Surely Kenny/Jane could survive the whole of season 3 if they are in the game?

I don't see why they couldn't. I mean if they gave both characters lesser roles it shouldn't be too difficult becausd all they'd need to do is change their dialogue and possibly a few other different things similar to the way they changed up Carley and Doug?

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  • You know what would be really cool?

    What if Kenny/Jane are kidnapped alongside Javier's family, and their choices are judged by the people who have captured then. So say Clementine/Javier have a walkie-talkie to go on, and speak to Jane/Kenny on occasion or Javier's family, as well as speak to the kidnappers. The kidnappers see this as all some kind of game, having a scout party or somebody always keeping a watchful eye on Clementine/Javier (it could even be someone in their group which sets up another traitor plotline), and so they are aware of the decisions Clementine/Javier are making, and punish the hostages (possibly even going as far as to kill them down the line), or rewarding them by letting their hostages live one more day of guaranteed safety. Each episode features a talk with these kidnappers, and so our choices are judged and could mean life/death for any number of the hostages.

  • I'd be happy enough with that

    HarjKS posted: »

    You know what would be really cool? What if Kenny/Jane are kidnapped alongside Javier's family, and their choices are judged by the peopl

  • Dan, buddy, you make great topics--but is this really necessary when there's already an active one very similar to it?

  • No they couldn't survive as it's confirmed we meet Clem in Virginia several years later.

  • I did not notice another thread to do with it dude! Sorry. I don't always scroll through and see to be honest

    DabigRG posted: »

    Dan, buddy, you make great topics--but is this really necessary when there's already an active one very similar to it?

  • But why would that mean Kenny/Jane couldn't have survived with Clem years later though into Virginia? I admit I don't think they are even in the game but i can hope

    Anthorn posted: »

    No they couldn't survive as it's confirmed we meet Clem in Virginia several years later.

  • Okay. Hopefully, it'll generate some interesting discussion at least.

    dan290786 posted: »

    I did not notice another thread to do with it dude! Sorry. I don't always scroll through and see to be honest

  • makmak600makmak600 Banned
    edited September 2016

    Maybe but the chances of that are……
    you know what just forget it they still have thier chances for that

  • Absolutely. It's likely that they won't be major but I don't see why they'd have to die simply because they're determinant.

    I can imagine at certain points where you get a chance to talk to everyone and a hub is triggered, and then a optional conversation with Kenny/Jane (maybe Edith?) can be triggered.

  • Agreed with Dan.

    Why would location affect narrative decisions like this at all?

    Anthorn posted: »

    No they couldn't survive as it's confirmed we meet Clem in Virginia several years later.

  • edited September 2016

    There are pretty easy ways to keep Kenny/Jane alive in Season 3. As many people have sugested, they could just shove them aside and make them side-characters. Seems like we'll be in a communty in this upcoming Season, so nothing would be stopping TellTale from having them there and be as involved in the plot as any other average resident would be.

    But now let me ask you guys a question. Is this what he want? These two awesome characters to just be shoved aside from the story. For them to just be there and do little to nothing?

    Do we prefer having them die and learn about their last adventures or having them alive and just... there? I've mourned Jane's character, let it be whatever they made it be. She is still alive? Great. She isn't? Can't say I won't be a little bit disappointed, but fine. I
    f TellTale is promissing to give Clementine 5 brand different backstories and 5 brand different adventures with these two characters I can't help but feel satisfied. At least it's something.

  • They've definitely promised the 5 endings will carry over right? It is going to be interesting to see how they work that. But if it is only exaplained through dialogue i will be very unhappy about it

    There are pretty easy ways to keep Kenny/Jane alive in Season 3. As many people have sugested, they could just shove them aside and make the

  • It can happen, if Telltale puts in enough effort. They can even pull bullshit excuses, but it seems kinda stupid to have the big dramatic choice at the end of the season not matter.

  • Anything is possible. I can't wait for the huge amount of topics popping up comparing what Kenny or Jane say and do if this happens. I mean we've seen this community go over every little detail a 1000x with the Kenny and Jane argument, but with S3 it will get crazy around here.

  • Because it's telltale.

    Agreed with Dan. Why would location affect narrative decisions like this at all?

  • I don't see how it pushes Telltale work to a greater degree than otherwise, nonetheless.

    Anthorn posted: »

    Because it's telltale.

  • Really hoping Telltale doesnt kill Kenny and Jane. Now's there chance to show that every determinant character does need to die.

    As said above, maybe there will be something like Kenny and Jane are taken by the people that Javier doesnt like. The only problem is, what if you were alone?

  • Then György, a former driver's ed teacher and aspiring erotic novelist (who Clem saved from drowning when he had passed out drunk with his head in a fountain), will take the place of Kenny/Jane. Obviously.

    Poogers555 posted: »

    Really hoping Telltale doesnt kill Kenny and Jane. Now's there chance to show that every determinant character does need to die. As said

  • You know, that's not too far off from my thoughts on the alone ending...minus the driver's ed and erotic parts.

    Agelastos posted: »

    Then György, a former driver's ed teacher and aspiring erotic novelist (who Clem saved from drowning when he had passed out drunk with his head in a fountain), will take the place of Kenny/Jane. Obviously.

  • That sounds like some kind of Saw version of the game.

    HarjKS posted: »

    You know what would be really cool? What if Kenny/Jane are kidnapped alongside Javier's family, and their choices are judged by the peopl

  • Dont you think it would be best to keep Kenny and Jane out of the new season? Do we really want more ongoing fan battles over these characters? Id rather just start fresh.

  • Personally, I think Kenny should definitely be very downplayed while Jane can play a relatively minor role from a Season perspective. And that says a lot coming from me!

    KCohere posted: »

    Dont you think it would be best to keep Kenny and Jane out of the new season? Do we really want more ongoing fan battles over these characters? Id rather just start fresh.

  • I dont know if even that would be enough. "How come Jane has more lines than Kenny? Remember how she abandonded her sister?" Yeah, no thanks.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Personally, I think Kenny should definitely be very downplayed while Jane can play a relatively minor role from a Season perspective. And that says a lot coming from me!

  • #György for Season 3!

    Agelastos posted: »

    Then György, a former driver's ed teacher and aspiring erotic novelist (who Clem saved from drowning when he had passed out drunk with his head in a fountain), will take the place of Kenny/Jane. Obviously.

  • TT feeds off this kind of thing. It's kept the fan base alive and active. Other games would kill to have a community still strong after 2 years.

    KCohere posted: »

    Dont you think it would be best to keep Kenny and Jane out of the new season? Do we really want more ongoing fan battles over these characters? Id rather just start fresh.

  • edited September 2016

    I hope not. Season 2 suffered by spending too much time obsessing over characters from season 1, meaning new characters who could've been great (Nick, Rebecca, Sarah) missed out on a hell of a lot of development.

    Though I like Jane a lot, I'd much rather season 3 focuses on making it's characters really good, rather than bringing some back, who've already had finished character arcs (Jane has a neat character arc and Kenny has TWO) for the sake of fan service.

  • edited September 2016

    'Kenny might have hurt innocent people and hit clem, but Jane's...a bitch.'

    KCohere posted: »

    I dont know if even that would be enough. "How come Jane has more lines than Kenny? Remember how she abandonded her sister?" Yeah, no thanks.

  • Yeah, they could. It may require Telltale to make a little bit more effort, unlike whatever they tried doing with Season 2, but I personally believe, it's the least they could do for the fans of the series and it's characters. The only choice in the entire of Season 2 that could make any lasting impact is, of course, the ending, and to dismiss that through dialogue, would be just plain lazy and an insult to those who picked Kenny or Jane, hoping to see one or the other return.

    Telltale, who apparently cater to making choices impact the story, should seriously start practicing what they preach and prove that they can make games where your decisions do, in fact, matter.

  • I hope not. Season 2 suffered by spending too much time obsessing over characters from season 1, meaning new characters who could've been great (Nick, Rebecca, Sarah) missed out on a hell of a lot of development.

    Agreed.

    Flog61 posted: »

    I hope not. Season 2 suffered by spending too much time obsessing over characters from season 1, meaning new characters who could've been gr

  • KCohere

    I'd like proper closure on their characters if anything at all. The one thing i wish telltale had done from season 1 and 2 is have at least a few people survive the season, not just Clem and 1 other person. The way to get attached to characters (for me anyway) is their longevity.

    But yeah Kenny/Jane don't need to be in season 3 but i really would like them to be and to have either a much smaller role or have their characters exit in a more fitting way

    KCohere posted: »

    Dont you think it would be best to keep Kenny and Jane out of the new season? Do we really want more ongoing fan battles over these characters? Id rather just start fresh.

  • What would you consider a fitting send off?

    dan290786 posted: »

    KCohere I'd like proper closure on their characters if anything at all. The one thing i wish telltale had done from season 1 and 2 is hav

  • Kenny and Jane's presence in Season 3 hopefully should be minimal at best, else Season 3 will risk having new characters being overshadowed by returning characters once again.

    It's not a bad thing to having returning characters have a presence in sequels, but when they are among the only kind of characters that helps move the plot forward, it gives me the message that the writers aren't able to tell a fresh new story with their new characters carving out their own stories, without relying on nostalgia or returning characters to do the job for them.

  • Orchestrated by goat farmers.

    KCohere posted: »

    That sounds like some kind of Saw version of the game.

  • What is the issue with that?

    I will happily deal with this senseless bashing if it means that I and others can encounter some of their favorite characters once again.

    Jane, my baby.

    KCohere posted: »

    I dont know if even that would be enough. "How come Jane has more lines than Kenny? Remember how she abandonded her sister?" Yeah, no thanks.

  • It is perfectly okay if Kenny and Jane are placed in background roles, because it is realistic, and it would also be a good narrative decision.

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    Kenny and Jane's presence in Season 3 hopefully should be minimal at best, else Season 3 will risk having new characters being overshadowed

  • It's not a bad thing to having returning characters have a presence in sequels, but when they are among the only kind of characters that helps move the plot forward, it gives me the message that the writers aren't able to tell a fresh new story with their new characters carving out their own stories, without relying on nostalgia or returning characters to do the job for them.

    THANK YOU!

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    Kenny and Jane's presence in Season 3 hopefully should be minimal at best, else Season 3 will risk having new characters being overshadowed

  • Exactly.

    I'm not opposed to seeing either of them again in Season 3, just so as long as they are both not the main focus of the story that is meant to be about Clementine and Javier, at least what is advertised thus far.

    It is perfectly okay if Kenny and Jane are placed in background roles, because it is realistic, and it would also be a good narrative decision.

  • edited September 2016

    Okay, dude, as someone who likes Luke and hates Jane, they have very little in common. Unless you're talking about that whole "Luke is Ice Cream" thing back when the episodes were still being released.

    Also, it could act as a sign of character development on his part to actually ask Clementine if she needs his help on certain things rather than always butting in. At least, going off his attitude in his endings.

  • edited September 2016

    Anything that doesn't involve a death or disappearance off-screen basically.

    If they decided to have Kenny/Jane die or disappear on-screen like Christa or Molly for example then i'd be completely fine with that but maybe not if they were given the Nick and Omid treatment. By that i mean killing them off the first 5 mins of S3 like Omid was or in Nick's case, being a virtual TV background extra before his eventual death. Honestly Nick's determinant death was so frustrating how they just cast his character off like crap.

    I think us fans deserve our S2 ending choices to at least have some sort of sense of feeling that our choices mattered for once and for them to go out in a memorable way.

    KCohere posted: »

    What would you consider a fitting send off?

  • edited September 2016

    (shudders) lol

    What is the issue with that? I will happily deal with this senseless bashing if it means that I and others can encounter some of their favorite characters once again. Jane, my baby.

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