So it's been 2 years since I finished Season 1
And I'm still crying about Lee's and Katjaa's death... ;( what do i doo
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And I'm still crying about Lee's and Katjaa's death... ;( what do i doo
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Uh, not cry? You'll dehydrate yourself love.
Think about the girl you died to protect. Feel proud of how strong and smart she became because of your teachings.
Embrace it.
I'm still not over Ben
No really, I really wanted the poor kid to make it through the season
If katjaa didn't shoot herself then lee might still be alive because clementine would have someone to talk to and katjaa would probably make sure she doesn't get kidnapped.
There are tons of "what if" scenarios, can't do anything about it.
This.
I dont see it that way, for me.... clementine was Lee's ultimate weakness, his doom, his damnation. Lee didn't deserved to die and clementine didn't deserved Lee's care and concern.
Uh, okay... Did you even like Season 1?
If Lee hadn't showed up at Clementine's house that day...this would'd happened to her
i like season 1, its my favorite telltale game, but i didn't liked the ending. Lee dying for nothing in a stupid way, he got bitten. I blame clementine for everything!
chocolate.
I never cared for chuck when I first played it, then after I finished it and re played it, I realised that he could've been a lot better then they made him. I was hoping Ben would make it through the season as I felt he had a lot of potential to turn into a better person and stronger guy. I never cared for christa and omid, when they joined, too me it ruined it. I sometimes wonder how certain characters could've turned out had they been given a chance like chuck, mark, Ben etc.
Technically. What you have said is right, unfortunately most won't agree because clementine is built as being too innocent and caring. Clementine has indirectly caused the deaths of more then one character. Ben if saved, Kenny before we found out he was alive, lee. There's 3 are all from her not listening to lee and listening to the stranger. Her stuff up, caused the main character to be bit, and 2 main supporting actors dying. Omid in season 2, for not keeping her gun with her. As Kenny said she thinks because she's a little girl she can sorry and everything is okay. And like chuck said, it doesn't matter who you are. You're a living person. Lee did die for nothing because he lost his life trying to save the mistakes clementine made. Most fans won't blame her which is the sad part about it.
If clementine doesn't shoot lee, that is what has happened to Lee thanks to her mistakes.
Imagine if there was a redo button in Lee's final moments and ended up waking up back in the police car, knowing the events that would occur... Idk...
Lee reaches his hand out, and suddenly realizes he can rewind time
Okay, I just don't see how you could like S1 if you didn't like Clem because protecting and caring for her is a big part of the game. Lee's bite was simply bad writing. It doesn't matter if you try to just look first he does the same thing and gets bitten regardless.
Death is Strange
Because it's an eight year old's fault she was manipulated and kidnapped. Victim blaming much?
Haha, nice Life is Strange reference.
Manipulated by a guy who she's never met, was told by lee and christa that his not a nice guy. And still goes behind their back after told they need to look for safety rather then search for her parents who are dead. Now, if it was Ben who had done that, he would be abused for being a idiot, but like I said, clementine can get away with it.
I loved season one, and I rarely focused on clementine. I didn't even feed her, told her the truth about her parents on every occasion. Even tried to hand her over to vernon. This is not a troll, I genuinely tried to keep away from her as possible because I like the story without her too be honest.
yeah... me too, if i were Lee.... i would've abandoned her in her fucking treehouse. She is a dead weight
listen to 'Don't Worry Be Happy'-Bobby McFerrin 24/7.
works for me when my anxiety and IED gets bad.
I still get choked up everytime I play Season one and watch the death of Lee. He was a father figure to her to the very end, taught her to survive and how to be strong. Without Lee teaching her these skills I don't think she would of survived. If he never met her sadly I think she would of became a walker if she had stayed or starved to death.
Truer words have never been spoken. Lee was a strong man, but his weakness was caring for a kid who he never had to care for. What he did for her only to have her sook and go to the stranger and not know what it would do to lee. We lose great characters and are left with shit ones
Meeting someone face to face isn't necessary for manipulation. And SHE. IS . EIGHT. And eight year old child is incredibly susceptible to this kind of mind warping , especially since the stranger told her he had her parents at the hotel with him.
Lee and Christa told her he was not a good man. Lee also saved her, cared for her and supported her. She talks to this guy on a radio, without even seeing him or knowing him. And she betrays lee by believing someone she doesn't know. You say she's 8. Well I say that it doesn't matter, do you think a walker would show mercy to a little kid? Lee taught her as good as he could about how to live in the ZA. And tried to say that they needed to find a boat for safety, and clementine runs off with a unstable man which went against everything the group had planned and got half the group killed over her negligence. Sorry, but clementine was warned and directed and she still disobeyed. Saying sorry won't bring back their lives.
It's hard playing the end of the game knowing that Clem's life is gonna get alot more shitty before it gets better
And if the police officer didn't crash the car Lee might have survived elsewhere, or died sooner. Clementine would have starved. Shawn might not have made it back and Hershel would die because he was unprepared. Kenny and his family could have reached Macon, but the pharmacy could have been overrun.
'What if'-scenarios don't really make sense here.
Walkers don't have anything to do with this discussion. She was manipulated by a LIVING person , not a rotting corpse. And do you remember how naïve Season One Clem was? She probably thought Christa and Lee just needed to get to know the stranger.
Manipulated? Yes.
Kidnapped? Not at all. It was heavily hinted that Clementine got out of Fivel's mansion by herself, not against her will.
You want my honest opinion? What if scenarios are bullshit, and all they tend to accomplish at the end of the day is providing people a way to blame characters they specifically don't like
You can literally twist the whole game around in a way that it suits the blame to any character. Wanna blame Kenny? Go ahead. Ben? Go ahead. Clementine? Go ahead. Or how about the more ridiculous options like the cop at the beginning or Omid? Sure, that works too
I mean okay, I'll admit there's a few instances where 'what if' scenarios provide some interesting conversation, but most of the time they just devolve into people belligerently using characters or events as scapegoats for everything
The walker reference was towards the fact that you can't treat her like a little kid. It doesn't matter in a ZA, she's a living person, she can't be a liability, she was learnt by lee to be a adult. And she fucked it by going by his back. Considering that lee knew that he was lying about her parents proves he was lying. My Lee told clementine every time her parents were dead, and through all the rough times Lee and her went through. She still betrayed him. Lee lost his life protecting her when the reality is that he died from her negligence.
Had she listened to him. He wouldn't of got bit looking for her.
You know what, this argument is going to go absolutely nowhere, and you guys should just quit while you're ahead
one of you is going to end up getting high blood pressure or something
Life is... so not fair.
Dude I cry every single time I see that ending.
I only come on here for a few moments of my day. Hardly anything to get worried over.
I agree with you, clementine sold the entire group to a guy she never saw and never mentioned anything! she got ben killed in my gameplay, we lost kenny in the alley, got omid killed, the only reason why everyone likes her its because they still feel pity for her because of Lee's death, they are all blind by their loyalty to Lee.