In the trailer park, she just stands back and let's Clementine talk to her and the first sign that Sarah isn't emotional sound enough to move has her start to suggest they leave her. If Clementine persists, she continually pressures her to just do so, even getting heated towards her. It is only when Clementine gets Sarah to snap out of it and the walkers break open the door that she lifts Sarah up before Clementine for the sake of getting everyone out of there.
When you have to choose between her and Sarah at the deck, she doesn't want to try and instead asks for Clementine to pull her up. Telling her to go anyway will because they can't just give up without trying has her reluctantly bite the bullet and go, essentially guilt tripped into doing so.
Okay, this one is tricky because I can't seem to find any appropriate playthroughs to confirm it: I could've sworn there was an option to wait when Jane pleads for you to pull her up and leave Sarah. Doing so supposedly had her immediately let go of her own volition and try to save Sarah herself.
Better to stay around a crazy guy life Kenny, besides she is not that selfish, in her ending if you let her answer she let the family in, and she returns to help Clem and the group, and tries to save Sarah, twice.
What's this nonsense? I now know why people like you don't like Kenny... At least you should have had some courtesy to not steal someone's work and skew it into this glibberish nonsense.
But Jane was doing nothing, her job was done, why didn't Mark and Bonnie look out for Zombies if you help them first with the water?
Babies do that. What I find myself wondering when people complain about A.J. is: what would you rather? Are you suggesting the player should be able to leave Rebecca or the baby or that they should be killed?
Sadly I play as Clementine, and Clementine wouldn't do that, but if it were up to me.
I must have missed that. I've only been on this forum since October.
You just need to ask around why people killed him
Some will say because he was an ass, and of course if someone was an ass to you he deserves death
Others because he let you die in Ep 1, and they are totally right
Others because they are Kenny's dog.
But a lot of people said it because he was a liability to the group, an old man with heart problems was only going to be problems.
* It takes two to have sex is what I meant.
* Babies do that. What I find myself wondering when people complain about A.J. is: what would… more you rather? Are you suggesting the player should be able to leave Rebecca or the baby or that they should be killed?
* I must have missed that. I've only been on this forum since October.
But Jane was doing nothing, her job was done, why didn't Mike and Bonnie look out for Zombies if you help them first with the water?
Because some people didn't think to, or even that they could, do that when they played? Also, I asked this question before, but how did Luke and Jane literally fuck up that badly if you did go help Mike and Bonnie first?
It takes two to have sex is what I meant.
But Jane was doing nothing, her job was done, why didn't Mark and Bonnie look out for Zomb… moreies if you help them first with the water?
Babies do that. What I find myself wondering when people complain about A.J. is: what would you rather? Are you suggesting the player should be able to leave Rebecca or the baby or that they should be killed?
Sadly I play as Clementine, and Clementine wouldn't do that, but if it were up to me.
I must have missed that. I've only been on this forum since October.
You just need to ask around why people killed him
Some will say because he was an ass, and of course if someone was an ass to you he deserves death
Others because he let you die in Ep 1, and they are totally right
Others because they are Kenny's dog.
But a lot of people said it because he was a liability to the group, an old man with heart problems was only going to be problems.
Jane was undergoing flashbacks and did not realize that there was a way of helping Sarah momentarily come back to reality; when she sees that Sarah has regained consciousness, she is quick to get her to safety.
In the trailer park, she just stands back and let's Clementine talk to her and the first sign that Sarah isn't emotional sound enough to move has her start to suggest they leave her. If Clementine persists, she continually pressures her to just do so, even getting heated towards her. It is only when Clementine gets Sarah to snap out of it and the walkers break open the door that she lifts Sarah up before Clementine for the sake of getting everyone out of there.
Jane is the last one to get out of the house, if you manage to convince Sarah she is almost attacked by a walker, does a selfish person do that?
If she was that selfish and hated Sarah she wouldn't have helped her, and she would have get out of the house first, instead of Luke.
When you have to choose between her and Sarah at the deck, she doesn't want to try and instead asks for Clementine to pull her up. Telling her to go anyway will because they can't just give up without trying has her reluctantly bite the bullet and go, essentially guilt tripped into doing so.
Sarah wasn't even trying, it was her own fault being in that position, after all she left the safe place to do what? watch the others kill zombies? Jane didn't wanted to die trying to save a crazy girl, which is totally logical.
Okay, this one is tricky because I can't seem to find any appropriate playthroughs to confirm it: I could've sworn there was an option to wait when Jane pleads for you to pull her up and leave Sarah. Doing so supposedly had her immediately let go of her own volition and try to save Sarah herself.
I did it in my second playthrough when I didn't let Sarah die first and she did that.
tries to save Sarah, twice.
* In the trailer park, she just stands back and let's Clementine talk to her and the first sign that S… morearah isn't emotional sound enough to move has her start to suggest they leave her. If Clementine persists, she continually pressures her to just do so, even getting heated towards her. It is only when Clementine gets Sarah to snap out of it and the walkers break open the door that she lifts Sarah up before Clementine for the sake of getting everyone out of there.
* When you have to choose between her and Sarah at the deck, she doesn't want to try and instead asks for Clementine to pull her up. Telling her to go anyway will because they can't just give up without trying has her reluctantly bite the bullet and go, essentially guilt tripped into doing so.
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Jane is the last one to get out of the house, if you manage to convince Sarah she is almost attacked by a walker, does a selfish person do that?
If she was that selfish and hated Sarah she wouldn't have helped her, and she would have get out of the house first, instead of Luke.
Pretty sure she had to do that, being the second tallest and all. Though I'd be singing a different tune if Sarah snapped out of her PTSD and suddenly escalated Jane's roomy rack through the roof with little issue.
Sarah wasn't even trying, it was her own fault being in that position, after all she left the safe place to do what? watch the others kill zombies? Jane didn't wanted to die trying to save a crazy girl, which is totally logical.
Sarah wasn't even trying? I guess struggling beneath some rubble she clearly can't lift herself isn't even trying. To answer the obvious question, Sarah falling does have a very easy to miss handwave beyond what one might assume:
Luke: We need EVERYONE out here!
Bonnie: Sarah honey, you just stay out of the way.
Yes, it is an infuriating handwave that, along with a few other details, makes me think that her being out there at all originally had a purpose; honestly, there are so many issues with that sequence in general.
And Jane isn't exactly sane herself, what's your point?
I did it in my second playthrough when I didn't let Sarah die first and she did that.
Really now? If that is true, then neat.
For some reason, moments like that are hard to find online. Such as telling Lilly about Lee's past after holding her back.
In the trailer park, she just stands back and let's Clementine talk to her and the first sign that Sarah isn't emotional sound enough to mov… moree has her start to suggest they leave her. If Clementine persists, she continually pressures her to just do so, even getting heated towards her. It is only when Clementine gets Sarah to snap out of it and the walkers break open the door that she lifts Sarah up before Clementine for the sake of getting everyone out of there.
Jane is the last one to get out of the house, if you manage to convince Sarah she is almost attacked by a walker, does a selfish person do that?
If she was that selfish and hated Sarah she wouldn't have helped her, and she would have get out of the house first, instead of Luke.
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That whole place was overrun by walkers. It was even more risky for AJ to go back there if the walkers didn't leave the place. AJ would starve to death. But Jane didn't care about the baby. She wanted Clem as her new sister, she wanted to be her own boss at Carver's camp since she knew the place instead of doing what Kenny says and also she wanted to get out of the cold.
Fair point but would you risk finding Wellington that was spread by rumors with incomprehensible media or go back to Howe's Hardware? The latter is not far away.
And I prefer going to back to the place I KNOW than wandering around looking for a fantasy, that was just real just for the sake of the plot, you imagine how Kenny ending would have been if they didn't found Wellington?, the baby was probably starving at the point they did, if they hadn't AJ would be dead.
While we know that in Carver's place there was milk for the baby.
Better playing safe in a goddamn zombie apocalypse.
That whole place was overrun by walkers. It was even more risky for AJ to go back there if the walkers didn't leave the place. AJ would star… moreve to death. But Jane didn't care about the baby. She wanted Clem as her new sister, she wanted to be her own boss at Carver's camp since she knew the place instead of doing what Kenny says and also she wanted to get out of the cold.
Actually, Jane's decisions put the group in progressively dire situations.
Demoralizing the group by consistently suggestions to leave the kids behind, shooting a guys dick off (who DOES that??), robbing and threatening Arvo which causes the group to be ambushed later, fooling around with the guy on walker duty thus causing the group to be blindsided by walkers during the birth, abandoning the group and leaving them to deal with the Arvo aftermath, saying fucked up shit about Kenny's family despite not being able to take the same from Rebecca, and of course her terrible stunt in which she abandoned an infant in a walker infested blizzard in order to upset Kenny and give her an excuse to murder him. All of these are completely antisocial and sociopathic decisions that had direct negative consequences that demoralized the group and led to its fracturing.
Not to say that Jane didn't also do some good stuff (because she definitely did), but it seems like you just took a very reasonable argument in favor of Kenny and just tried to substitute Jane's name. Sorry but it doesn't work like that. Jane simply cannot compare to the great man that is Kenneth, who always gives his all and comes through for the kids in Wellington. #TeamKenny
I disagree with OP entirely. Some people in this thread have mentioned that they should have went back to the Hardware Store. I disagree. That would have been in the opposite direction with limited supplies. They were closer to the location of Wellington anyway. The Store still had walkers everywhere and the Carver group was still there.
They didn't know Wellington was real.
Do you prefer to play safe or put all your cards on the table? you have a baby now, you can't risk you too much, he will cry a lot when he is hungry, that means he will yell for the walkers to eat everyone.
They knew there was food in Carver's place, and if there wasn't, well, they could have keep looking, instead of freezing their asses for a fantasy that might not be real.
I disagree with OP entirely. Some people in this thread have mentioned that they should have went back to the Hardware Store. I disagree. Th… moreat would have been in the opposite direction with limited supplies. They were closer to the location of Wellington anyway. The Store still had walkers everywhere and the Carver group was still there.
They were closer to Well by that time. With walkers everywhere and the group still there, it would have been nonsensical to return there to Howes. Read my Season 2 thread.
They didn't know Wellington was real.
Do you prefer to play safe or put all your cards on the table? you have a baby now, you can't risk yo… moreu too much, he will cry a lot when he is hungry, that means he will yell for the walkers to eat everyone.
They knew there was food in Carver's place, and if there wasn't, well, they could have keep looking, instead of freezing their asses for a fantasy that might not be real.
I disagree with OP entirely. Some people in this thread have mentioned that they should have went back to the Hardware Store. I disagree. Th… moreat would have been in the opposite direction with limited supplies. They were closer to the location of Wellington anyway. The Store still had walkers everywhere and the Carver group was still there.
Probably about three to five days away from Wellington. The Hardware Store was probably about three weeks to a month. Didn't Kenny say that they were in the North near Wellington ? The Hardware store was in the South.
They were closer to the location of Wellington anyway.
Now that much I agreed on--back then! Now, I'm questioning where Arvo's house and the rest stop were compared to these two locations.
At the very least, I do know that Wellington was supposed to be near Michigan and Howe's was in Tennessee because why not. I'll check the wiki for the other two places.
EDIT: Okay, apparently Arvo lives in North Carolina as well. ...What the fuck?
And the "Woodchuck Rest Area" is in Virginia.
Probably about three to five days away from Wellington. The Hardware Store was probably about three weeks to a month. Didn't Kenny say that they were in the North near Wellington ? The Hardware store was in the South.
you imagine how Kenny ending would have been if they didn't found Wellington?
Can you imagine if Carver's camp was still full of walkers and if there were still armed survivors from Carver's group inside? Come on, at least try to look at things from both sides instead of being completely biased. Both destinations were a risk, both were at the same distance apparently since it says 9 days later either you arrive at Howe's or Wellington. So let's not pretend there was a clear choice on which one was better at the time (without knowing the outcome) and that Wellington was just there "for the sake of the plot" when there was no way Howe's could be magically empty with no walkers or/and survivors in sight.
I don't care about the baby neither.
And I prefer going to back to the place I KNOW than wandering around looking for a fantasy, that was… more just real just for the sake of the plot, you imagine how Kenny ending would have been if they didn't found Wellington?, the baby was probably starving at the point they did, if they hadn't AJ would be dead.
While we know that in Carver's place there was milk for the baby.
Better playing safe in a goddamn zombie apocalypse.
No if THAT guy creates a post saying that Jane is a bitch, everyone who likes her is stupid and Telltale should delete her endings and say fuck you to the people who chose her.
No if THAT guy creates a post saying that Jane is a bitch, everyone who likes her is stupid and Telltale should delete her endings and say fuck you to the people who chose her.
No if THAT guy creates a post saying that Jane is a bitch, everyone who likes her is stupid and Telltale should delete her endings and say fuck you to the people who chose her.
Also Bonnie only said " I think Rebecca mentioned there should be a baby formula there". If you add that risk of not having a baby formula there too on top of possible walkers, it was more risky to go there. And if everything went according to the plan they still had to find more formula in other places. Kenny only took the less risky and more permenant solution for the baby. Jane tried to take the best solution for her. Not for AJ or Clem.
you imagine how Kenny ending would have been if they didn't found Wellington?
Can you imagine if Carver's camp was still full of wal… morekers and if there were still armed survivors from Carver's group inside? Come on, at least try to look at things from both sides instead of being completely biased. Both destinations were a risk, both were at the same distance apparently since it says 9 days later either you arrive at Howe's or Wellington. So let's not pretend there was a clear choice on which one was better at the time (without knowing the outcome) and that Wellington was just there "for the sake of the plot" when there was no way Howe's could be magically empty with no walkers or/and survivors in sight.
you imagine how Kenny ending would have been if they didn't found Wellington?
Can you imagine if Carver's camp was still full of wal… morekers and if there were still armed survivors from Carver's group inside? Come on, at least try to look at things from both sides instead of being completely biased. Both destinations were a risk, both were at the same distance apparently since it says 9 days later either you arrive at Howe's or Wellington. So let's not pretend there was a clear choice on which one was better at the time (without knowing the outcome) and that Wellington was just there "for the sake of the plot" when there was no way Howe's could be magically empty with no walkers or/and survivors in sight.
Actually, Jane's decisions put the group in progressively dire situations.
Demoralizing the group by consistently suggestions to leave th… moree kids behind, shooting a guys dick off (who DOES that??), robbing and threatening Arvo which causes the group to be ambushed later, fooling around with the guy on walker duty thus causing the group to be blindsided by walkers during the birth, abandoning the group and leaving them to deal with the Arvo aftermath, saying fucked up shit about Kenny's family despite not being able to take the same from Rebecca, and of course her terrible stunt in which she abandoned an infant in a walker infested blizzard in order to upset Kenny and give her an excuse to murder him. All of these are completely antisocial and sociopathic decisions that had direct negative consequences that demoralized the group and led to its fracturing.
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They were closer to Well by that time. With walkers everywhere and the group still there, it would have been nonsensical to return there to Howes. Read my Season 2 thread.
LOL, Arvo was literally only around because Jane had threatened and robbed him and he wanted revenge. Arvo would've had no reason to ambush the group and Kenny would've had no reason to beat him or take his prisoner if it weren't for Jane's foolish decisions.
Who gives a motherfucking damn what that guy did. Saying it's a joke and the size of this thread are a huge contradiction. This is more about convincing yourself, because you won't change people's minds beating a dead argument. Like Agent said, you are just as wrong for stooping to his level. I'd advise not keeping the same mentality when it comes to retaliation in the future.
Actually, Jane's decisions put the group in progressively dire situations.
Demoralizing the group by consistently suggestions to leave th… moree kids behind, shooting a guys dick off (who DOES that??), robbing and threatening Arvo which causes the group to be ambushed later, fooling around with the guy on walker duty thus causing the group to be blindsided by walkers during the birth, abandoning the group and leaving them to deal with the Arvo aftermath, saying fucked up shit about Kenny's family despite not being able to take the same from Rebecca, and of course her terrible stunt in which she abandoned an infant in a walker infested blizzard in order to upset Kenny and give her an excuse to murder him. All of these are completely antisocial and sociopathic decisions that had direct negative consequences that demoralized the group and led to its fracturing.
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Most people killed Larry because him reanimating and killing everyone was just as likely as him being fine. I have rarely seen people using any of your arguments, at least not outright naming them, though they probably played a part subconciously.
It takes two to have sex is what I meant.
But Jane was doing nothing, her job was done, why didn't Mark and Bonnie look out for Zomb… moreies if you help them first with the water?
Babies do that. What I find myself wondering when people complain about A.J. is: what would you rather? Are you suggesting the player should be able to leave Rebecca or the baby or that they should be killed?
Sadly I play as Clementine, and Clementine wouldn't do that, but if it were up to me.
I must have missed that. I've only been on this forum since October.
You just need to ask around why people killed him
Some will say because he was an ass, and of course if someone was an ass to you he deserves death
Others because he let you die in Ep 1, and they are totally right
Others because they are Kenny's dog.
But a lot of people said it because he was a liability to the group, an old man with heart problems was only going to be problems.
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So, one and a half points for Jane, I guess.
Yeah, that's why I didn't bother to say anything for the first post. There was nothing to say.
But Jane was doing nothing, her job was done, why didn't Mark and Bonnie look out for Zombies if you help them first with the water?
Sadly I play as Clementine, and Clementine wouldn't do that, but if it were up to me.
You just need to ask around why people killed him
Some will say because he was an ass, and of course if someone was an ass to you he deserves death
Others because he let you die in Ep 1, and they are totally right
Others because they are Kenny's dog.
But a lot of people said it because he was a liability to the group, an old man with heart problems was only going to be problems.
Sorry, I'll try harder next time.
Oh no, I played this game 2 years ago
Because some people didn't think to, or even that they could, do that when they played? Also, I asked this question before, but how did Luke and Jane literally fuck up that badly if you did go help Mike and Bonnie first?
Jane was undergoing flashbacks and did not realize that there was a way of helping Sarah momentarily come back to reality; when she sees that Sarah has regained consciousness, she is quick to get her to safety.
Jane is the last one to get out of the house, if you manage to convince Sarah she is almost attacked by a walker, does a selfish person do that?
If she was that selfish and hated Sarah she wouldn't have helped her, and she would have get out of the house first, instead of Luke.
Sarah wasn't even trying, it was her own fault being in that position, after all she left the safe place to do what? watch the others kill zombies? Jane didn't wanted to die trying to save a crazy girl, which is totally logical.
I did it in my second playthrough when I didn't let Sarah die first and she did that.
Pretty sure she had to do that, being the second tallest and all. Though I'd be singing a different tune if Sarah snapped out of her PTSD and suddenly escalated Jane's roomy rack through the roof with little issue.
Sarah wasn't even trying? I guess struggling beneath some rubble she clearly can't lift herself isn't even trying. To answer the obvious question, Sarah falling does have a very easy to miss handwave beyond what one might assume:
Yes, it is an infuriating handwave that, along with a few other details, makes me think that her being out there at all originally had a purpose; honestly, there are so many issues with that sequence in general.
And Jane isn't exactly sane herself, what's your point?
Really now? If that is true, then neat.
For some reason, moments like that are hard to find online. Such as telling Lilly about Lee's past after holding her back.
That whole place was overrun by walkers. It was even more risky for AJ to go back there if the walkers didn't leave the place. AJ would starve to death. But Jane didn't care about the baby. She wanted Clem as her new sister, she wanted to be her own boss at Carver's camp since she knew the place instead of doing what Kenny says and also she wanted to get out of the cold.
I don't care about the baby neither.
And I prefer going to back to the place I KNOW than wandering around looking for a fantasy, that was just real just for the sake of the plot, you imagine how Kenny ending would have been if they didn't found Wellington?, the baby was probably starving at the point they did, if they hadn't AJ would be dead.
While we know that in Carver's place there was milk for the baby.
Better playing safe in a goddamn zombie apocalypse.
Oh my fucking Godddddd
Is it not at all possible for Kenny and Jane to both be good people that tried to help the group?
Actually, Jane's decisions put the group in progressively dire situations.
Demoralizing the group by consistently suggestions to leave the kids behind, shooting a guys dick off (who DOES that??), robbing and threatening Arvo which causes the group to be ambushed later, fooling around with the guy on walker duty thus causing the group to be blindsided by walkers during the birth, abandoning the group and leaving them to deal with the Arvo aftermath, saying fucked up shit about Kenny's family despite not being able to take the same from Rebecca, and of course her terrible stunt in which she abandoned an infant in a walker infested blizzard in order to upset Kenny and give her an excuse to murder him. All of these are completely antisocial and sociopathic decisions that had direct negative consequences that demoralized the group and led to its fracturing.
Not to say that Jane didn't also do some good stuff (because she definitely did), but it seems like you just took a very reasonable argument in favor of Kenny and just tried to substitute Jane's name. Sorry but it doesn't work like that. Jane simply cannot compare to the great man that is Kenneth, who always gives his all and comes through for the kids in Wellington. #TeamKenny
As a side note, this thread is basically plagiarism and is an illogical distortion of a very well written post from another user. You should feel bad
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I disagree with OP entirely. Some people in this thread have mentioned that they should have went back to the Hardware Store. I disagree. That would have been in the opposite direction with limited supplies. They were closer to the location of Wellington anyway. The Store still had walkers everywhere and the Carver group was still there.
They didn't know Wellington was real.
Do you prefer to play safe or put all your cards on the table? you have a baby now, you can't risk you too much, he will cry a lot when he is hungry, that means he will yell for the walkers to eat everyone.
They knew there was food in Carver's place, and if there wasn't, well, they could have keep looking, instead of freezing their asses for a fantasy that might not be real.
They were closer to Well by that time. With walkers everywhere and the group still there, it would have been nonsensical to return there to Howes. Read my Season 2 thread.
Now that much I agreed on--back then! Now, I'm questioning where Arvo's house and the rest stop were compared to these two locations.
Probably about three to five days away from Wellington. The Hardware Store was probably about three weeks to a month. Didn't Kenny say that they were in the North near Wellington ? The Hardware store was in the South.
At the very least, I do know that Wellington was supposed to be near Michigan and Howe's was in Tennessee because why not. I'll check the wiki for the other two places.
EDIT: Okay, apparently Arvo lives in North Carolina as well. ...What the fuck?
And the "Woodchuck Rest Area" is in Virginia.
You give too much credit.
Obvious troll is obvious.
There was no mask in this post.
Can you imagine if Carver's camp was still full of walkers and if there were still armed survivors from Carver's group inside? Come on, at least try to look at things from both sides instead of being completely biased. Both destinations were a risk, both were at the same distance apparently since it says 9 days later either you arrive at Howe's or Wellington. So let's not pretend there was a clear choice on which one was better at the time (without knowing the outcome) and that Wellington was just there "for the sake of the plot" when there was no way Howe's could be magically empty with no walkers or/and survivors in sight.
No if THAT guy creates a post saying that Jane is a bitch, everyone who likes her is stupid and Telltale should delete her endings and say fuck you to the people who chose her.
No if THAT guy creates a post saying that Jane is a bitch, everyone who likes her is stupid and Telltale should delete her endings and say fuck you to the people who chose her.
Well THAT guy is just as wrong as you are.
Hey I did this post as a joke, not because I think people who like Kenny deserve to die or something like that.
Also Bonnie only said " I think Rebecca mentioned there should be a baby formula there". If you add that risk of not having a baby formula there too on top of possible walkers, it was more risky to go there. And if everything went according to the plan they still had to find more formula in other places. Kenny only took the less risky and more permenant solution for the baby. Jane tried to take the best solution for her. Not for AJ or Clem.
Double post edit.
Kenny beating of Arvo ultimately led to the group's fracturing.
Wellington is the worst option for the group. What would've happened when Kenny, Luke, Jane, Bonnie, Mike and Arvo arrived there?
They probably would've said their tearful goodbyes to Clementine and you just see everyone give Kenny the stink eye as the gate closes.
Also, wouldn't Arvo count as a minor or was it explicitly because Clementine had a baby?
All these arguments about what plan would have been better.
Season two takes place in Tennessee....Wellington is in Ohio.
Going back to Howes was the right plan.
LOL, Arvo was literally only around because Jane had threatened and robbed him and he wanted revenge. Arvo would've had no reason to ambush the group and Kenny would've had no reason to beat him or take his prisoner if it weren't for Jane's foolish decisions.
Who gives a motherfucking damn what that guy did. Saying it's a joke and the size of this thread are a huge contradiction. This is more about convincing yourself, because you won't change people's minds beating a dead argument. Like Agent said, you are just as wrong for stooping to his level. I'd advise not keeping the same mentality when it comes to retaliation in the future.
Oh my brotha! TESTIFY!
Most people killed Larry because him reanimating and killing everyone was just as likely as him being fine. I have rarely seen people using any of your arguments, at least not outright naming them, though they probably played a part subconciously.