However, other communities in the comic series—obvious spoiler alert—such as the remains of Alexandria, Hilltop, Kingdom, Sanctuary, Oceanside and Stephanie's place, among the rest of unnamed communities of the network, are thriving, even if an amount of inhabitants have died.
I am willing to bet that there are people who were unnacustomed to the apocalypse that are living in one of these communities.
I'm aware of people that are settled in a community since the beginning, but being in a community isn't the solution to all of the zombie ap… moreocalypse problems. There's always rival groups, herds, inner conflict, people turning inside the community itself and supply runs that people like Sarah aren't able to deal with (although Sarah's real downfall was the loss of a loved one). (TV Show Season 6 spoilers ahead!!!) We saw what happened to Denise, Sam, Jessie, Deanna, Reg, Spencer and Nicholas that when confronted with such problems either died or had major screw ups. Hadn't Rick's group been there, and Alexandria would've been either conquered by the Wolfs or overrun by the herd because the sheltered Alexandria Safe-Zone population wasn't ready to deal with the ZA's predicaments.
I feel like if we all had a discussion about The Walking Dead game in real life it would get ugly.
Just picture us all in a conference room overlapping arguing over TellTale games.
I feel like if we all had a discussion about The Walking Dead game in real life it would get ugly.
Just picture us all in a conference room overlapping arguing over TellTale games.
Are you for real...she had the stitches for what a whole 10 seconds before the walker attack and then BAM there is the cabin group along with Carlos to check her wound...where as it is Jane who pulls Clementine out of the lake....it is Jane who is not a total idiot and tries to get her warm while Kenny is beating Arvo.
Are you for real...she had the stitches for what a whole 10 seconds before the walker attack and then BAM there is the cabin group along wit… moreh Carlos to check her wound...where as it is Jane who pulls Clementine out of the lake....it is Jane who is not a total idiot and tries to get her warm while Kenny is beating Arvo.
Part of what made season 1 and 2 so good was the characters all having different types of personalities and different strengths/weaknesses in my opinion. If everyone was just a smart, ruthless, competent survivor then there is a good chance the game would be pretty boring. I hope that this isn't the case and there are more than smart survivors around.
Some of us—and I include myself—would attempt to craft their thoughts beforehand, start speaking, stutter, cough, blush, and sit back without actually getting any point across.
I feel like if we all had a discussion about The Walking Dead game in real life it would get ugly.
Just picture us all in a conference room overlapping arguing over TellTale games.
Some of us—and I include myself—would attempt to craft their thoughts beforehand, start speaking, stutter, cough, blush, and sit back without actually getting any point across.
Comment if you can relate.
Part of what made season 1 and 2 so good was the characters all having different types of personalities and different strengths/weaknesses i… moren my opinion. If everyone was just a smart, ruthless, competent survivor then there is a good chance the game would be pretty boring. I hope that this isn't the case and there are more than smart survivors around.
Some of us—and I include myself—would attempt to craft their thoughts beforehand, start speaking, stutter, cough, blush, and sit back without actually getting any point across.
Comment if you can relate.
I agree, but at the same time, some characters really didn't seem to have any strengths at all (Sarah comes to mind), and their only purpose seemed to mess things up. I like when characters have weaknesses, as it makes them human, but also when they have something else to be able to benefit the group.
I mean, Kenny was technically a liability at times in S2 with his anger, but he was still able to help the group in other ways, such as having some skill in combat and being able to fix the pickup. Sarah, on the other hand, never helped in anyway and to be this far in the apocalypse in S3, I would think, realistically, characters like that would be less likely seen.
Part of what made season 1 and 2 so good was the characters all having different types of personalities and different strengths/weaknesses i… moren my opinion. If everyone was just a smart, ruthless, competent survivor then there is a good chance the game would be pretty boring. I hope that this isn't the case and there are more than smart survivors around.
I agree, but at the same time, some characters really didn't seem to have any strengths at all (Sarah comes to mind), and their only purpose… more seemed to mess things up. I like when characters have weaknesses, as it makes them human, but also when they have something else to be able to benefit the group.
I mean, Kenny was technically a liability at times in S2 with his anger, but he was still able to help the group in other ways, such as having some skill in combat and being able to fix the pickup. Sarah, on the other hand, never helped in anyway and to be this far in the apocalypse in S3, I would think, realistically, characters like that would be less likely seen.
Some of us—and I include myself—would attempt to craft their thoughts beforehand, start speaking, stutter, cough, blush, and sit back without actually getting any point across.
Comment if you can relate.
Maybe but I just always find it jarring how all these people suddenly come into conflict with the appearance of Rick/Clem. At least you could sort of claim all those groups stuck around because the saviors looked after them, it just gets more and more unrealistic that people dont come into any contact with the dead
Sam's family in michonne is the best example. How the heck as this random house lasted this long? No herds have ever gone through here? No people?
This is sort of true.
However, other communities in the comic series—obvious spoiler alert—such as the remains of Alexandria, Hilltop, Ki… morengdom, Sanctuary, Oceanside and Stephanie's place, among the rest of unnamed communities of the network, are thriving, even if an amount of inhabitants have died.
I am willing to bet that there are people who were unnacustomed to the apocalypse that are living in one of these communities.
Duck was plain dumb, but I can handle that.
Sarah on the other hand was a total dick move by Telltale. Mentally Handicapped characters should not be used in Zombie Games.
Mentally Handicapped characters should not be used in Zombie Games.
Why? i honestly liked the way they resolved her character, the final scene was dumb however her story was good. There wasnt some random solution or some heroic way she got over her issues. Like many she just didnt and she died, this isnt some happy go lucky fantasy, sarah is how a large number of people with a disorder would turn out in a apocalypse.
That said to stay on topic, with characters like her or duck its getting harder to believe they would still be alive as time passes.
Duck was plain dumb, but I can handle that.
Sarah on the other hand was a total dick move by Telltale. Mentally Handicapped characters should not be used in Zombie Games.
What I didn't like was that I never fully understood Sarah until it was far to late. They never once made it clear that Sarah was mentally challenged, and was challenged long before the apocalypse began. I saw telltale setting up yet another dumb character like Duck/Ben/Nick, a character whose only purpose was to cause trouble that Clem/Lee would then have to fix or run from. Had telltale not rushed through the story so fast and allowed it to breathe more it would have become obvious that Sarah was not just another moron, but a child whose mental development had stopped at the age of 8. She was not another 'dumb' character, she was a character that needed more help than the others, but not because of her own stupidity.
So the decision to let Sarah die was not one I made knowing the full depth of her character, instead of agonizing over it, I jumped on the 'lets abandon this idiot' train long before Jane even did.
Mentally Handicapped characters should not be used in Zombie Games.
Why? i honestly liked the way they resolved her character, the f… moreinal scene was dumb however her story was good. There wasnt some random solution or some heroic way she got over her issues. Like many she just didnt and she died, this isnt some happy go lucky fantasy, sarah is how a large number of people with a disorder would turn out in a apocalypse.
That said to stay on topic, with characters like her or duck its getting harder to believe they would still be alive as time passes.
She is not brain dead, she is mentally challenged, she was capable of being a friend, she understood right from wrong, but she was a mentally handicapped person, not just another idiot.
What I didn't like was that I never fully understood Sarah until it was far to late. They never once made it clear that Sarah was mentally c… morehallenged, and was challenged long before the apocalypse began. I saw telltale setting up yet another dumb character like Duck/Ben/Nick, a character whose only purpose was to cause trouble that Clem/Lee would then have to fix or run from. Had telltale not rushed through the story so fast and allowed it to breathe more it would have become obvious that Sarah was not just another moron, but a child whose mental development had stopped at the age of 8. She was not another 'dumb' character, she was a character that needed more help than the others, but not because of her own stupidity.
So the decision to let Sarah die was not one I made knowing the full depth of her character, instead of agonizing over it, I jumped on the 'lets abandon this idiot' train long before Jane even did.
They never once made it clear that Sarah was mentally challenged, and was challenged long before the apocalypse began.
"She isnt like you, you might not realise it initally but with time you'll understand"
....I mean how clear do you want them to make it? Also they never really confirmed in the game what her problems were, whether they were short or long term. Plus I dont know why that meant she should be treated any different
So the decision to let Sarah die was not one I made knowing the full depth of her character, instead of agonizing over it, I jumped on the 'lets abandon this idiot' train long before Jane even did.
I dont get what your prolem with this is,So if sarah was stupid then you were fine letting her die but because she had a disability then you were not fine letting her die? I mean a lot of the stuff she did wasnt due to her condition (whatever it was)
What I didn't like was that I never fully understood Sarah until it was far to late. They never once made it clear that Sarah was mentally c… morehallenged, and was challenged long before the apocalypse began. I saw telltale setting up yet another dumb character like Duck/Ben/Nick, a character whose only purpose was to cause trouble that Clem/Lee would then have to fix or run from. Had telltale not rushed through the story so fast and allowed it to breathe more it would have become obvious that Sarah was not just another moron, but a child whose mental development had stopped at the age of 8. She was not another 'dumb' character, she was a character that needed more help than the others, but not because of her own stupidity.
So the decision to let Sarah die was not one I made knowing the full depth of her character, instead of agonizing over it, I jumped on the 'lets abandon this idiot' train long before Jane even did.
She is not brain dead, she is mentally challenged, she was capable of being a friend, she understood right from wrong, but she was a mentally handicapped person, not just another idiot.
"She isnt like you, you might not realise it initally but with time you'll understand"
This was the only time a hint was given that Sarah's problems stemmed from something deeper than just being a character who will eventually hold the Idiot Stick like Ben/Nick. This should have been reinforced, instead the rest of the clues point at her disability have to be inferred. At some point they should have firmly established that Sarah was not operating at full mental capacity. Its a storytelling issue, Sarah was never just another idiot, (and yes I kill off my idiot characters ASAP) there was much more going on with her than simple stupidity. Now Sarah just gets written off as another idiot, when in fact she could have allowed for season 2 to become a deeper and more thematically resonate game than it was.
My problems with her stem from 2 places, it was never fully established that her problems came from a deeper place, and if you are going to use a Mentally Challenged character have the decency to delve into the material, not just set up another character that I will immediately write off as just a liability, when Sarah really deserve better than what I gave her.
They never once made it clear that Sarah was mentally challenged, and was challenged long before the apocalypse began.
"She isnt lik… moree you, you might not realise it initally but with time you'll understand"
....I mean how clear do you want them to make it? Also they never really confirmed in the game what her problems were, whether they were short or long term. Plus I dont know why that meant she should be treated any different
So the decision to let Sarah die was not one I made knowing the full depth of her character, instead of agonizing over it, I jumped on the 'lets abandon this idiot' train long before Jane even did.
I dont get what your prolem with this is,So if sarah was stupid then you were fine letting her die but because she had a disability then you were not fine letting her die? I mean a lot of the stuff she did wasnt due to her condition (whatever it was)
Are you for real...she had the stitches for what a whole 10 seconds before the walker attack and then BAM there is the cabin group along wit… moreh Carlos to check her wound...where as it is Jane who pulls Clementine out of the lake....it is Jane who is not a total idiot and tries to get her warm while Kenny is beating Arvo.
This was the only time a hint was given that Sarah's problems stemmed from something deeper than just being a character who will eventually hold the Idiot Stick like Ben/Nick.
You realise Nick almost certainly had depression right? Ben likely had severe anxiety as well. I mean usually there is a reason someone does something foolish
At some point they should have firmly established that Sarah was not operating at full mental capacity
Sarah had some form of anxiety it doesnt mean she is completely incapable just from the condition. I think its pretty bad to assume just because she has a disorder that she is just fully incapable otherwise
when in fact she could have allowed for season 2 to become a deeper and more thematically resonate game than it was.
Why does sarah having a condition suddenly make the game so much deeper or resonating? She still a really sad character even if you dont think she has an anxiety issue
when Sarah really deserve better than what I gave her
To be honest i really dont get how you suddenly have sympathy for a character you previously dismissed. If you didnt empathise with a scared teen who watched her dad die why do you suddenly care just because she had anxiety, its kind of insulting to people with the condition really, that they suddenly need sympathy.
"She isnt like you, you might not realise it initally but with time you'll understand"
This was the only time a hint was given that Sarah… more's problems stemmed from something deeper than just being a character who will eventually hold the Idiot Stick like Ben/Nick. This should have been reinforced, instead the rest of the clues point at her disability have to be inferred. At some point they should have firmly established that Sarah was not operating at full mental capacity. Its a storytelling issue, Sarah was never just another idiot, (and yes I kill off my idiot characters ASAP) there was much more going on with her than simple stupidity. Now Sarah just gets written off as another idiot, when in fact she could have allowed for season 2 to become a deeper and more thematically resonate game than it was.
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This is sort of true.
However, other communities in the comic series—obvious spoiler alert—such as the remains of Alexandria, Hilltop, Kingdom, Sanctuary, Oceanside and Stephanie's place, among the rest of unnamed communities of the network, are thriving, even if an amount of inhabitants have died.
I am willing to bet that there are people who were unnacustomed to the apocalypse that are living in one of these communities.
I would just sit there and laugh
It would be a very different discussion without people being able to post memes every other second!
Same, I'd just sit there in the background clenching my stomach.
Are you for real...she had the stitches for what a whole 10 seconds before the walker attack and then BAM there is the cabin group along with Carlos to check her wound...where as it is Jane who pulls Clementine out of the lake....it is Jane who is not a total idiot and tries to get her warm while Kenny is beating Arvo.
i agree.
Part of what made season 1 and 2 so good was the characters all having different types of personalities and different strengths/weaknesses in my opinion. If everyone was just a smart, ruthless, competent survivor then there is a good chance the game would be pretty boring. I hope that this isn't the case and there are more than smart survivors around.
Some of us—and I include myself—would attempt to craft their thoughts beforehand, start speaking, stutter, cough, blush, and sit back without actually getting any point across.
Comment if you can relate.
Yeaaaaaaah...that would be me. I'd then just give up and stand in a corner. I uh...contribute a lot in real life debates.
Agreed. Having only badass survivors would have been boring
I would think 5 years after the start of it all, all the zombies would be pretty much gone.
The love for memes never dies, my friend!
Definitely me
I agree, but at the same time, some characters really didn't seem to have any strengths at all (Sarah comes to mind), and their only purpose seemed to mess things up. I like when characters have weaknesses, as it makes them human, but also when they have something else to be able to benefit the group.
I mean, Kenny was technically a liability at times in S2 with his anger, but he was still able to help the group in other ways, such as having some skill in combat and being able to fix the pickup. Sarah, on the other hand, never helped in anyway and to be this far in the apocalypse in S3, I would think, realistically, characters like that would be less likely seen.
Actually she did help. She gave Clem peroxide and she can notice walkers from distance if you save her.
Umm...I'm just gonna calm down, sit here, and eat some popcorn.
Me, too. I have a loud voice that I pretty much never use.
Sarah wasnt retarded she was just sheltered. The cabin group was at the Howe's for a very long time so she got no experience.
Maybe but I just always find it jarring how all these people suddenly come into conflict with the appearance of Rick/Clem. At least you could sort of claim all those groups stuck around because the saviors looked after them, it just gets more and more unrealistic that people dont come into any contact with the dead
Sam's family in michonne is the best example. How the heck as this random house lasted this long? No herds have ever gone through here? No people?
Duck was plain dumb, but I can handle that.
Sarah on the other hand was a total dick move by Telltale. Mentally Handicapped characters should not be used in Zombie Games.
So her giving Clem peroxide is for nothing?
Nothing? It just shows that Sarah had the mental capacity to follow simple directions.
Why? i honestly liked the way they resolved her character, the final scene was dumb however her story was good. There wasnt some random solution or some heroic way she got over her issues. Like many she just didnt and she died, this isnt some happy go lucky fantasy, sarah is how a large number of people with a disorder would turn out in a apocalypse.
That said to stay on topic, with characters like her or duck its getting harder to believe they would still be alive as time passes.
What about her standing up for Clementine to Carver if you make him slap you?
Fuck Troy...getting shot in the nuts is exactly what he deserved.
What I didn't like was that I never fully understood Sarah until it was far to late. They never once made it clear that Sarah was mentally challenged, and was challenged long before the apocalypse began. I saw telltale setting up yet another dumb character like Duck/Ben/Nick, a character whose only purpose was to cause trouble that Clem/Lee would then have to fix or run from. Had telltale not rushed through the story so fast and allowed it to breathe more it would have become obvious that Sarah was not just another moron, but a child whose mental development had stopped at the age of 8. She was not another 'dumb' character, she was a character that needed more help than the others, but not because of her own stupidity.
So the decision to let Sarah die was not one I made knowing the full depth of her character, instead of agonizing over it, I jumped on the 'lets abandon this idiot' train long before Jane even did.
She is not brain dead, she is mentally challenged, she was capable of being a friend, she understood right from wrong, but she was a mentally handicapped person, not just another idiot.
This game would have been boring if there were only badass characters
"She isnt like you, you might not realise it initally but with time you'll understand"
....I mean how clear do you want them to make it? Also they never really confirmed in the game what her problems were, whether they were short or long term. Plus I dont know why that meant she should be treated any different
I dont get what your prolem with this is,So if sarah was stupid then you were fine letting her die but because she had a disability then you were not fine letting her die? I mean a lot of the stuff she did wasnt due to her condition (whatever it was)
At least you're not one of these idiots who say she is retarded
"She isnt like you, you might not realise it initally but with time you'll understand"
This was the only time a hint was given that Sarah's problems stemmed from something deeper than just being a character who will eventually hold the Idiot Stick like Ben/Nick. This should have been reinforced, instead the rest of the clues point at her disability have to be inferred. At some point they should have firmly established that Sarah was not operating at full mental capacity. Its a storytelling issue, Sarah was never just another idiot, (and yes I kill off my idiot characters ASAP) there was much more going on with her than simple stupidity. Now Sarah just gets written off as another idiot, when in fact she could have allowed for season 2 to become a deeper and more thematically resonate game than it was.
My problems with her stem from 2 places, it was never fully established that her problems came from a deeper place, and if you are going to use a Mentally Challenged character have the decency to delve into the material, not just set up another character that I will immediately write off as just a liability, when Sarah really deserve better than what I gave her.
I have never used that word, nor will you ever see me use that word. and in the future I would thank you to not use that word to describe anyone.
Are you a doctor or what? Her wound would have gotten infected and would have killed her.
Oops, I meant to say not. WTF?
Don't use the R word, its an awful word.
@AronDracula most likely meant to say that you do not refer to Sarah as a retarded, knowing what their stance on her character is.
I meant to say you're not one of them who says that
Oh! nevermind than, sorry
I was two steps behind on that one
You realise Nick almost certainly had depression right? Ben likely had severe anxiety as well. I mean usually there is a reason someone does something foolish
Sarah had some form of anxiety it doesnt mean she is completely incapable just from the condition. I think its pretty bad to assume just because she has a disorder that she is just fully incapable otherwise
Why does sarah having a condition suddenly make the game so much deeper or resonating? She still a really sad character even if you dont think she has an anxiety issue
To be honest i really dont get how you suddenly have sympathy for a character you previously dismissed. If you didnt empathise with a scared teen who watched her dad die why do you suddenly care just because she had anxiety, its kind of insulting to people with the condition really, that they suddenly need sympathy.