WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH TWD SEASON 3!? (MY OPINION) SPOILERS!!!!

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  • I think it was less about boring newcomers and more about being too lazy - I feel as though they only worked on 4 episodes for Season Three but since Episode 1 was of similar length to a single episode of Season One, they decided to make it five :x

    To be honest, I think characters started feeling out of character from around Episode 4 of Season Two on-wards.

    RuffPuff posted: »

    I'm surprised you couldn't shoot Kenny to stop him from turning. The only way he can go without turning is if Clem murders him after he murd

  • The flashbacks were poorly done because TTG had no intention of following through on any other ending other than Clem Alone. Think about it. It's what they pushed everyone toward in Episode 5 with the dozen options we got to abandon the characters.

    I feel sorry for anyone who thought TTG had any intention of allowing our choices to interfere in the story they want to tell. Our choices don't matter.

  • Omid's catOmid's cat Banned
    edited December 2016

    "HE DIES IN A FUCKING CAR CRASH, AND NOT EVEN AN ACTION PACKED ONE OR SOMETHING ... UGH".

    So did Paul Walker. Or Lawrence of Arabia. Shit happens. You can't plan your death. Unless you're suicide.

  • The series of flashbacks idea was what i was thinking that wouldve been ok a bit like the Michonne game but improved

    Deltino posted: »

    You know, I don't even necessarily think it's the deaths themselves that are the problem. It's that they literally invalidated the S2 ending

  • it's more that one team [ the tales from the borderlands/batman] saw the issues with season 2 of twd and went out of their way not to do it. while the walking dead team has no idea what to do.

    wdfan posted: »

    Don't mean to offend anyone or critisize too much but I think it has to do with Telltale being involved in a lot of other projects and not h

  • edited December 2016

    you say that but new comers would get the alone ending anyways. anf is pretty much a soft reboot. clem's story should have ended in season 2.

    RuffPuff posted: »

    I'm surprised you couldn't shoot Kenny to stop him from turning. The only way he can go without turning is if Clem murders him after he murd

  • different team. batman besides from tech issues is pretty solid from what i hear as i have no played it. and your choices matter alot in the last episode is something i heard from a review.

    J-Master posted: »

    This is the 400 days cast all over again. Telltale flat out lies to the fans and the cast gets watered down considerably to suit whatever Te

  • They had 2 years to plan their death

    Omid's cat posted: »

    "HE DIES IN A FUCKING CAR CRASH, AND NOT EVEN AN ACTION PACKED ONE OR SOMETHING ... UGH". So did Paul Walker. Or Lawrence of Arabia. Shit happens. You can't plan your death. Unless you're suicide.

  • Kenny's death felt like slapstick. It made me laugh.

  • i don't know what you were expecting. both characters became determinant in ep5 and you know by now what that means.

    plus them saying alone is the default if you did not import should have rang some bells.

    i am importing a stay in wellington ending so i won't see this up roar.

  • Having just seen both Kenny/Jane's deaths, I'm seriously disappointed and sad to see that, once again, Telltale are misleading their fans into thinking that your choice in previous instalments will actually leave a fucking impact, which of course, it never fucking does. It's a complete slap in the face for those who choose to stay with either character, expecting to see them again and hoping, as this is the wonderful "choice" based Telltale, who certainty had enough time developing the game, that they might start improving on the way they treat determinant characters. But nah, that would require actual effort, something Telltale obviously have no fucking intention of trying out anymore.

    But they didn't just stop there either. No, because even though they proved they were too lazy to actually try and make changes with their treatment of previous game choices, they had to go a step forward in the lazy fucking scale and throw together 5 minute flashbacks of god awfully written deaths of said characters, which in Jane's case, even go against their original personality. Kenny's death was shit, there's no doubt about that, but at least, it still felt like him, personality wise. Jane killing herself and this isn't coming from a fan of hers, made no sense at all and just makes the character look incredibly selfish and goes against her whole survivor persona in the second series. It's pure and utter horse shit. Seriously.

    And the fucking character models...I mean, what in the actual fuck are those things?

  • edited December 2016

    Damn, everyone here roasting Telltale so damn bad. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a telltale employee somewhere out there crying them self to sleep lol. But I have no sympathy for them, this is what they get for not putting in any good effort.

  • I can't stand Jane at all and I never have. I told her to burn in Hell as she was dying in Season 2. I did, not Clem, as it wasn't an option lol. Yet this was messed up. Suicide ? The survival at all costs Jane....kills herself. Why not a surprise attack by a Walker on the leg and she falls and gets crowded by them if you are going for a death scene ? The fact also that she was pregnant makes me sick to my stomach. She not only killed herself, she also killed a baby. Kenny, my man, after reading about his death I'm shocked. This was the most off the wall death I've ever read about. Is this really a joke or what ? Tell me it was just a nightmare like the beginning of episode 1 of Back to the Future. Why not have Kenny or Jane leading walkers away from Clem and AJ and give them proper hero deaths. They give Rodrick or Asher (Rodrick lol in my game) a hero death and we've known Kenny and Jane for longer. A powerful moment of holding Kenny's hand one last time as he says with a tear in his eye "I love you like a daughter Clem. Take care of AJ for me. Now get the **** out of here. I said get the **** out of here now !" as he starts killing tons of walkers singlehandedly, then is finally taken down.

  • You're right, that was a pretty stupid oversight on my part.

    megamike15 posted: »

    you say that but new comers would get the alone ending anyways. anf is pretty much a soft reboot. clem's story should have ended in season 2.

  • The petition thing most likely wont do anything but I do want the writers to open their eyes and wake the fuck up so yeah id sign

    Team__Kenny posted: »

    Well I really hope that after seeing the reaction to ANF they will rewrite the episodes (or at least some parts, they did the same with the

  • All people wanted was for Kenny/Jane to get The Carley/Doug Treatment at least. They had two fucking years to work on this game.

    No excuse

    megamike15 posted: »

    i don't know what you were expecting. both characters became determinant in ep5 and you know by now what that means. plus them saying alo

  • I would have loved this.

    I can't stand Jane at all and I never have. I told her to burn in Hell as she was dying in Season 2. I did, not Clem, as it wasn't an option

  • Doing it like Borderlands where the time is at least split would be a thousand times better than this. I'm some new guy I don't care about while the MAIN PERSON of the series is next to me at times and im presented with choices to disagree with her? Really?

  • Am I the only one who doesn't mind how Kenny and Jane were killed off? I expected it to happen. And Jane's death in my opinion was really well done. Kenny's death was good but Jane's death had more impact and I like Kenny more.

  • Well The Wolf Among Us EP 2 was fully rewritten, but that was pre-release.

    I dont understand the thinking behind this from Telltale they had nearly 3 YEARS to think about what couldve happened to them and they obvio

  • It's been two years and I'm STILL so angry over Eddie's no show in EP4. I remember what they said about the third episode 'the butterfly effect' or some shit to do with the 400 days characters and the most that happens is literally one line from each and that's it. I'm genuinely really curious what the development cycle of S2 was near the end, It just went crazy.

    J-Master posted: »

    This is the 400 days cast all over again. Telltale flat out lies to the fans and the cast gets watered down considerably to suit whatever Te

  • edited December 2016

    It was obvious that both were going to die, yet I really wanted them to be given a good heroic death. Suicide for the most ridiculous reason and a freak accident car crash are ridiculous. Especially when Kenny to me and to many people is a hero. Kenny who has been with us since episode 1 at the beginning. His character growth, his determination, etc.

    Kenny is my second favorite character after Lee. Kenny was willing to sacrifice himself so that Lee could buy time to get back to Clem. Kenny took a beating so that Clem wouldn't suffer from Carver. Now it seems that Clem will forever blame herself for his death.

    I mean even the car crash was so poorly done as there was nothing in the road, lol, she just starts swerving. I cannot accept that. I have no desire to play this game anymore as TT has again hurt the fan base and this was such a horrible writing error. I'm going to say in my canon that Kenny, AJ, and Clem leave Wellington with a few like minded survivors during the Summer. Kenny and his friends build a boat and they all sail on the coast and wait out the apocalypse.

    All people wanted was for Kenny/Jane to get The Carley/Doug Treatment at least. They had two fucking years to work on this game. No excuse

  • AJ is probably going to die and it will be worse

  • Like Clem leaves him at the new frontier

    AJ is probably going to die and it will be worse

  • i thought so too but didnt want to seem like an ass cause shit like that happens in real life fnkjhglkhdlghkdslhglh

    Harian96 posted: »

    Kenny's death felt like slapstick. It made me laugh.

  • Omid's catOmid's cat Banned
    edited December 2016

    I bet they didn't plan that long. A day or less.

    They had 2 years to plan their death

  • I think i'll just leave this here

  • It'd be pretty cool to see what they'd do on a boat, actually. Maybe they'd end up finding some kind of port town in Florida to stay in, or maybe even some kind of island (with all of the Survivor references to boot xD)

    It was obvious that both were going to die, yet I really wanted them to be given a good heroic death. Suicide for the most ridiculous reason

  • edited December 2016

    I don't understand how people can say "Well Omid and Christa were killed off quick." That doesn't make any sense. Yeah I was mad that they were killed off quickly and were wasted potential and yet they were still new and 50/50 to us. Kenny and Jane were the player's Lee of Season 2 in the grand scheme of things.

    Did you cry when Ben or Larry died ? No, that's because they weren't as important as Lee. If Lee got thrown out of a car and eaten, you'd be upset. If Lee used a noose on himself, you'd be upset. He was given a heroes death and that's what we expected for Kenny and Jane in this season.

    I'm sorry but I have spent two games with Kenny and he is Clem's adopted uncle in my story. For him to be given a weak Nick or Luke death is absurd. I've always hated Jane and for her to be given such a poor death is absurd. She is also a major character to others.

    One might say, well concentrate on the now. I disagree with that as I've watched Clem and Kenny grow under my choices and for them to be thrown away, hurts me. Imagine if Daryl or Rick were given cheap deaths on the show, many would be upset as they have watched them grow as characters.

  • Yeah, that sounds about right, with some precedence set in Episode 3.

    prink34320 posted: »

    I think it was less about boring newcomers and more about being too lazy - I feel as though they only worked on 4 episodes for Season Three

  • edited December 2016

    Kenny's death was shit, there's no doubt about that, but at least, it still felt like him, personality wise.

    Same. In fact, I think that's a large part of why I thought it was fine.

    Jane killing herself and this isn't coming from a fan of hers, made no sense at all and just makes the character look incredibly selfish and goes against her whole survivor persona in the second series.

    You know, the funny thing about that is not only was it kinda predictable but I actually thought she might do something like that for a while now.

    OneWayNoWay posted: »

    Having just seen both Kenny/Jane's deaths, I'm seriously disappointed and sad to see that, once again, Telltale are misleading their fans in

  • And Jane's death in my opinion was really well done.

    Oh nononono...I think you got that a little mixed up, buddy.

  • @Vaxij @Deltino Both of you, masterfully said. I can relate, Vax. TWD & Kenny in particular has been a huge part of my life ever since Season 1 and the feeling of him being ripped away so quickly is worse than getting kicked in the balls 100 times. I've already written big statements about the flashbacks and I'm kind of exhausted so I'm just gonna sum it up by saying how much I love Kenny, how much better he deserved, and how much I wanna punch the writers of this season in the nards.

  • This is my main gripe so far. Not the only one, I was never a huge Kenny or Jane fan, but their fans definitely deserved better. To make such abrupt scenes so they can resume separating ANF from the rest of the series was in poor taste. My biggest issue as of now is far and above the way they're handling Clem, very short sequences with her and she's in the background for a majority of the time. Hell, when we left the airfield I didn't even know she was still with us, I watched them leave and thought "wait, I didn't see her with any of them, they just leave her?" Then she pops up loitering in the back during another scene.

    I might have to play through them again sometime once the disappointment fades, but as of now I really don't care about any of the new characters. The reveal at the end of episode 2 didn't really do much for me, and these guys have, what, been randomly driving around siphoning gas from junk yards for 4 years? I dunno, after the extremely long wait since S2 ending I'd been hoping to catch up on the characters I actually know, not start over and watch them written into irrelevance.

    PHub07 posted: »

    Doing it like Borderlands where the time is at least split would be a thousand times better than this. I'm some new guy I don't care about w

  • Lily finds them but accidentally dies because she trips and catches a cold.

    Gabedawg posted: »

    The appearance of Zombie Lee causes Clementine to freak out and die in a tragic car accident. This is followed by the return of Christa, who proceeds to hang herself out of grief.

  • Luckily, we still have the first two seasons to look back at-- or just the first one, if you weren't the biggest fan of S2

    I've been feeling pretty bummed out the past few days trying to come to terms with S3 just not living up to expectations. After four years, it really feels like the end of an era, and not in a good way. It's a shame, because this series has left a significant impact on me. I've played a ton of games, but I've never been as emotionally attached to a game as I have TWD. Both seasons left a very good impression on me. Michonne, too. I don't want to have to witness this series fall from grace. And that's partly because there's not many other games to fill the void this one leaves-- at least not for me. There's some other great games that come quite close to TWD (and are probably even better than TWD for some people) in terms of emotional attachment/involvement-- like The Last of Us-- but it's just not the same. And for me, that's a pretty hard pill to swallow.

    BroKenny posted: »

    @Vaxij @Deltino Both of you, masterfully said. I can relate, Vax. TWD & Kenny in particular has been a huge part of my life ever since S

  • Dude I can't wait to go back and replay S1 in like 5 years where I've forgotten a whole lot about the game! That would be awesome! :P I certainly know what you mean. None of this just has the feel that Season 1 did. And to be honest, I liked Season 2. I thought All That Remains was crap but I liked the other episodes because they certainly catered to a Kenny fan like myself. I just almost kinda feel betrayed, you know? All this time with him, and he's gone. I guess all we can do is just switch to the Wellington ending and hope he's out there somewhere!

    Deltino posted: »

    Luckily, we still have the first two seasons to look back at-- or just the first one, if you weren't the biggest fan of S2 I've been feel

  • Hell, when we left the airfield I didn't even know she was still with us, I watched them leave and thought "wait, I didn't see her with any of them, they just leave her?" Then she pops up loitering in the back during another scene.

    I thought the same thing during the escape from Prescott.

  • I'm going to start cutting every time i hear "thats how the world works" when people describe Season 3.

    Piggs posted: »

    HE DIES IN A FUCKING CAR CRASH, AND NOT EVEN AN ACTION PACKED ONE OR SOMETHING ... UGH Not everyone gets an honorable death in TWD. That's just how the world works.

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