S2E4 standoff question
If you were to have it be more realistic by having someone in Clem's group die from the crossfire, whose death would you have moved there: Sarita's, Nick's, or Sarah's?
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If you were to have it be more realistic by having someone in Clem's group die from the crossfire, whose death would you have moved there: Sarita's, Nick's, or Sarah's?
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Sarah dying in the shootout would be pretty heartbreaking. But if one of the group did die then it would've been hard for Telltale to make us pity Arvo.
I'd have had Sarah, if we chose to save her from the trailer, be shot and killed in the shootout instead of the pure dire scene that Telltale wrote for her instead. At least, this way, it would've felt the shootout had some impact and make Kenny's treatment of Arvo more understandable to some players.
Nick
Loved this scene. The reappearence of Arvo gave me pause. I knew he wasn't alone, but didn't know what was gonna happen. The sight of the rest of his crew made me want to give them whatever they wanted. I'll be honest I was afraid.
Nick's death would've been better here, as the whole group would feel the way Kenny did towards Arvo.
All of the characters that you "saved" up until that point should have died in the shootout, namely Sarah and Nick. Their deaths if you saved them were a let down, whereas if they died in the shootout it would be intense af and actually realistic. I think the only guy on our side who got hurt was Luke, even though everyone open fired from mere feet away from each other.
I believe that this would be brilliant from a narrative perspective; but then people would complain that the only reason the gunfight existed was to get rid of the remaining cabin group survivors because the writers didn't know what to do with them.
I would pick Sarita, so Kenny would go off the rails in the last episode and his conflict with Jane would be more understandable. Remember that he can get in a fist fight with Lee when Duck is dying? Sarita said he wasn't the Kenny she knew. The previous episodes could show his mental state deteriorating more each day but maybe not have him be such a jerk. Then Sarita gets shot and Kenny finally snaps and lashes out at the group viciously. The rest of the episode would progress as usual with Bonnie and Mike deserting and Jane deciding Kenny is too dangerous to have around.
It would have been better still reality-wise though if more people than one on our side got shot. Luke only got shot because he left safety. I would have Sarita and Mike die and Luke get injured in the opening fire instead of leaving cover. Maybe have Bonnie get shot in the arm leaving cover instead. Then Jane sneaks up on the guy.
Quite frankly, people would complain no matter what they possibly did, so I'd take this over what happened
I mean, they opted for 'keep everyone alive against all odds,' which should have been a good thing that kept everyone happy, right? I mean, everyone's favorite characters are still be alive. You can't possibly piss anyone off if you keep everyone alive, right? Nope. Wrong.
Well may be, instead of actually killing Nick or Sarah during the shootout, they actually get wounded, shot in the gut or something, and therefor they need to go with Arvo to find their hideout to get medicine and tools to fix them up. They get to the ice and you have a choice between saving Nick or Sarah again. Whoever you choose will still die at a later point due to blood loss, or you can save them, have everything look alright, then wake up in the morning to find Sarah/Nick passed away in their sleep due to blood loss.
Yeah but then they could've written a really believable death for them both and it could've been really tragic. Also mixed in with other characters being injured, that thing could've been a bloodbath on both sides from the very get go with having everybody down, either dead, injured or bleeding to death.
Dammit that cliffhanger at the end of Episode 4 was amazing ;_; what happened?
"No Going Back" is what happened.
I would say maybe both Nick and Sarah.
I think what would have been more realistic is if the Russian ambush occurred at the end of Episode 5. Everyone ends up shooting each other but Clem being the golden girl that she is, survives along with AJ who had fallen to the ground after Rebecca turned. Everyone is dead and she walks off into the distance with the baby and you are given a choice whether to head back to Howe's or find Wellington.
Dark as fuck ending with the deaths but that would have been a lot more believable than the absolute shite we got at the start of No Going Back
Yeah, where were you when we needed you, "@BetterToSleep"?!
I was cancelled for some shitty @NoGoingBack.
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Mike got hurt too but they only focused on Luke's injuries xD
Nah. Telltale would just make Kenny do something more monstrous to make us pity Arvo.
I'd pick Nick out of the three. I saved Nick from the wrath of Walter, and his later death didn't impact me. If he had been gunned down by one of the men in Arvo's group, it would of made me feel more about losing him vs. finding him tangled up in a fence zombified.
If Sarah and Nick did die in the shootout if they lived - although I would've preferred Sarah living if she was taught how to use a gun(just my opinion), I think allot of people would still show sympathy for Arvo so long as he didn't kill anyone. Saying that, having Bonnie/Mike die if Nick/Sarah were not around might've been a good way to show the consequences of the Gunfight.
Just like a lot of people here said, I think Nick and Sarah should have been at the shootout and died in it if you saved them in Episodes 2 and 4.
It certainly would have been better than their so called "deaths" in AtR, that's for sure...
I remember that like the back of my hand.
"I'm hit! I'm hit!"
And then Bonnie was like "Mike, get over here!"
And then he was fine as a fiddle. Like, what the fuck?
I believe Bonnie was patching him up. When Luke gets shot, it cuts to Bonnie's Big NO with Mike leaning against the tree as she's working on his arm.
I love how a majority of these choices were Sarah--but I agree.
As I suggested in dan#####'s "What would you change?" thread, having Sarah die during the shootout, perhaps after shooting Rebecca during one of the alternate choices, would be a little more poetic than if the Observation Deck scene was done right. Especially given that Arvo is a relatively similar character, so it would be one teen dying helping her friends defend themselves from a fight that didn't have to happen while another doesn't due to his sister getting shot despite both not wanting the fight to happen (and not even having a gun, but still).
To be fair, it's not like Arvo himself is pulling the trigger or ordering a mass execution. More like his friend/boss/leader was being a dick and got trigger happy when Clementine/Kenny fired in his general direction and shot their own ally.
It would give him some actual guilt on his conscious but no actual villainy on his part. Plus, Arvo is supposed to be the Designated Villain at that point anyway because Kenny said so.
First let me say. I'm a huge Clem fan. But if Tell Tale were gonna kill her it should have been then. They had a huge amount of other potential PC's to choose from. And it would have made S2 as relivant as S1. At a minimum that should have been where and how she got shot in my view. And part of me would have died inside. But if they could'nt kill her then. They really should'nt now. Not with the shows death reveal stealing most of the thunder. It would come off as a me too move. Which would suck. The one thing this series does best is do its own thing. I hope that stays true.