For sure, Dan!
The point of my first list was to show that, at most, her morality should be considered ambiguous, not corrupt. Her numero… moreus good deeds in her short appearance in the series prevent her morality to be considered deficient.
Time for the immoral acts of Jane.
* Helps a group of prisoners escape, contributing to the death of the leader of the community and the multiple innocent inhabitants.
* Incapacitates and leaves to be devoured the man who sexually harassed her.
* Threatens a handicapped teenager.
* Steals the gun from the handicapped teenager.
* Prompts the child to steal from the handicapped teenager, in order to calm the suffering of the pregnant woman, the unstable man, and another young man.
* Kills an innocent man.
* Allows Clementine to have a drink.
* Misleads the unstable man about the whereabouts of the newborn baby as a part of her plan, contributing to his rage.
You can predict all you want lol, we'll never see it. I don't think he would ever physically harm someone he cares about, someone he possibly sees as a replacement to Duck, also given the fact shes a child. You have to also remember that Clem is the only one he trusts out of everyone. I think the worst he'd get is angry at her just like when Sarita died. But anyway, that's my opinion A-IBRAHIM0702, take it for what it is. There is no right or wrong
I am not calling the people who disagree with me foolish. I am calling the people who liked the comment of VengefulKenny foolish because they are the one twisting the truth of what I've done. I made a list on Jane's immoral actions just above. The list that they quoted was meant to be Jane's moral actions only, not all of her actions, although they are acting like it is the latter and like I am ignoring the bad stuff that she has done, when this is not the case.
I am not manipulating anyone into agreeing with me. I'm striving to see both sides of the discussion, and hence, I did a good list and a bad list.
I'd like to add these to the list and before i do, I just want to say that even though her reasons can be understandable, they didn't make it good either:
• Telling Clem to leave Sarah behind in the trailer without really making it look like she wanted to try to help her.
•Asking Luke to have sex with her at the worst possible time which put the group in danger as Luke would have or should have been on watch for walkers.
• Telling Clem to pull her up and if Clem tells her to help Sarah she'll say "are you crazy? She's not getting out of that, it's suicide, pull me up". I'm aware if being silent she'll help her, but again her saying what she did paints a negative view here as again she seemingly doesn't really want to help her. Clem can also determinantly say "you didn't even want to save her. Don't pretend that you're sorry.
•Abandons the group without telling anyone (Clem included if she hadn't spotted her). She comes back in the following episode which was gracious of her and the fact she saved the group which is great but this previous action was still a negative to her character at the time is the point I'm making here.
• When Clem was trying to break the ice to help Luke, she told her it's too late, there's nothing more you can. You have to leave him. Again despite her reasonings, it wasn't good of her to say that when she herself didn't see that Luke was still alive and could have been saved instead of just giving up.
As i said, she had a reasonable excuse for her actions here but doesn't make her actions right either. Sounds like someone we know right? Lol
We all know Kenny & Jane both have negative an positive points, so its depends on everyone choices in that game. Who given up on Kenny they killed him and who still believe in Kenny that he is only family left of Clem, they kept Kenny at twd s2 ending
And now please list her negative points because there certainly are those lol. Just saying because you know, if you can list negative things about say Kenny for example, i thought we could even out here as well.
You're right about that he'd never hurt someone he cares about buuuuuuut the
I oughta slap you
line is still there lol.
All right lets say X fan favorite character (that Kenny doesn't like too much) gets AJ killed ACCIDENTALLY. He/She tries to explain over and over again "I didn't kill him, it was an accident Kenny" but Kenny continues his rant "BULLSHIT!". So, what do you think of that?
You can predict all you want lol, we'll never see it. I don't think he would ever physically harm someone he cares about, someone he possibl… morey sees as a replacement to Duck, also given the fact shes a child. You have to also remember that Clem is the only one he trusts out of everyone. I think the worst he'd get is angry at her just like when Sarita died. But anyway, that's my opinion A-IBRAHIM0702, take it for what it is. There is no right or wrong
I am not calling the people who disagree with me foolish. I am calling the people who liked the comment of VengefulKenny foolish because the… morey are the one twisting the truth of what I've done. I made a list on Jane's immoral actions just above. The list that they quoted was meant to be Jane's moral actions only, not all of her actions, although they are acting like it is the latter and like I am ignoring the bad stuff that she has done, when this is not the case.
I am not manipulating anyone into agreeing with me. I'm striving to see both sides of the discussion, and hence, I did a good list and a bad list.
No. Jane dragged her sister for four states, trying to keep her alive. She did anything BUT give up on her. If anything Jamie was the one that gave up. They were cornered, and Jane found herself in a situation for the first time where she couldn't "drag her, or throw her" in order to keep her alive. So in the end, she saved herself.
Jane didn't have any option other than leaving, and staying to die with her.
Jane could've saved her sister. You know it, I know it… more, Jane knows it, everybody knows it. That's why Jane struggles with it so much.... because her sister wasn't taken by bad luck or a random walker under some trash, she was taken because Jane gave up on her.
What does this even mean.
Also I edited that last comment out of my reply to make things a bit more intelligent and respectful.
Sorry but if you honestly think the "i oughta slap you" line was meant in an aggressive, violent way towards her then you are blinded and I don't intend on offending you here but i really think you should replay that whole scene again. He says that line in the way a father says he'd spank their son or daughter for being naughty. That was in no way a threat of violence in the way you are thinking, i'm sorry it's not. In my opinion that is a naive view and just another negative thing to try to use against his character. Clem said "Lee shouldn't have bothered looking for me" or words to that affect, how would you feel if someone you cared about said that to you? Especially if it's about a guy (Lee) that you also cared about, including other people who put their lives on the line to look for her like Omid and Christa and even Ben!
All right lets say X fan favorite character (that Kenny doesn't like too much) gets AJ killed ACCIDENTALLY. He/She tries to explain over and over again "I didn't kill him, it was an accident Kenny" but Kenny continues his rant "BULLSHIT!". So, what do you think of that?
It's as i said, if it is someone he trusts fully like he does Clem, if it was her telling him the same thing that Jane told him, then i honestly feel he would listen. He'd be angry and upset sure but i do not think he would physically hurt her. For one, he knows that Clem cares about AJ as well but Kenny felt that Jane never did care about him and so he believed in his mind that she killed him and her saying it was an accident wasn't believable to him.
Again like i said, different views here and this won't change for either of us dude!
You're right about that he'd never hurt someone he cares about buuuuuuut the
I oughta slap you
line is still there lol.
All… more right lets say X fan favorite character (that Kenny doesn't like too much) gets AJ killed ACCIDENTALLY. He/She tries to explain over and over again "I didn't kill him, it was an accident Kenny" but Kenny continues his rant "BULLSHIT!". So, what do you think of that?
I'd like to add these to the list and before i do, I just want to say that even though her reasons can be understandable, they didn't make i… moret good either:
• Telling Clem to leave Sarah behind in the trailer without really making it look like she wanted to try to help her.
•Asking Luke to have sex with her at the worst possible time which put the group in danger as Luke would have or should have been on watch for walkers.
• Telling Clem to pull her up and if Clem tells her to help Sarah she'll say "are you crazy? She's not getting out of that, it's suicide, pull me up". I'm aware if being silent she'll help her, but again her saying what she did paints a negative view here as again she seemingly doesn't really want to help her. Clem can also determinantly say "you didn't even want to save her. Don't pretend that you're sorry.
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LOL I would totally love to sit here and go back and forth with you all day, but I truly have other responsibilities and things to do with my life so I'm going to stop wasting my time by going back and forth, point for point. That is an incredibly nuanced and ineffective way to debate and share ideas. It just leads to getting sidetracked and distracted by semantics.
This whole thing started when I posted a joking comment about Kenny being our lord and saviour. YOU were the sour fucking grape who had to come along and make it this huge debate by dumping a list of all these half-assed reasons. I decimated your reasoning piece by piece and now you are griping that I resorted to personal insults when I really didn't and you should probably just have more of a spine and be able to defend yourself without getting upset.
And the fact that you use the word "recurs" when it should say "resorts" just kind of proves that I'm wasting my academic background on somebody who can't come up with a real, truthful argument, let alone choose the correct words when responding to me.
And that's super cute of you saying I'm manipulating, when the people who liked my comments aren't being manipulated by my rhetoric but actually AGREE with what I am saying.
Also dude, its not even about likes. You should be able to support your opinion without getting upset over the distribution of likes.... Plus you sound silly when you say "Look at all the likes he has, CLEARLY people are being manipulated". Lol ok buddy.
These Jane/Kenny arguments are stupid AS FUCK because nobody will actually ever be convinced of anything, so thank you SO much for wasting my time by replying to my light-hearted comment with such seriousness and brevity. So have a great evening, think of a great reply to this comment, and remember....
She worked for her own self-interest in order to escape, not because she wanted to help others or be part of a group.
This is only y… moreour biased speculation, and it doesn't this negate the fact that she was a forced member of this community. I never claimed that she was there in order to help others.
Also, we have no evidence of her undergoing sexual abuse, just that she had plans to escape with Troy by implying that she'd fuck him. Considering she fucks Luke later for no reason, lets keep things in character and assume things were consensual. Also, she shot a man's dick off. MORALITY DEFINED!!!!
Owen Thomas commented in a video of YouTube that Troy was going to be shown harrassing Jane on-screen, but it was taken off the game. However, there is evidence of sexual themes between them, and it is only logical to hold that it took place off-screen.
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And the fact that you use the word "recurs" when it should say "resorts" just kind of proves that I'm wasting my academic background on somebody who can't come up with a real, truthful argument, let alone choose the correct words when responding to me.
LOL I would totally love to sit here and go back and forth with you all day, but I truly have other responsibilities and things to do with m… morey life so I'm going to stop wasting my time by going back and forth, point for point. That is an incredibly nuanced and ineffective way to debate and share ideas. It just leads to getting sidetracked and distracted by semantics.
This whole thing started when I posted a joking comment about Kenny being our lord and saviour. YOU were the sour fucking grape who had to come along and make it this huge debate by dumping a list of all these half-assed reasons. I decimated your reasoning piece by piece and now you are griping that I resorted to personal insults when I really didn't and you should probably just have more of a spine and be able to defend yourself without getting upset.
And the fact that you use the word "recurs" when it should say "resorts" just kind of proves that I'm wasting my academi… [view original content]
Yeah, okay. Latch onto that one point, that'll get you there.
And I never said there's anything wrong with not being a native speaker. My problem is with your logic and rhetoric, not where you're from. That was just one small point I was making in the whole grand scheme of my comment.
And the fact that you use the word "recurs" when it should say "resorts" just kind of proves that I'm wasting my academic background on some… morebody who can't come up with a real, truthful argument, let alone choose the correct words when responding to me.
Sorry for not being a native speaker, then.
Sorry but if you honestly think the "i oughta slap you" line was meant in an aggressive, violent way towards her then you are blinded and I … moredon't intend on offending you here but i really think you should replay that whole scene again. He says that line in the way a father says he'd spank their son or daughter for being naughty. That was in no way a threat of violence in the way you are thinking, i'm sorry it's not. In my opinion that is a naive view and just another negative thing to try to use against his character. Clem said "Lee shouldn't have bothered looking for me" or words to that affect, how would you feel if someone you cared about said that to you? Especially if it's about a guy (Lee) that you also cared about, including other people who put their lives on the line to look for her like Omid and Christa and even Ben!
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No. Jane dragged her sister for four states, trying to keep her alive. She did anything BUT give up on her. If anything Jamie was the one th… moreat gave up. They were cornered, and Jane found herself in a situation for the first time where she couldn't "drag her, or throw her" in order to keep her alive. So in the end, she saved herself.
Did i say that? No and nor have i ever said it was justified. However, if that certain person hadn't caused the unstable individual to get angry/violent in the first place, there wouldn't have been a "killing" to complain about. Regardless of good intentions on her behalf, she caused a dangerous situation that could have been prevented.
Well you seemed bothered about a number of people liking that guys comment and im basically saying i know the feeling because if you remember i once got annoyed because someone (may have even been you?) had received half a dozen likes over a comment i made, it kinda does make you feel worthless and a group of people ganging up in you.
I think it is safe to say most Kensplainers are not going to be splitting the atom any time soon. You guys keep defending a man who in season one was your pal as long as you took his side every Damn time. You don't want to murder Larry? Fucking useless! You get separated after finding no boats in Savana...bottle time for Kenny. All fired to escape the freezer...fucking freezes almost getting you killed. Does not want to help get Clementine back....makes you beg.
Smacks you on your back, knocking the walkie outta your hand, argues for leaving it...pregnant woman shames him into action.
What can you expect from Kensplainers, they drink the kool aid and never look back.
Not all of us are idiots but thanks for that insult because that would have to be directed at me as well being a Kenny fan
I just had a feeling that you might've been saying that to me because of something that happened in the past, sort of like guilt-tripping or making an ironic joke, but I see now that that's not what it was.
Well you seemed bothered about a number of people liking that guys comment and im basically saying i know the feeling because if you remembe… morer i once got annoyed because someone (may have even been you?) had received half a dozen likes over a comment i made, it kinda does make you feel worthless and a group of people ganging up in you.
Just how i see it sometimes i guess.
You took one vocabulary mistake along with your own fabrication that I can't think of truthful arguments, to jump to the conclusion that I am wasting your academic background.
I am not justifying Jane's immoral actions. I listed them above. You are replying to a list of Jane's moral actions, not all of Jane's actions. Why is that so difficult to listen to? I would like a direct answer.
Yeah, okay. Latch onto that one point, that'll get you there.
And I never said there's anything wrong with not being a native speaker. … moreMy problem is with your logic and rhetoric, not where you're from. That was just one small point I was making in the whole grand scheme of my comment.
Telling Clem to leave Sarah behind in the trailer without really making it look like she wanted to try to help her.
Even though she was re-living Jamie's death, and it is understandable why she would think that it's impossible to save Sarah, yes, it was immoral. We can add that to the list.
Asking Luke to have sex with her at the worst possible time which put the group in danger as Luke would have or should have been on watch for walkers.
This wouldn't have changed the outcome of the story, though.
Telling Clem to pull her up and if Clem tells her to help Sarah she'll say "are you crazy? She's not getting out of that, it's suicide, pull me up". I'm aware if being silent she'll help her, but again her saying what she did paints a negative view here as again she seemingly doesn't really want to help her. Clem can also determinantly say "you didn't even want to save her. Don't pretend that you're sorry.
What she said isn't immoral by itself, in my opinion, but it is her responsability if Clementine and Luke lift her and Sarah is devoured without trying to save her. Point taken!
Abandons the group without telling anyone (Clem included if she hadn't spotted her). She comes back in the following episode which was gracious of her and the fact she saved the group which is great but this previous action was still a negative to her character at the time is the point I'm making here.
She didn't owe anything to the group, but I suppose that it was wrong of her to leave without telling anybody about it.
I guess…
I am trying very hard to understand why it was immoral to leave without discussing it with others. Can you, or anybody else, do a little more elaboration on this, please?
When Clem was trying to break the ice to help Luke, she told her it's too late, there's nothing more you can. You have to leave him. Again despite her reasonings, it wasn't good of her to say that when she herself didn't see that Luke was still alive and could have been saved instead of just giving up.
That is true, but others in the group yelled at her, too. We should put all of them in the same boat if we want to count this one—Jane, Mike and Kenny. And even then, I don't think that it should be counted as immoral to prevent her from falling onto the lake.
I'd like to add these to the list and before i do, I just want to say that even though her reasons can be understandable, they didn't make i… moret good either:
• Telling Clem to leave Sarah behind in the trailer without really making it look like she wanted to try to help her.
•Asking Luke to have sex with her at the worst possible time which put the group in danger as Luke would have or should have been on watch for walkers.
• Telling Clem to pull her up and if Clem tells her to help Sarah she'll say "are you crazy? She's not getting out of that, it's suicide, pull me up". I'm aware if being silent she'll help her, but again her saying what she did paints a negative view here as again she seemingly doesn't really want to help her. Clem can also determinantly say "you didn't even want to save her. Don't pretend that you're sorry.
•Abandons the group without telling anyone (Clem included if she hadn't spotted her). She comes back in the… [view original content]
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Kensplaining...so much Kensplaining by the Kensplainers.
Jaja ok now seriously.
I like cheese puffs.
I attempt to see both sides on these matters.
You can predict all you want lol, we'll never see it. I don't think he would ever physically harm someone he cares about, someone he possibly sees as a replacement to Duck, also given the fact shes a child. You have to also remember that Clem is the only one he trusts out of everyone. I think the worst he'd get is angry at her just like when Sarita died. But anyway, that's my opinion A-IBRAHIM0702, take it for what it is. There is no right or wrong
I am not calling the people who disagree with me foolish. I am calling the people who liked the comment of VengefulKenny foolish because they are the one twisting the truth of what I've done. I made a list on Jane's immoral actions just above. The list that they quoted was meant to be Jane's moral actions only, not all of her actions, although they are acting like it is the latter and like I am ignoring the bad stuff that she has done, when this is not the case.
I am not manipulating anyone into agreeing with me. I'm striving to see both sides of the discussion, and hence, I did a good list and a bad list.
I'd like to add these to the list and before i do, I just want to say that even though her reasons can be understandable, they didn't make it good either:
• Telling Clem to leave Sarah behind in the trailer without really making it look like she wanted to try to help her.
•Asking Luke to have sex with her at the worst possible time which put the group in danger as Luke would have or should have been on watch for walkers.
• Telling Clem to pull her up and if Clem tells her to help Sarah she'll say "are you crazy? She's not getting out of that, it's suicide, pull me up". I'm aware if being silent she'll help her, but again her saying what she did paints a negative view here as again she seemingly doesn't really want to help her. Clem can also determinantly say "you didn't even want to save her. Don't pretend that you're sorry.
•Abandons the group without telling anyone (Clem included if she hadn't spotted her). She comes back in the following episode which was gracious of her and the fact she saved the group which is great but this previous action was still a negative to her character at the time is the point I'm making here.
• When Clem was trying to break the ice to help Luke, she told her it's too late, there's nothing more you can. You have to leave him. Again despite her reasonings, it wasn't good of her to say that when she herself didn't see that Luke was still alive and could have been saved instead of just giving up.
As i said, she had a reasonable excuse for her actions here but doesn't make her actions right either. Sounds like someone we know right? Lol
We all know Kenny & Jane both have negative an positive points, so its depends on everyone choices in that game. Who given up on Kenny they killed him and who still believe in Kenny that he is only family left of Clem, they kept Kenny at twd s2 ending
You're right about that he'd never hurt someone he cares about buuuuuuut the
line is still there lol.
All right lets say X fan favorite character (that Kenny doesn't like too much) gets AJ killed ACCIDENTALLY. He/She tries to explain over and over again "I didn't kill him, it was an accident Kenny" but Kenny continues his rant "BULLSHIT!". So, what do you think of that?
Not all of us are idiots but thanks for that insult because that would have to be directed at me as well being a Kenny fan
Yep i know the feeling when a ton of people like someone's comment over your own. It's annoying. I agree with you
No. Jane dragged her sister for four states, trying to keep her alive. She did anything BUT give up on her. If anything Jamie was the one that gave up. They were cornered, and Jane found herself in a situation for the first time where she couldn't "drag her, or throw her" in order to keep her alive. So in the end, she saved herself.
Sorry but if you honestly think the "i oughta slap you" line was meant in an aggressive, violent way towards her then you are blinded and I don't intend on offending you here but i really think you should replay that whole scene again. He says that line in the way a father says he'd spank their son or daughter for being naughty. That was in no way a threat of violence in the way you are thinking, i'm sorry it's not. In my opinion that is a naive view and just another negative thing to try to use against his character. Clem said "Lee shouldn't have bothered looking for me" or words to that affect, how would you feel if someone you cared about said that to you? Especially if it's about a guy (Lee) that you also cared about, including other people who put their lives on the line to look for her like Omid and Christa and even Ben!
It's as i said, if it is someone he trusts fully like he does Clem, if it was her telling him the same thing that Jane told him, then i honestly feel he would listen. He'd be angry and upset sure but i do not think he would physically hurt her. For one, he knows that Clem cares about AJ as well but Kenny felt that Jane never did care about him and so he believed in his mind that she killed him and her saying it was an accident wasn't believable to him.
Again like i said, different views here and this won't change for either of us dude!
Last one good points
LOL I would totally love to sit here and go back and forth with you all day, but I truly have other responsibilities and things to do with my life so I'm going to stop wasting my time by going back and forth, point for point. That is an incredibly nuanced and ineffective way to debate and share ideas. It just leads to getting sidetracked and distracted by semantics.
This whole thing started when I posted a joking comment about Kenny being our lord and saviour. YOU were the sour fucking grape who had to come along and make it this huge debate by dumping a list of all these half-assed reasons. I decimated your reasoning piece by piece and now you are griping that I resorted to personal insults when I really didn't and you should probably just have more of a spine and be able to defend yourself without getting upset.
And the fact that you use the word "recurs" when it should say "resorts" just kind of proves that I'm wasting my academic background on somebody who can't come up with a real, truthful argument, let alone choose the correct words when responding to me.
And that's super cute of you saying I'm manipulating, when the people who liked my comments aren't being manipulated by my rhetoric but actually AGREE with what I am saying.
Also dude, its not even about likes. You should be able to support your opinion without getting upset over the distribution of likes.... Plus you sound silly when you say "Look at all the likes he has, CLEARLY people are being manipulated". Lol ok buddy.
These Jane/Kenny arguments are stupid AS FUCK because nobody will actually ever be convinced of anything, so thank you SO much for wasting my time by replying to my light-hearted comment with such seriousness and brevity. So have a great evening, think of a great reply to this comment, and remember....
HAIL KENNY!!!
We all do.
Sorry for not being a native speaker, then.
I'm not sure if this comment is meant to be taken literally.
Yeah, okay. Latch onto that one point, that'll get you there.
And I never said there's anything wrong with not being a native speaker. My problem is with your logic and rhetoric, not where you're from. That was just one small point I was making in the whole grand scheme of my comment.
So killing someone out of a mere assumption is justified?
hmmmm.......... nah.
If that someone is trying to get him killed, YES.
Thank you! This is exactly my point.
Am I the only one who doesn't hate Kenny?
Did i say that? No and nor have i ever said it was justified. However, if that certain person hadn't caused the unstable individual to get angry/violent in the first place, there wouldn't have been a "killing" to complain about. Regardless of good intentions on her behalf, she caused a dangerous situation that could have been prevented.
I don't either.
Well you seemed bothered about a number of people liking that guys comment and im basically saying i know the feeling because if you remember i once got annoyed because someone (may have even been you?) had received half a dozen likes over a comment i made, it kinda does make you feel worthless and a group of people ganging up in you.
Just how i see it sometimes i guess.
Nope. You're certainly not the only one but there's just not that many on these forums anymore
If only people debated Lee vs Larry with the same passion and fervor they give to the Kenny vs Jane debate.
I think it is safe to say most Kensplainers are not going to be splitting the atom any time soon. You guys keep defending a man who in season one was your pal as long as you took his side every Damn time. You don't want to murder Larry? Fucking useless! You get separated after finding no boats in Savana...bottle time for Kenny. All fired to escape the freezer...fucking freezes almost getting you killed. Does not want to help get Clementine back....makes you beg.
Smacks you on your back, knocking the walkie outta your hand, argues for leaving it...pregnant woman shames him into action.
Tacos or Pizza?
Oh, no, that's okay.
I just had a feeling that you might've been saying that to me because of something that happened in the past, sort of like guilt-tripping or making an ironic joke, but I see now that that's not what it was.
I don't remember it was me, but it could've been.
I prefer pizza, but I love both.
I love Taco pizza
That's a thing?
If it is, my heart will melt.
What is there to debate....Larry was a meanie head.
You took one vocabulary mistake along with your own fabrication that I can't think of truthful arguments, to jump to the conclusion that I am wasting your academic background.
I am not justifying Jane's immoral actions. I listed them above. You are replying to a list of Jane's moral actions, not all of Jane's actions. Why is that so difficult to listen to? I would like a direct answer.
Oh yes it is a thing, a glorious thing.
Even though she was re-living Jamie's death, and it is understandable why she would think that it's impossible to save Sarah, yes, it was immoral. We can add that to the list.
This wouldn't have changed the outcome of the story, though.
What she said isn't immoral by itself, in my opinion, but it is her responsability if Clementine and Luke lift her and Sarah is devoured without trying to save her. Point taken!
She didn't owe anything to the group, but I suppose that it was wrong of her to leave without telling anybody about it.
I guess…
I am trying very hard to understand why it was immoral to leave without discussing it with others. Can you, or anybody else, do a little more elaboration on this, please?
That is true, but others in the group yelled at her, too. We should put all of them in the same boat if we want to count this one—Jane, Mike and Kenny. And even then, I don't think that it should be counted as immoral to prevent her from falling onto the lake.
Thank you for the input, Dan! It is appreciated.
Edit explanation
Had left an idea unfinished.
I mean, it seems more likely that they liked his comments because they sound funny and satirical rather than actually agreeing that Kenny is a god.