I don't really like Kate.
I think she's an okay character but there is a lot about her that is unlikable. She smokes in front of the kids and knows there's walkers around her, she flirts with Javier when she's still married (I know David's an ass but still), she holds hands with Javi when she knows David is coming in the room (wtf?), she's pretty irresponsible when it comes to making decisions, she has yet to be really helpful with anything, she runs out and get shot like an idiot and she's probably going to die because you can't magically heal from sepsis and a gunshot wound, she has this depressing aura about her, and she's probably going to be this helpless thing that we can't save since she can't walk and pretty much has been sleeping this whole time. I like her more as a side character rather than a main character because there's just nothing interesting about her. She sort of has this cliche back story - the abusive husband, drug abuse, stepmom... I've heard it all before. I know this sound bad, but I wouldn't really care if she died. She's just really boring to me.
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I think Kate was trapped in a relationship and she didn't have guts to escape from it. She was looking for a fresh start, in which Javi could've helped her, but she was uncertain how to handle it.
She keeps track of everything they own, watch out for the herd and calculates its pace, hands out responsibilities and in the meantime tries to raise her husband's kids.
In that situation I doubt anyone could think straight. She cared for this little girl and tried to save her, what's so complicated about it?
Wasn't she also the one who coughed whIle they were hiding under the floor door? That was dumb. How have these people survived for so long?
What annoys me the most is that Telltale could've REALLY made this first two-part episode LONG.
IF they had more Clementine flashbacks, AND Javier flashbacks on how they survived and what difficulties they experienced with the apocalypse. Imagine season 1 and 2, considerably shortened into a single episode of flashbacks for Javier. It seems like an unrealistic expectation, but it would solve the pacing issue and the development with the characters.
I understand why she ran out to help Mariana but it was really dumb of her to go when she knows there's dozens of guns firing at them. I get that her relationship is horrible but she's not making it better by causing more drama. She should've gotten help from someone else other than Javi especially when David doesn't really like Javi. Maybe call talk to her parents or a counselor. And I suppose she's somewhat responsible but a lot of the choices she makes are questionable.
If we look at the exact situation, everyone was running around like idiots, Gabe, Javi, Tripp/Eleanor, even Clem. They ran to cover, but still ran. Could've been shot any second in any place. The unexpected plot strike is the reason that only Kate got shot.
We don't really know much about Kate's marriage, so let's not jump to conclusion. Maybe she was tired, scared or overwhelmed, perhaps David was an abusive husband/father.
THIS. This is the reason I think introducing a whole new group was a bad idea. They survived multiple years without a scratch somehow, then all of a sudden we start focusing on them and they all start dying.
It's the Clem curse.
Everyone she gets to know and love ends up dying.
I really like Kate, she's probably my favorite NPC in season 3.
Also, I dont feel like its fair to blame Kate for flirting with Javier. Yeah before the out break, yes I can see how people see the wrongness (which I feel like everyone sees/gets) but at the same time, David seems to not be a very good person, which is probably what promoted Kate to do that. And I mean, come on, after the zombie outbreak, its been 4 years sense Im assuming she thought David was dead, I think she is allowed to move on.
This is my thoughts exactly.
Exactly. I mean come on like you said it has been 4 years into the apocalypse and she and everyone assumes David is dead. Plus spend 4 years with the same person it is only logical you'd develop feeling for them. As for the flirting before the apocalypse well I agree it seems like David wasn't a particularly good husband. Honestly make me wonder why Kate married him.
ur prof pic!!!
o my ass is that lee? hot damn
Im guessing next flashback will probbaly focus more on David, but maybe during that we will find out how they met and were married, maybe even more about David's Ex-Wife
I like her. A lot. Probably my favorite character from this season.
Ahh the cliché this is cliché post.
You know why clichés are clichés? The same reason sterotypes are so pervasive in media. They have strong basis in fact and normalcy that they are oft repeated. After thousands of years of story telling there are very few things that we have not seen on the screens and pages of our favorite entertainment. Even the cliché post. Hell even posts pointing out that cliché posts are cliché are cliché. There are things that you can genuinely gripe about the characters in a given season. But clichés are not one of them.
However let us take a look at Kate Garcia and see what kind of character she is.
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I would rate her as a strong character...probably gonna die...I hope not but you know how these cliché stories are
She's okish but it seems she's more a focus since David is the leader of the NF and she's the hinted romance for Javier. I could very well see a Carly situation with Kate.
C'mon dont say that, Im sure Telltale wouldn't kill another great character in a pretty stupid way, especially when theres gonna be some juicy Javi and David drama! Right...?
JavixEleanor >>>>>>>
I feel the same way
Also she doesn't care much about David's kids and she is also pretty careless.
Yeah, because clearly looking after them for four entire years doesn't in anyway reflect care. Nor does rushing out to save Mariana, putting her own safety at risk, either.
Well... lol
Come on guys
I sure hope that's not from that Batman game.
Most of her dialogue makes me roll my eyes, also she doesnt feel like a survivor she feels like a sitcom mom
Get out.
those droopy eyes are going to fall.
Is it because of the weed? Is it because she wants to bang? Is it because after 4 years she finally asks how the kids are adapting and changing because of the world they live in?
Glad to see this thread exists. Last time I wrote I find Kate unlikeable my post was removed by moderator.
I won't like a character based on Lindsay Lohan.
Why was the pro Kate thread deleted?
Erm, they literally just saw Mari getting shot right in the middle of her forehead. I don't believe Kate is that dumb to think she can save her at that point? What she says is "We can't leave her" which is fine, but you don't just run into the bullets to retrieve a dead corpse, no matter how much you care for that person, unless you want to be a dead corpse as well. How about deal with the guys with guns first and then go get the girl? I mean, sure in the heat of the moment, people usually don't think straight, but considering it's 4 years into the apocalypse, you'd think they would know by now how to be safe and deal with things? I find it so hard to believe that in all those years they NEVER encountered pissed off guys with guns or any kind of danger. Maybe this is just bad writing from Telltale, I don't know... But either way, it makes her character look reckless and irresponsible.
Sure, they might have dealt with people dying before, but this time it was their own kid shot dead in front of their eyes. Do you know what would you do in that situation? I don't. Remember Sarah whose dad was devoured right by her side? Later on she was paralized with fear. And Kate was the opposite, she went crazy for a moment.
That was the plot cough. Such a deadly disease.
I certainly wouldn't fly in front of the bullets. Every playthrough I watched, people were like "Wtf are you doing, that's so dumb" (others weren't so polite lol) so, that kind of thing doesn't leave a good impression on a character at all, because no matter how much she cared for Mari, it's a stupid thing to do. It would be an entirely different situation if Mari was still alive, kind of like how Clem runs to pick up AJ during the shooting in season 2. But she wasn't, and they all knew that. I get that her intentions were good, but it doesn't mean it wasn't stupid and irresponsible, which was what the OP was trying to say.
First off, don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Kate myself. I just try to understand her actions and for me it's unexpected what people will do in certain situations. others don't really have the right to judge it ever since they don't have comparable experience. We can only guess and it was just my opinion.
We certainly know she was scared of David, as she is terrified of how he will react to a broken glass when she is bleeding profusely, and his first reaction is to get angry at her and not ask her if she's okay. Everything points to him being at least fairly abusive.
I'm not saying the opposite, but you can't deny that is still an irresponsible thing to do. She could get shot by any other means. So it's either bad writing from Telltale or they wanted to show us she cared for Mari so much that all the intelligent cells flew from her brain at that point. Which is also hard for me to believe, since not even Mari's brother and uncle did something so desperate like that. It seems a bit forced, specially considering how she previously acts around the kids and talks about them. I'm sure she cares for them, don't get me wrong, but to care to the point where she risks her life and does something so desperate like that (when Mari is already dead) is a bit out of nowhere and not believable. I don't know, that's how I feel anyway.
Finally someone said it. I hope my Javier doesn't get dragged into some boring love triangle between Javier/David/Kate. I think I will stick with Eleanor, thank you. She's more attractive anyway.
Also am I the only one to notice Eleanor looks like a grown-up Mariana?
I felt the same way about her. It is why I played Javi to always reject her advances.
David tells Javi that he loves him on the porch after the fight. Regardless of what an ass he can be there was no way I was going to play Kate's games.