down. The fact that most of them are still intact is a joke as it is.
Wow, not a Rick fan huh? Well, they followed this from the comic pretty well, and Rick's plan was good as any. He didnt get them killed, the… moreir panic did. You sound like youre not a fan of the show period lol.
Eta: I have to stop trying to type everything on my Ipad mini. It make me look like an idiot who cant spell or make complete sentences lol
Watched the show for some popcorn entertainment and when I have nothing better to do. Didn't bother watching the rest of that ep because I a… morelready knew what was going to happen (Rick and his grew escaped the walkers and found some new safe haven, or will do in the next ep). Not a fan of Rick or any of his crew (man people complain about season 2 game characters... Rick's crew make them seem like amazingly writtern characters imo). Only reason i'd ever watch now is to see Rick or any of his crew members taken down. The fact that most of them are still intact is a joke as it is.
@Lilacsbloom@RichWalk123@Deltino@lottii-lu@DaveTheArakin I've read lots of accounts in which people state that they couldn't feel pain due to shock (excuse my memory, haha). That's most likely the reason why Carl didn't express pain, as you all said. I'm guessing that's an evolutionary trait so that the person can get away from danger before tending to their wound.
An interesting account was about a girl who got lost in the woods with a broken leg. She tied a wooden plank to it, and spent two days looking for someone, without feeling a single minute of pain. As soon as she had come across a group of hikers and had made sure that they had seen her, she collapsed on the floor, and was taken to a hospital. I read this a couple of years ago, no I'm not so sure about its accuracy.
It's how it will end eventually. When Rick or a key member of his crew gets killed, the show will have my full attention again. His brat losing an eye is not enough for me.
because I already knew what was going to happen (Rick and his grew escaped the walkers and found some new safe haven, or will do in the next ep).
...that's not how this episode ends.
I kind of like that they scrapped the initial idea.
This way, it places a little, tiny, small bit of blame on Michonne for Carl getting hurt. If she had stabbed Ron in the head with her katana, that random shot couldn't have been fired.
So according to this interview, with Chandler Riggs,the scene where Carl get’s his eye blown out, Carl was originally going to save Rick's l… moreife by taking a bullet from him:
How different will the new Carl be? In the comics, he's much more hardened but that's already happened a lot here.
It's a big thing for him, especially since originally in the scripts it wasn't just a stray shot from Ron. It was very quick when we shot it; it was Ron aiming the gun at Rick and Carl standing up and taking the bullet for Rick and essentially saving Rick's life. They edited it in a different and more innocent way, which is really cool. It'll be cool to see how it ends up turning out.
I'm actually kind of disappointed they edited it, if I'm all honest.
Agreed. As you said, in the comic version, Jessie was still somewhat human-looking, so that rapid moral dilemma was a lot tougher to answer.
"Oh, she's begging for help! But she doesn't let go of Carl! But she's generic romantic interest, I can't leave her! Oh, but Carl's about to get bitten. Okay. Get your shit together, Rick! Chopping in 3, 2, 1--"
Well not quite, i feel they kind of glorified rick in the tv version a lot more. In the comics Jessie is screaming and begging rick for help and he just ditches her after telling her to leave sam. In this one shes just kind of broken and stood there.
It's how it will end eventually. When Rick or a key member of his crew gets killed, the show will have my full attention again. His brat losing an eye is not enough for me.
Yeah, I think its pretty realistic and more common than people think. The body is weird. I believe it was the same thing in the comic, Carl didnt scream or anything, just looked stunned, then fell over.
It could've been shock. Sometimes people who have been shot or stabbed don't realize it because of the adrenaline in their bodies from fight… more or flight; I think it blocks out from them feeling the pain. There was an incident of a woman who was mugged and had a knife sticking out of her back and she had no idea it was there at first.
I thought you were going to say she was to blame for stabbing Ron at all, causing him to shoot wild. In either case, its not really her fault, just unfortunate happenstance. I never thought I would see Michonne kill a child but she doesnt hesitate when it comes to protecting her family.
I kind of like that they scrapped the initial idea.
This way, it places a little, tiny, small bit of blame on Michonne for Carl getting hurt. If she had stabbed Ron in the head with her katana, that random shot couldn't have been fired.
Not only can the show survive without him, but it will be better without him if the writers step up. The man himself dying is most likely not gonna happen but i'm still hoping for one of his crew to get killed off soon.
They'll kill someone major before the end of the season, they usually do in the second half. I'm not sure who you consider to be part of his crew? Which ones are they
Not only can the show survive without him, but it will be better without him if the writers step up. The man himself dying is most likely not gonna happen but i'm still hoping for one of his crew to get killed off soon.
I'm hoping Carl's going to go dark side again soon. He's my favourite character and I find him much more interesting in darkness. What could… more be an interesting dynamic is that it seems Rick is regaining his humanity whereas Carl might just start losing his. It wasn't that long ago that it was the other way around.
Not only can the show survive without him, but it will be better without him if the writers step up
Yeah sorry but no
Killing Rick wouldn't be 'stepping up', it'd be taking a huge steaming crap all over the source material, which the writers have tried to avoid doing so far, for better or worse
Not only can the show survive without him, but it will be better without him if the writers step up. The man himself dying is most likely not gonna happen but i'm still hoping for one of his crew to get killed off soon.
I kinda thought they would still have Carl loose his eye, unlike Rick's hand, its a lot easier to just put an eye patch on then having to make a hand look missing.
They did it frame for frame. It was amazing. I can't wait to see Carl after this, he's going to chance.
I was still so shocked they did it, I thought it would be the same as Rick losing a hand, it'd be to hard to do
I wasn't sure of the extend of face explosion Carl would have, it's a pretty good gun shot wound tbh, and like you say, eyepatch.
Well, massive amount of bandages for a while
I kinda thought they would still have Carl loose his eye, unlike Rick's hand, its a lot easier to just put an eye patch on then having to make a hand look missing.
This is more or less his inner circle. Some no mark like Eugine dying would not cut it for me. Killing one of the other more newer members that hang around with him (Father Gabriel, Abraham) is not going to be good enough either.
They'll kill someone major before the end of the season, they usually do in the second half. I'm not sure who you consider to be part of his crew? Which ones are they
Not only can the show survive without him, but it will be better without him if the writers step up
Yeah sorry but no
Killing Ric… morek wouldn't be 'stepping up', it'd be taking a huge steaming crap all over the source material, which the writers have tried to avoid doing so far, for better or worse
Actually the shot would have been fired even if she had done the head chop thing. I forget the term but basically when you die from an attack your body recieves a jolt of energy causing your fingers to twich. So aslong as he had a finger on the trigger it was very likely he would get a shot.
I kind of like that they scrapped the initial idea.
This way, it places a little, tiny, small bit of blame on Michonne for Carl getting hurt. If she had stabbed Ron in the head with her katana, that random shot couldn't have been fired.
Man, just around halfway through the episode. Don't know if I can watch anymore after seeing that boring motherfucker Rick win again and get… more another family killed with his "genius" plan. Was hoping the kid would get his revenge by shooting Rick but unfortunately he hesitated and gave Rick's henchwoman (who might as well be a zombie considering her lack of personality) a chance to get to him. Good that his brat lost an eye. Obviously not enough, but this guy has been winning for way too long. And why the fuck is Daryl still even in the show? TI thought it would be impossible to have less personality than this dude but he is still somehow beaten by Michonne as boringest character in the show.
Can AMC fire a few people and just have Seth Hoffman write most of the episodes alongside Gimple? I checked out his other credits, and damn, the dude's got some good ones under his name. "No Way Out", "Too Far Gone", "The Distance", "JSS", and a slew of good to great episodes he co-wrote, like "Us", "Claimed", "Self-Help", and "Conquer". "Crossed" is his only average episode, but that's more to blame on the hospital arc it was a part of. I mean, you look at that, and then you look at the people who have "Still" and "Now" to their credits, and it's like... lol. Speaking of which, Angela Kang and Corey Reed (the respective writers) are handling next week's episode together... god help us all.
But seriously, great episode and the second half of season 6 instantly starts off with miles more promise than most of the first half. There are certain plot points I don't exactly forgive from the first half, but this episode made perfect use of pretty much every scrap of setup from the first half that I don't feel as disappointed as I was before. Mind you, when this is all over, Season 6 will definitely be a big mixed bag of some of the series' greatest and worst moments, but for right now, I'm more than pleased with the results we got in the end.
I wasn't sure of the extend of face explosion Carl would have, it's a pretty good gun shot wound tbh, and like you say, eyepatch.
Well, massive amount of bandages for a while
Can AMC fire a few people and just have Seth Hoffman write most of the episodes alongside Gimple? I checked out his other credits, and damn,… more the dude's got some good ones under his name. "No Way Out", "Too Far Gone", "The Distance", "JSS", and a slew of good to great episodes he co-wrote, like "Us", "Claimed", "Self-Help", and "Conquer". "Crossed" is his only average episode, but that's more to blame on the hospital arc it was a part of. I mean, you look at that, and then you look at the people who have "Still" and "Now" to their credits, and it's like... lol. Speaking of which, Angela Kang and Corey Reed (the respective writers) are handling next week's episode together... god help us all.
But seriously, great episode and the second half of season 6 instantly starts off with miles more promise than most of the first half. There are certain plot points I don't exactly forgive from the first half, but this episode made perfect use of pretty… [view original content]
I almost fell out of my chair when those bandits blew up. I was bracing myself for Sasha being shot. Now she and Abe can continue their love affair lol
Angela Kang and Corey Reed also co-wrote the Season 5 episode "Four Walls and a Roof," one of the best episodes of Season 5. Corey Reed has also written "Consumed" and "Forget" from Season 5, both great episodes. Angela Kang has also written some pretty good episodes, such as "Judge, Jury, Executioner," (Season 2) "Say the Word," (Season 3) "A" (Season 4) "Try," (Season 5) and "Thank You" (Season 6). Both are good and talented writers, but sometimes, maybe they just don't have the right story material to make the episode interesting. Even if someone like Gimple wrote an episode like "Now," it wouldn't be a good episode because there wasn't enough material to the episode that could have made it interesting, but at the same time, it served it's purpose, which was to give some of the characters development and set up a new story arc. And let's face it, even the best writers have bad episodes. Gimple, while he has episodes like "Clear" and "The Grove" to his name, has also written episodes like "Hounded" and "30 Days Without an Accident." As you stated, Seth Hoffman had written the episode "Crossed." Matthew Negrete has written episodes like "First Time Again" and "Indifference," but at the same time, has written episodes like "Start to Finish" and "Slabtown." All the writers on the show are good, even if they have a couple of bad episodes, not every episode can be a "Too Far Gone" or a "No Sanctuary," or a "No Way Out."
Can AMC fire a few people and just have Seth Hoffman write most of the episodes alongside Gimple? I checked out his other credits, and damn,… more the dude's got some good ones under his name. "No Way Out", "Too Far Gone", "The Distance", "JSS", and a slew of good to great episodes he co-wrote, like "Us", "Claimed", "Self-Help", and "Conquer". "Crossed" is his only average episode, but that's more to blame on the hospital arc it was a part of. I mean, you look at that, and then you look at the people who have "Still" and "Now" to their credits, and it's like... lol. Speaking of which, Angela Kang and Corey Reed (the respective writers) are handling next week's episode together... god help us all.
But seriously, great episode and the second half of season 6 instantly starts off with miles more promise than most of the first half. There are certain plot points I don't exactly forgive from the first half, but this episode made perfect use of pretty… [view original content]
Angela Kang and Corey Reed also co-wrote the Season 5 episode "Four Walls and a Roof," one of the best episodes of Season 5. Corey Reed has … morealso written "Consumed" and "Forget" from Season 5, both great episodes. Angela Kang has also written some pretty good episodes, such as "Judge, Jury, Executioner," (Season 2) "Say the Word," (Season 3) "A" (Season 4) "Try," (Season 5) and "Thank You" (Season 6). Both are good and talented writers, but sometimes, maybe they just don't have the right story material to make the episode interesting. Even if someone like Gimple wrote an episode like "Now," it wouldn't be a good episode because there wasn't enough material to the episode that could have made it interesting, but at the same time, it served it's purpose, which was to give some of the characters development and set up a new story arc. And let's face it, even the best writers have bad episodes. Gimple, while he has episodes like "Clear" and "The G… [view original content]
Did you like his character? I wasn't the biggest fan.
My only issue with his death is that Michonne stabbed a kid with like no hesitation. Even though he was threatening Rick, I don't really like people killing kids.
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They did it frame for frame. It was amazing. I can't wait to see Carl after this, he's going to chance.
I was still so shocked they did it, I thought it would be the same as Rick losing a hand, it'd be to hard to do
It was really fast tbh.
You go, bud. Eat that shit.
Well not quite, i feel they kind of glorified rick in the tv version a lot more. In the comics Jessie is screaming and begging rick for help and he just ditches her after telling her to leave sam. In this one shes just kind of broken and stood there.
He has the same reaction in the comic and you'll be surprise what adrenaline and shock can do to dull the pain.
Still pretty close though, I like that they did the hand chop still, and the eye shot was well done
I was just thinking about that woman who was stabbed in the back of her neck when she was mugged when I was reading your comment. If I recall, she walked all the way home and didn't even realize that she had a knife sticking out of her neck the entire time.
Thankfully, she made a full recovery.
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I will. It is my destiny.
Watched the show for some popcorn entertainment and when I have nothing better to do. Didn't bother watching the rest of that ep because I already knew what was going to happen (Rick and his grew escaped the walkers and found some new safe haven, or will do in the next ep). Not a fan of Rick or any of his crew (man people complain about season 2 game characters... Rick's crew make them seem like amazingly writtern characters imo). Only reason i'd ever watch now is to see Rick or any of his crew members taken down. The fact that most of them are still intact is a joke as it is.
...that's not how this episode ends.
@Lilacsbloom @RichWalk123 @Deltino @lottii-lu @DaveTheArakin I've read lots of accounts in which people state that they couldn't feel pain due to shock (excuse my memory, haha). That's most likely the reason why Carl didn't express pain, as you all said. I'm guessing that's an evolutionary trait so that the person can get away from danger before tending to their wound.
An interesting account was about a girl who got lost in the woods with a broken leg. She tied a wooden plank to it, and spent two days looking for someone, without feeling a single minute of pain. As soon as she had come across a group of hikers and had made sure that they had seen her, she collapsed on the floor, and was taken to a hospital. I read this a couple of years ago, no I'm not so sure about its accuracy.
It's how it will end eventually. When Rick or a key member of his crew gets killed, the show will have my full attention again. His brat losing an eye is not enough for me.
I kind of like that they scrapped the initial idea.
This way, it places a little, tiny, small bit of blame on Michonne for Carl getting hurt. If she had stabbed Ron in the head with her katana, that random shot couldn't have been fired.
Agreed. As you said, in the comic version, Jessie was still somewhat human-looking, so that rapid moral dilemma was a lot tougher to answer.
"Oh, she's begging for help! But she doesn't let go of Carl! But she's generic romantic interest, I can't leave her! Oh, but Carl's about to get bitten. Okay. Get your shit together, Rick! Chopping in 3, 2, 1--"
To be honest, now that this GIFs play the scene a little slower, it looks like they're just swinging their arms from side to side, LOL.
The day Rick dies will be the day the show calls it quits. Then you wont have to bother.
Yeah, I think its pretty realistic and more common than people think. The body is weird. I believe it was the same thing in the comic, Carl didnt scream or anything, just looked stunned, then fell over.
I thought you were going to say she was to blame for stabbing Ron at all, causing him to shoot wild. In either case, its not really her fault, just unfortunate happenstance. I never thought I would see Michonne kill a child but she doesnt hesitate when it comes to protecting her family.
Not only can the show survive without him, but it will be better without him if the writers step up. The man himself dying is most likely not gonna happen but i'm still hoping for one of his crew to get killed off soon.
They'll kill someone major before the end of the season, they usually do in the second half. I'm not sure who you consider to be part of his crew? Which ones are they
It will comback i think especially now that Carl needs an eyepatch.......
Yeah sorry but no
Killing Rick wouldn't be 'stepping up', it'd be taking a huge steaming crap all over the source material, which the writers have tried to avoid doing so far, for better or worse
I kinda thought they would still have Carl loose his eye, unlike Rick's hand, its a lot easier to just put an eye patch on then having to make a hand look missing.
I wasn't sure of the extend of face explosion Carl would have, it's a pretty good gun shot wound tbh, and like you say, eyepatch.
Well, massive amount of bandages for a while
Eye only saw half of it*
lol....
I'll go.
Key members of his group for me are:
Michonne
Daryl
Carol
Glenn
Carl
Judith
Maggie
Rick himself obviously
This is more or less his inner circle. Some no mark like Eugine dying would not cut it for me. Killing one of the other more newer members that hang around with him (Father Gabriel, Abraham) is not going to be good enough either.
I don't follow or care about the comics. Just going off what I see on the show.
Actually the shot would have been fired even if she had done the head chop thing. I forget the term but basically when you die from an attack your body recieves a jolt of energy causing your fingers to twich. So aslong as he had a finger on the trigger it was very likely he would get a shot.
Yes. It was fucking hilarious.
You must be a real blast to be around.
Can AMC fire a few people and just have Seth Hoffman write most of the episodes alongside Gimple? I checked out his other credits, and damn, the dude's got some good ones under his name. "No Way Out", "Too Far Gone", "The Distance", "JSS", and a slew of good to great episodes he co-wrote, like "Us", "Claimed", "Self-Help", and "Conquer". "Crossed" is his only average episode, but that's more to blame on the hospital arc it was a part of. I mean, you look at that, and then you look at the people who have "Still" and "Now" to their credits, and it's like... lol. Speaking of which, Angela Kang and Corey Reed (the respective writers) are handling next week's episode together... god help us all.
But seriously, great episode and the second half of season 6 instantly starts off with miles more promise than most of the first half. There are certain plot points I don't exactly forgive from the first half, but this episode made perfect use of pretty much every scrap of setup from the first half that I don't feel as disappointed as I was before. Mind you, when this is all over, Season 6 will definitely be a big mixed bag of some of the series' greatest and worst moments, but for right now, I'm more than pleased with the results we got in the end.
I bet his little girlfriend will be impressed by his badass eyepatch.
What plot points?
I almost fell out of my chair when those bandits blew up. I was bracing myself for Sasha being shot. Now she and Abe can continue their love affair lol
Angela Kang and Corey Reed also co-wrote the Season 5 episode "Four Walls and a Roof," one of the best episodes of Season 5. Corey Reed has also written "Consumed" and "Forget" from Season 5, both great episodes. Angela Kang has also written some pretty good episodes, such as "Judge, Jury, Executioner," (Season 2) "Say the Word," (Season 3) "A" (Season 4) "Try," (Season 5) and "Thank You" (Season 6). Both are good and talented writers, but sometimes, maybe they just don't have the right story material to make the episode interesting. Even if someone like Gimple wrote an episode like "Now," it wouldn't be a good episode because there wasn't enough material to the episode that could have made it interesting, but at the same time, it served it's purpose, which was to give some of the characters development and set up a new story arc. And let's face it, even the best writers have bad episodes. Gimple, while he has episodes like "Clear" and "The Grove" to his name, has also written episodes like "Hounded" and "30 Days Without an Accident." As you stated, Seth Hoffman had written the episode "Crossed." Matthew Negrete has written episodes like "First Time Again" and "Indifference," but at the same time, has written episodes like "Start to Finish" and "Slabtown." All the writers on the show are good, even if they have a couple of bad episodes, not every episode can be a "Too Far Gone" or a "No Sanctuary," or a "No Way Out."
-whispers- He was probably blinded by confirmation bias.
Am I the only one that is super pissed that Ron died?
Did you like his character? I wasn't the biggest fan.
My only issue with his death is that Michonne stabbed a kid with like no hesitation. Even though he was threatening Rick, I don't really like people killing kids.