Was Brother Ray (Ian McShane) and his commune the only ones that died in this episode? I don't think there were any other deaths - so that will be the Beautiful Death.
Was Brother Ray (Ian McShane) and his commune the only ones that died in this episode? I don't think there were any other deaths - so that will be the Beautiful Death.
I don't think he ever said he hated it. All I've heard is that he was disappointed before filming that he wouldn't get to work with Dance or Dillane who are his old pals, and when he kinda spoiled the Hound's return and people got mad he was like "What's the big deal? It's just tits and dragons." It's not really saying he'd hate it, just that he is not fan of the show.
Yeah, I was talking about the series at the start of my post.
But you talked about the books in the end of it :P
Seeing Stannis didn't care that fake Arya was already married to a Bolton, I don't think he would hold a grudge if he had the opportunity of saving Sansa at some point.
True, what I mean was just that as far as I remember he wasn't very understanding towards Sansa, basically having a similar perspective that some fans that hate Sansa have: that she's a traitor.
I think it was with Jon Snow he called her like that. He called her Lady lannister only from a political POV, not that he acknowledge her for a wishful traitor who married the family who murdered her dad. But hey, it's talking about tiny details here and you're (of course) free to have your opinion on the matter.
In books it's fake Arya he's rescuying. To maintain his support with the northerners and in order to thank Jon Snow for "giving" him the Nor… morethern clans; once he had her back he sent her to the Wall to encounter her "half brother". Now Sansa and Jeyne Poole are two characters melted in the series.
Yeah, I was talking about the series at the start of my post.
And yeah, I do believe that Stannis would've made Sansa the Wardeness, if only because he couldn't persuade Jon to take the job.
You've got to put this quote in context. I couldn't find it but as I remember it they're talking about the heir of Winterfell. By calling her like that, he just point that she's no valid heir for him since she's a puppet of the Lannisters, married to the Dwarf.
True, what I mean was just that as far as I remember he wasn't very understanding towards Sansa, basically having a similar perspective that some fans that hate Sansa have: that she's a traitor.
Yeah, I was talking about the series at the start of my post.
But you talked about the books in the end of it :P
Seeing Stannis d… moreidn't care that fake Arya was already married to a Bolton, I don't think he would hold a grudge if he had the opportunity of saving Sansa at some point.
True, what I mean was just that as far as I remember he wasn't very understanding towards Sansa, basically having a similar perspective that some fans that hate Sansa have: that she's a traitor.
I think it was with Jon Snow he called her like that. He called her Lady lannister only from a political POV, not that he acknowledge her for a wishful traitor who married the family who murdered her dad. But hey, it's talking about tiny details here and you're (of course) free to have your opinion on the matter.
I don't think he ever said he hated it. All I've heard is that he was disappointed before filming that he wouldn't get to work with Dance or… more Dillane who are his old pals, and when he kinda spoiled the Hound's return and people got mad he was like "What's the big deal? It's just tits and dragons." It's not really saying he'd hate it, just that he is not fan of the show.
Of course I could've missed something.
LEAVE STANNIS ALONE!
Nah, seriously, let the character rest in peace. It's like in every episode someone is shitting on him. Today is ung… morerateful Sansa. it's not like Stannis was trying to save you, hey.
Btw, I guess that guy in the brotherhood without banner is Lemoncloak from the books, because of... the color of his coat.
Seeing how it turns with the brotherhood without banners (no lady Stoneheart) and how their men praise the Lord of the Light I guess they will make Thoros of Myr or whoever in charge a bloody fanatic. That's the smell of it anyway.
I just read this EW's interview of Ian McShane and he actually seems very positive. He'll even be in the commentary track for this episode in the Blu-ray (which I can't wait to see/hear) and I doubt that's something he'd be obliged to do - I think Dillane for example never did those (I could be wrong though).
No pressure! It’s the most popular TV show in the world, isn’t it? I enjoyed meeting [showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss] – nobody ever expects the kind of reaction this has gotten. It’s kind of like Deadwood when we started off, but they’ve managed to go another three seasons. It’s interesting because you’re a part of the show, but you’re not part of the show. I only needed Rory [for my scenes], so I didn’t meet anybody else in it.
That's basically his answer to how it was like to work on GoT.
I don't think he ever said he hated it. All I've heard is that he was disappointed before filming that he wouldn't get to work with Dance or… more Dillane who are his old pals, and when he kinda spoiled the Hound's return and people got mad he was like "What's the big deal? It's just tits and dragons." It's not really saying he'd hate it, just that he is not fan of the show.
Of course I could've missed something.
I think Brienne is gonna come rescue Blackfish but he won't be able to come somehow and instead he'll give a letter to her wrote by Robb Stark , that legitimize Jon as a Stark . Some sort of royal decree
alright, screw it. just like trying to figuring out the space time continuum from the hodor episode my wrecking my brain with all the possibilities in the Arya Story. what are some of y'alls theories? one good one, well not a theory more like a coincidence, is that Arya may lose her availability to have kids so it was kinda parallel how she told Ned that she didnt want to be a Lady. Ned told her she was gonna get married and have kids, but she didnt want that. now maybe that didnt mean she didnt want kids but just not be like what Sansa wanted to be at first. idk i found that interesting? any ideas??
Some people are hating on the episode and I don't understan why... You can't have all episoes o fighting and, big plot twists or even big uncovers of secrets, this is an awesome build up episode. It worked the show on the majr plot points of the season.
I mean we got the Margeary scnes where we found out that she's playing the High Sparrow (like I had predicted). That is awesome, I knew Margreay wouldn't let herself get broken down like she had. SHe's not a real believer in the faith, she's a political genius she knows exactly what she has to do to get out of bad situations. NOW the things is, is the High Sparrow aware of her bluff, because that's the biggest issue, she may think she's playing him but in fact he is awere of that an his playing her. I Hope not, and I usually side with the villains :P But it's Margeray it's one of my favourite characters Hope she's being able to get her plan done.
We also got the Sandor (The Hound) plot. HE'S BACK!! I know everyone knew he woul evnetually be back, but he's back and still awesome, I sure didn't wante him to be back as a goody two shoots now just because he got saved by a priest (the guy was a priest right?). He's still the same Sandor just trying to figure out what to o with his life now, he was never mae to help others like that, to spend his life building stuff an working to help others, he has to do what he's awesome at, and that is killing and getting sh*t done. I mean it wasn't AWESOME buit it was a great return for another of my favourite characters. Now my thing is, I always expected him, as now part of the faith, bo be called upon to represent the faith in the trial by combat against the MOuntain but now I don't now. He'll search the guys from the brothehood that killed his "friends" wich leas to believe the producers might be trying to show us Lady Stoneheart somehow. I mean if she doesn't apepar right now in the show she'll never appear. But I still want to see THE CLEGANE BOWL!!
Then we had that Arya plot, were we basically saw what she was planning to do. Get back to Westeros because she never stoped being Arya Stark no matter what she and others tried to convince herself. I mean I on't understand the creepy beef between the other girl and Arya, I mean is all of that just because of the faceless God? Jesus if that's the reason that girl is as nuts as the high sparrow, she needs to calm down... But Arya will survive there's no problem with that, she'll find someone to take care of her, some people are asying the actress she saved, but it would be fun if she found THeon and Yaya.
Speaking about them we got the Theon and YAYA thing where I felt stupi for not consiering before that they would go to Daenerys, fullfilling the needs of everyone. aenerys needs a fleet, and they as Greyjoys have the ebst one in the seven kingoms an they need someone to help them reconquer the Iron Islands and she's the girl for that.
The Sansa and Jon stroy arc ust shown everyone how unexperienced they are. I mean yeah Sansa is becoming to be more and more experienced but she trusts too much in past agreements that people are actually not forced to follow... Everything she says is "your family was a follower of the starks..:" well lady Sansa, Jon is not a Stark is for what is worth neither are you. Many people will see her as a runaway bolton, but still a Bolton. I sure hope she sent that letter to Petyr or else they are screwed, blots of people saying it as to Blackfish but that's stupid, I'm sorry but it is, she already sent Brienne to speak to him why aso a raven?... Also we saw in this episoes Blackfish was willing to let his nephew die to keep the castle. People need to understan Blackfish isn't one of the STark wannabe TUllys that became a secondary house to the starks after Catelyn married Ned... THe Tullys are not even a northern house and yet most TUllys just choose to follow the starks in eveyrthing they ecided, but not Blackfish, Blackfish was a TUlly long before the STark alliance, when the TUllys where still their own house, so he will fight that castle above everything because it's the alst symbol of the power of the TUllys as a major family, also I feel some ressentment towars the people who follow the starks from his side, I'm rpety sure he wouldn't mind the problems of Jon and Sansa, who are, from his point of view, a Stark that betrayed her faily and married a Bolton and a Kid who isn't related to him in any way. SO yeah if taht letter was sent for Blackfish instea of Petyr they would have 0 help... But Petyr will go to the North as fast as he can with the Vally's army and help them win the war, and then he'll try and have Winterfell to himself somehow.
We also had that Cersei/Olleana converstaion that basically shown us that Cersei is COMPLETLY LOST, she has ZERO idea what to do now. I don't see a good future for Cersei, like Olleana said she's alone, NO ONE likes her there except her son who will do whatever Margeary tells him to do, an the MOuntain that can't save her from everything (oh and that scientist that ressurected The Mountain, he's smart) but none of this people will help her after the most likely loss of the Mountain to The Hound. Will she be killed? I hope not she's great for the show, but I don't see a way she gets saved unless Margeary wants to help her, and I'm sure she doesn't :P
I heard a complaint that she didnt seem realistic because she was too adult. I dont agree with it. I think considering what we know about the Mormont women and how kids have to grow up quickly when theyre in charge (Bran acted much the same way when he was Lord of Winterfell), it seemed realistic to me. She was just how I pictured her from the books. Also, Davos continues to be awesome and he has a way with kids. Sansa was skeptical but he is a great speaker and persuader.
Well, you could say that by taking King's Landing Stannis would've saved Sansa from the Lannisters, and by taking Winterfell he would've sav… moreed her from Boltons - but obviously that wasn't his motive in either of those battles. And if we go by the books (because I don't remember him speaking about it in the show), for what I remember Stannis didn't really respect Sansa, called her Lady Lannister and so on.
She did it wrong. Arya was able to stagger off. She didnt make sure she was dead. What kind of assassin is she? Did she even want her dead or just to suffer?
Good episode!
Pros:
* The Hound is alive, which means Cleganebowl!
* Bronn is back!
* Jaime slapping the Frey soldier
* Blackfish… more is a badass
* Lyanna Mormont was great
* Wun Wun "Snow"
* Margaery is playing the sparrows
Cons:
* The Waif stabbing Arya
She did it wrong. Arya was able to stagger off. She didnt make sure she was dead. What kind of assassin is she? Did she even want her dead or just to suffer?
You can stab people without the intentions of killing them. She could have easily cut her throat. Thats what I thought she did at first. But maybe she was just sloppy. Too eager.
I didnt think anything about her not having Needle. She wouldnt just carry it around everywhere. I figured she stashed it. I dont know about this theory. I do think that was Arya. If it was Jacquen, he wouldnt be staggering through town hurt. He wouldnt allow himself to get that wounded just as a test.
Theory time!
I believe that wasn't Arya and that Jaquan was testing the waif to see if she was gonna actually kill Arya quickly or not.
Reason I don't believe it was Arya is because I think she is much smarter than that and where was needle?
I didnt think anything about her not having Needle. She wouldnt just carry it around everywhere. I figured she stashed it. I dont know about… more this theory. I do think that was Arya. If it was Jacquen, he wouldnt be staggering through town hurt. He wouldnt allow himself to get that wounded just as a test.
Stabbing someone three times in the gut, turning the blade, then ending with your target thrown in the canal where people throw their shit/piss in it, I'm pretty sure anyone would die of this.
Now it's a story, no one would want her character dead (yet) so I guess it's for the plot she survived, not because the assassin did its job wrong.
(Btw, Jaqen asked to waif last episode: "don't make her suffer". It seems she lied when she agreed.)
She did it wrong. Arya was able to stagger off. She didnt make sure she was dead. What kind of assassin is she? Did she even want her dead or just to suffer?
I mean you remember what happened season one, right? Mini Clegane bowl.
Well who says it wouldn't make sense for it to happen again? It'll be hard to get Sandor to KL, but it's not like Jaimes not going back. I mean he has to be there when the trial by combat happens.
Loras vs Robert Strong... Just like season one. Except it turns into CleganeBowl, like season one.
I posted about that earlier how a good amount of the main 4 Starks have had some sort of thing either taken away from them or lost something. Bran and his legs, Arya with her reproductive system... And I wonder what will happen to Sansa.
alright, screw it. just like trying to figuring out the space time continuum from the hodor episode my wrecking my brain with all the possib… moreilities in the Arya Story. what are some of y'alls theories? one good one, well not a theory more like a coincidence, is that Arya may lose her availability to have kids so it was kinda parallel how she told Ned that she didnt want to be a Lady. Ned told her she was gonna get married and have kids, but she didnt want that. now maybe that didnt mean she didnt want kids but just not be like what Sansa wanted to be at first. idk i found that interesting? any ideas??
Theory time!
I believe that wasn't Arya and that Jaquan was testing the waif to see if she was gonna actually kill Arya quickly or not.
Reason I don't believe it was Arya is because I think she is much smarter than that and where was needle?
Lol, I usually don't trash other people's theories but these Arya theories are getting out of hand. Hey, how about this: Arya didn't expect the FM would come after her, she bought passage to Westeros, stopped on the bridge to look at the magnificent view and dreamt about seeing home and family again - and got surprised! Wow, quite simple and understandable isn't it? But hey, what the hell do I know - perhaps the cat fight on the bridge was between two faceless men we've never even seen before! I mean it makes no sense for the story, but it's technically possible so why the fuck not!? XD
what hasnt happened to sansa...her direwolve was unfairly killed,she was made to see her fathers execution, made a hostage in enemy lines, accused of king slaying, pimp'd by little finger, forced to marry a monster and got raped by that monster... a lot has been taken from her. her home, etc. you get the point..
That's exactly what I see happening.
I posted about that earlier how a good amount of the main 4 Starks have had some sort of thing eithe… morer taken away from them or lost something. Bran and his legs, Arya with her reproductive system... And I wonder what will happen to Sansa.
so there would be another clue... Jaquen, or who ever the fuck he is, said "dont make her suffer" or something like that. and she goes out and intentionally stabs her that way to make her suffer... but maybe we're reading too much into it.
Even Jon Snows bastard status can be seen as somewhat of a disability, especially when you are Eddard Starks supposed bastard.
And i mean, rickon was completely separated from his family. And it's not like he didn't have the same dreams that Bran was having. His disability is he's not training his Warg powers.
what hasnt happened to sansa...her direwolve was unfairly killed,she was made to see her fathers execution, made a hostage in enemy lines, a… moreccused of king slaying, pimp'd by little finger, forced to marry a monster and got raped by that monster... a lot has been taken from her. her home, etc. you get the point..
I am wondering, if we (The Forresters) are still around in Season 6 and we were given the choice. Would you join Jon and Sansa in retaking Winterfell?
I will be like, I will gladly supply three soldiers to your cause, Jon. My army consist of me (Rodrik/Asher), Royland/Duncan and Beskha. Or if we are lucky, the small army of the North Grove. So maybe around 50 men and a bear. I hope that is enough, Jon! :P
Comments
Was Brother Ray (Ian McShane) and his commune the only ones that died in this episode? I don't think there were any other deaths - so that will be the Beautiful Death.
Despite the fact that Ian reportedly hated working on the show. I thought he did a remarkable job and leaves an impression.
Where did he state that?
I don't think he ever said he hated it. All I've heard is that he was disappointed before filming that he wouldn't get to work with Dance or Dillane who are his old pals, and when he kinda spoiled the Hound's return and people got mad he was like "What's the big deal? It's just tits and dragons." It's not really saying he'd hate it, just that he is not fan of the show.
Of course I could've missed something.
But you talked about the books in the end of it :P
Seeing Stannis didn't care that fake Arya was already married to a Bolton, I don't think he would hold a grudge if he had the opportunity of saving Sansa at some point.
I think it was with Jon Snow he called her like that. He called her Lady lannister only from a political POV, not that he acknowledge her for a wishful traitor who married the family who murdered her dad. But hey, it's talking about tiny details here and you're (of course) free to have your opinion on the matter.
The amount of good acting in this episode, both big and small characters, was absolutely amazing!
Not really a strong opinion or anything, it's just how I remember it and I could well be remembering wrong
i think he confused it with DIllane.
What do you mean, the Hound and the Blackfish are alive...
Lol jk I gotchu man
I honestly confused Lyannas master at arms as a Stannis double. He had the beard and all... I almost got extra extra hype.
I thought Davos was gonna say something... Cause I definitely stopped watching to confirm if that was the Mannis or not.
This episode was all about taking a shit on the characters for what happened to them in the past. More so Robb then anyone else.
Perhaps
I just read this EW's interview of Ian McShane and he actually seems very positive. He'll even be in the commentary track for this episode in the Blu-ray (which I can't wait to see/hear) and I doubt that's something he'd be obliged to do - I think Dillane for example never did those (I could be wrong though).
That's basically his answer to how it was like to work on GoT.
Oh looks like I was wrong. That will teach me to take second hand source with a grain of salt.
He definitely sounds positive in the EW interview.
I think Brienne is gonna come rescue Blackfish but he won't be able to come somehow and instead he'll give a letter to her wrote by Robb Stark , that legitimize Jon as a Stark . Some sort of royal decree
I agree while for Stannis it's more a recurring theme through episodes. :P
CLEGANEBOWL CONFIRMED!
GET READY!
GET HYPED!
CLEGANEBOWL
I haven't been hyped for any GoT episode for a long time. Until now.
alright, screw it. just like trying to figuring out the space time continuum from the hodor episode my wrecking my brain with all the possibilities in the Arya Story. what are some of y'alls theories? one good one, well not a theory more like a coincidence, is that Arya may lose her availability to have kids so it was kinda parallel how she told Ned that she didnt want to be a Lady. Ned told her she was gonna get married and have kids, but she didnt want that. now maybe that didnt mean she didnt want kids but just not be like what Sansa wanted to be at first. idk i found that interesting? any ideas??
Some people are hating on the episode and I don't understan why... You can't have all episoes o fighting and, big plot twists or even big uncovers of secrets, this is an awesome build up episode. It worked the show on the majr plot points of the season.
I mean we got the Margeary scnes where we found out that she's playing the High Sparrow (like I had predicted). That is awesome, I knew Margreay wouldn't let herself get broken down like she had. SHe's not a real believer in the faith, she's a political genius she knows exactly what she has to do to get out of bad situations. NOW the things is, is the High Sparrow aware of her bluff, because that's the biggest issue, she may think she's playing him but in fact he is awere of that an his playing her. I Hope not, and I usually side with the villains :P But it's Margeray it's one of my favourite characters Hope she's being able to get her plan done.
We also got the Sandor (The Hound) plot. HE'S BACK!! I know everyone knew he woul evnetually be back, but he's back and still awesome, I sure didn't wante him to be back as a goody two shoots now just because he got saved by a priest (the guy was a priest right?). He's still the same Sandor just trying to figure out what to o with his life now, he was never mae to help others like that, to spend his life building stuff an working to help others, he has to do what he's awesome at, and that is killing and getting sh*t done. I mean it wasn't AWESOME buit it was a great return for another of my favourite characters. Now my thing is, I always expected him, as now part of the faith, bo be called upon to represent the faith in the trial by combat against the MOuntain but now I don't now. He'll search the guys from the brothehood that killed his "friends" wich leas to believe the producers might be trying to show us Lady Stoneheart somehow. I mean if she doesn't apepar right now in the show she'll never appear. But I still want to see THE CLEGANE BOWL!!
Then we had that Arya plot, were we basically saw what she was planning to do. Get back to Westeros because she never stoped being Arya Stark no matter what she and others tried to convince herself. I mean I on't understand the creepy beef between the other girl and Arya, I mean is all of that just because of the faceless God? Jesus if that's the reason that girl is as nuts as the high sparrow, she needs to calm down... But Arya will survive there's no problem with that, she'll find someone to take care of her, some people are asying the actress she saved, but it would be fun if she found THeon and Yaya.
Speaking about them we got the Theon and YAYA thing where I felt stupi for not consiering before that they would go to Daenerys, fullfilling the needs of everyone. aenerys needs a fleet, and they as Greyjoys have the ebst one in the seven kingoms an they need someone to help them reconquer the Iron Islands and she's the girl for that.
The Sansa and Jon stroy arc ust shown everyone how unexperienced they are. I mean yeah Sansa is becoming to be more and more experienced but she trusts too much in past agreements that people are actually not forced to follow... Everything she says is "your family was a follower of the starks..:" well lady Sansa, Jon is not a Stark is for what is worth neither are you. Many people will see her as a runaway bolton, but still a Bolton. I sure hope she sent that letter to Petyr or else they are screwed, blots of people saying it as to Blackfish but that's stupid, I'm sorry but it is, she already sent Brienne to speak to him why aso a raven?... Also we saw in this episoes Blackfish was willing to let his nephew die to keep the castle. People need to understan Blackfish isn't one of the STark wannabe TUllys that became a secondary house to the starks after Catelyn married Ned... THe Tullys are not even a northern house and yet most TUllys just choose to follow the starks in eveyrthing they ecided, but not Blackfish, Blackfish was a TUlly long before the STark alliance, when the TUllys where still their own house, so he will fight that castle above everything because it's the alst symbol of the power of the TUllys as a major family, also I feel some ressentment towars the people who follow the starks from his side, I'm rpety sure he wouldn't mind the problems of Jon and Sansa, who are, from his point of view, a Stark that betrayed her faily and married a Bolton and a Kid who isn't related to him in any way. SO yeah if taht letter was sent for Blackfish instea of Petyr they would have 0 help... But Petyr will go to the North as fast as he can with the Vally's army and help them win the war, and then he'll try and have Winterfell to himself somehow.
We also had that Cersei/Olleana converstaion that basically shown us that Cersei is COMPLETLY LOST, she has ZERO idea what to do now. I don't see a good future for Cersei, like Olleana said she's alone, NO ONE likes her there except her son who will do whatever Margeary tells him to do, an the MOuntain that can't save her from everything (oh and that scientist that ressurected The Mountain, he's smart) but none of this people will help her after the most likely loss of the Mountain to The Hound. Will she be killed? I hope not she's great for the show, but I don't see a way she gets saved unless Margeary wants to help her, and I'm sure she doesn't :P
Thank God, the Hound is alive!
I really hope Arya dosen't die
The Cleganebowl hype makes very little sense to me for several reasons but if it takes both those guys out of the picture, then Im for it.
I heard a complaint that she didnt seem realistic because she was too adult. I dont agree with it. I think considering what we know about the Mormont women and how kids have to grow up quickly when theyre in charge (Bran acted much the same way when he was Lord of Winterfell), it seemed realistic to me. She was just how I pictured her from the books. Also, Davos continues to be awesome and he has a way with kids. Sansa was skeptical but he is a great speaker and persuader.
Okay, because I didnt think that he was really that concerned about her per se, but if she happened to be rescued that would be a feather in his cap.
Good episode!
Pros:
Cons:
She did it wrong. Arya was able to stagger off. She didnt make sure she was dead. What kind of assassin is she? Did she even want her dead or just to suffer?
If she didn't want her dead, she wouldn't have stabbed Arya. So suffer, probably.
Theory time!
I believe that wasn't Arya and that Jaquan was testing the waif to see if she was gonna actually kill Arya quickly or not.
Reason I don't believe it was Arya is because I think she is much smarter than that and where was needle?
You can stab people without the intentions of killing them. She could have easily cut her throat. Thats what I thought she did at first. But maybe she was just sloppy. Too eager.
I didnt think anything about her not having Needle. She wouldnt just carry it around everywhere. I figured she stashed it. I dont know about this theory. I do think that was Arya. If it was Jacquen, he wouldnt be staggering through town hurt. He wouldnt allow himself to get that wounded just as a test.
It doesn't have to be Jaqen. It might have been another faceless men like the one who drank poison in Season 5 Episode 10
Stabbing someone three times in the gut, turning the blade, then ending with your target thrown in the canal where people throw their shit/piss in it, I'm pretty sure anyone would die of this.
Now it's a story, no one would want her character dead (yet) so I guess it's for the plot she survived, not because the assassin did its job wrong.
(Btw, Jaqen asked to waif last episode: "don't make her suffer". It seems she lied when she agreed.)
I mean you remember what happened season one, right? Mini Clegane bowl.
Well who says it wouldn't make sense for it to happen again? It'll be hard to get Sandor to KL, but it's not like Jaimes not going back. I mean he has to be there when the trial by combat happens.
Loras vs Robert Strong... Just like season one. Except it turns into CleganeBowl, like season one.
That's exactly what I see happening.
I posted about that earlier how a good amount of the main 4 Starks have had some sort of thing either taken away from them or lost something. Bran and his legs, Arya with her reproductive system... And I wonder what will happen to Sansa.
But why would they have that in the episode with no sort of clue to it being him?
Like that could only be a cool twist if it was set up. This would just be convenient
There's a theory going around saying that the Waif IS Arya. Click me!
Lol, I usually don't trash other people's theories but these Arya theories are getting out of hand. Hey, how about this: Arya didn't expect the FM would come after her, she bought passage to Westeros, stopped on the bridge to look at the magnificent view and dreamt about seeing home and family again - and got surprised! Wow, quite simple and understandable isn't it? But hey, what the hell do I know - perhaps the cat fight on the bridge was between two faceless men we've never even seen before! I mean it makes no sense for the story, but it's technically possible so why the fuck not!? XD
As much as I like the idea behind this theory, that'd be a bit too philosophical for GoT. Like on the verge of M Night Shaymalan.
Would be cool if the whole House of Black and White was just an internal struggle within Arya.
what hasnt happened to sansa...her direwolve was unfairly killed,she was made to see her fathers execution, made a hostage in enemy lines, accused of king slaying, pimp'd by little finger, forced to marry a monster and got raped by that monster... a lot has been taken from her. her home, etc. you get the point..
so there would be another clue... Jaquen, or who ever the fuck he is, said "dont make her suffer" or something like that. and she goes out and intentionally stabs her that way to make her suffer... but maybe we're reading too much into it.
Even Jon Snows bastard status can be seen as somewhat of a disability, especially when you are Eddard Starks supposed bastard.
And i mean, rickon was completely separated from his family. And it's not like he didn't have the same dreams that Bran was having. His disability is he's not training his Warg powers.
I am wondering, if we (The Forresters) are still around in Season 6 and we were given the choice. Would you join Jon and Sansa in retaking Winterfell?
I will be like, I will gladly supply three soldiers to your cause, Jon. My army consist of me (Rodrik/Asher), Royland/Duncan and Beskha. Or if we are lucky, the small army of the North Grove. So maybe around 50 men and a bear. I hope that is enough, Jon! :P