So when was the change finally known?
I know the Lilly from the game was originally supposed to be the same Lilly that killed the Governor and that was changed when the novel series depicted Lilly from the comic as being an entirely different character from the Lilly in the game. Was the change known though even before season 1 was completed or was Lilly from the game still considered to be the Lilly from Woodbury by the time the game was finished.
I'm honestly a little surprised that there wasn't more communication between Kirkman/Skybound/TellTale then there seemed to be at the time. Surely TellTale would have known that a novel series depicting that character was in development. Or did they just hear about it too late and there wasn't enough time to completely change the character of game Lilly and give her a new name and new character design?
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That's a good question. From what I see here, A New Day was released in April 24, 2012, while Road to Woodbury was released October 16 of the same year. So the change would've either been known by TellTale around the same time the fourth episode had finished production or the release of the book simply blindsided them. The unused plans for Lilly to return in the final episode suggests the former.
Honestly, that discrepancy is one of the biggest reasons why I hope Lilly is brought back at some point.
The achievement that the player accomplished once Lilly left the group in "Long Road Ahead" used to be titled "Woodbury Bound" when the episode was released, but it was changed promptly to "Now What?"
This suggests that Lilly was meant to be the same character as the one who kills The Governor all along during her entire stay in Season One.
I would love to see Lilly again. I always felt that she got the shaft big time in the group. But She did kill Carley and Doug....it could be awkward. I would like to think Clementine would be forgiving and at least give her a chance.
Same.
Yep. And quite honestly it is surprising that all these people working within this sandbox didn't talk to eachother about future plans. Road to Woodbury wasn't even the first novel released in that series (though it was the first novel depicting Lilly Caul) and there had to have been plans to bring Lilly into the novel series all the way back in 2011.
It almost seems like everyone was pretty much just doing their own thing within the TWD universe back then. Maybe that is why TellTale chose to tell a story completely removed from the comic storyline for season 2. Where as now for season 3 they seem to have Kirkman's backing so they are tying things in closer to the comic again.
The novels are usually regarded as semi-canon.
However the hell that works.
They take a lot of artistic liberties, but the core story is canon. That's what people mean with semi-canon.
Lilly was supposed to return?
But she wasn't the same Lilly anyway because their fathers were different.
Sony is asking about the relation that Lilly of the video game used to have with Lilly of the comic series, not Lilly of the novels.
I thought comic Lilly is the same as novel Lilly.
Yes. Gawin Hammon(Kenny) revealed in an interview that there was a scene planned where she would show up in the RV but it didn't get used for whatever reason.
There was a scene planned where she would return with the RV, but they never made it.
They weren't always the same.
Comic Lilly wasn't originally planned to become a novel character.
Yeah there are a lot of things from the novels that shouldn't be taken seriously (such as the Underground Railroad stuff and complete and total gaffs when it comes to timelines and character consistency (which I think is due in large part because there is virtually no editing done to it)).
But the core story of the survivors of Woodbury being lead by Lilly Caul trying to bring back their town is meant to be taken as canon.
I thought comic Lilly is the same as novel Lilly.
Lilly Caul from the novels starting in Road to Woodbury is stated as being a completely different character than Lilly from the game. Lilly Caul was younger than game Lilly. Went to Georgia Tech and her dad definitely was not Larry.
Road to Woodbury wasn't released until after Lilly's time in the game was completed so that is why there is so much confusion because TellTale originally created game Lilly to be the same Lilly from the comics because Lilly Caul did not yet exist.
I thought Lilly Caul was also a character in the comics, essentially meaning that there are three versions that are/were meant to be one and the same.
Lilly is in the comics (though I am not sure she had the last name of Caul back then) and was a very short run character mainly created to be the person that would kill the Governor. Lilly was created in 2008 and virtually had no story created for her other than strictly being the one who killed the Governor. She did not go with Rick's group and the last we saw of her in the comic was her leading a group of the Woodbury survivors into the prison as a zombie horde was coming in. That is all we knew of the character of Lilly for several years after her creation.
Then once the tv show hit and the popularity of the franchise grew immensely it started becoming possible to give characters like Lilly their own story. A novel was released in 2011 telling us how the Governor found his way to Woodbury (Lilly was not in that one).
Then 2012 hit and the TellTale game was released as well as the second novel in the Walking Dead series called Road to Woodbury (telling Lilly's backstory). So at that point we had two different backstories for the character of Lilly in the comic. It really was a no brainer that the novel would overwrite the TellTale game because the novel had Robert Kirkman's name on it and supposedly the story was outlined by him and then given to Bonansinga to turn it into a complete book. And so the scrapped backstory was thus turned into an entirely different character.