The way Javi can bring up to Kate in Episode 1 about David getting people into his way of thinking, and Kate mentioning David wanting to change her is one obvious signs to me too about claiming dominance over other people.
Its actually interesting that you brought this up. I questioned what Javier exactly meant when he says this about David. It gives me a small theory about David, as he is the supposed leader of the New frontier. This may be very silly , but what if his way of thinking ties along with the ideology of communism? think about it, it seems that based on his behavior that we have seen in the flashbacks thus far, he likes to control other people. his way of getting people into his way of thinking could be expressed through how he runs his group in episode three and beyond. Now communism, as many see this ideology, is not about forcing people to change, but this is where the idea of dominance and control comes in, where Forcing is emphasized. This is where the individual's life is being controlled, with a lack of freedom as some see it. This lack of freedom for example can be seen through Max and Badger taking orders ( the "Go Ahead") on who to attack. Now this is interesting because Badger in episode 2 says "Fuck the Go Ahead" and attacks Prescott anyway, expressing a desire to break away from the ruling.
another example is, of course, the brand. the brand could be a symbol of possessiveness, a way for David to keep track of his people. We can assume that he has forced everyone to get this brand in order to stay in his camp. the last example can be seen through the act of the NF taking over Richmond. David who supposedly ordered this take over, is forcing his way into a community and is now in control.
Overall my theory is that the controlling and dominating nature of David could represent his way of thinking, which kind of matches up with the ideology of communism.
Lol I hope that this makes sense XD. This is just my thought. Hope you and everyone else likes the theory , also it feels good to be back on here!
As someone who's all too familiar with this from a family relative, I'm convinced David shows strong signs of an abuser, if only on the ment… moreal abusive side of things. The way Kate was stressing out about the glass gave me a lot of concern and hit me hard, because I've been in that same place stressing about things worrying how so and so will react and if it'll be verbally aggressive [you even have Kate bringing up in that same scene David got angry if she didn't wash up good enough like he's some controlling perfectionist.]
That's sort of the thing about domestic abusers [man or woman] they don't even have to violently harm you with a beating, their words can be enough and most the time they might be the greatest person ever, and then they'll snap and they change into this completely different person who will bully and put you down. Then later they'll apologize and ask for your forgiveness, and you will because you love them. It's basicall… [view original content]
I don't think he was abusive to her in the traditional sense, but he does have a hair trigger temper and will take his anger out on others. I think he's just an asshole basically.
I barely touch Reddit since its community is awful other than a few niche subreddits, and no, all we do is shitpost about Arvo. Half the threads are just "FUCK ARVO", "yeah fuck that arvo guy" "commie piece of shit", etc. Just go on it, you've got nothing to lose, it's a pretty fun subreddit once in a while when you really feel like hating on Arvo.
I don't do reddit and what, do you guys say things like,
"That fucker shot Clem!"
"He deserves to die!"
"He killed Luke!"
"He lied abo… moreut his sister!"
"He brought his group to confront Clementine!"
._.
Cuz I got valid arguments for all of those kinds of things.
I barely touch Reddit since its community is awful other than a few niche subreddits, and no, all we do is shitpost about Arvo. Half the thr… moreeads are just "FUCK ARVO", "yeah fuck that arvo guy" "commie piece of shit", etc. Just go on it, you've got nothing to lose, it's a pretty fun subreddit once in a while when you really feel like hating on Arvo.
The way Javi can bring up to Kate in Episode 1 about David getting people into his way of thinking, and Kate mentioning David wanting to cha… morenge her is one obvious signs to me too about claiming dominance over other people.
Its actually interesting that you brought this up. I questioned what Javier exactly meant when he says this about David. It gives me a small theory about David, as he is the supposed leader of the New frontier. This may be very silly , but what if his way of thinking ties along with the ideology of communism? think about it, it seems that based on his behavior that we have seen in the flashbacks thus far, he likes to control other people. his way of getting people into his way of thinking could be expressed through how he runs his group in episode three and beyond. Now communism, as many see this ideology, is not about forcing people to change, but this is where the idea of dominance and control comes in, where Forc… [view original content]
Arvo should've died the second we killed his men, you can't defend what he did, no matter how nice you were to him he'll always screw you guys over. I don't get why Telltale was trying to make me think Kenny was losing it for beating Arvo up, he deserved every bit of it.
Arvo should've died the second we killed his men, you can't defend what he did, no matter how nice you were to him he'll always screw you gu… moreys over. I don't get why Telltale was trying to make me think Kenny was losing it for beating Arvo up, he deserved every bit of it.
He has no reason to put your entire group at gun point and rob you if you didn't steal from him, other than to be a complete asshole. If you rob him, I can understand he'd want revenge, but if you don't rob him, he's obviously someone whom should die considering how what he did subsequently. After the fight, any logical group would've killed him, it seems Kenny (and Clem - determinant) is the only one who handles the situation correctly, the rest act like the kid did nothing wrong at all. Arvo should've died but was kept alive by the writers to shoot Clem later on, hopefully you can accept the truth.
Trust me when I say this - Arvo is more innocent than you even care to think.
The confrontation - which made everyone hate him in the first place - was not his fault
I didn't say communism was terrible! I'm basing it on other people's perceptions of communism and incorporating it into the theory! I never said it was terrible, this is what other people may think of it. Like where did I say it was communism was evil? Im implying that this may be the way the new frontier is run. Some of it also may match up with fascist ideology as well.
Also before you talk about my education from my "capitalist teachers" in my "capitalist" schools, why don't you check your spelling in that comment of yours and question your education.
I don't think he's abusive to her, I just think he's in a bad mood because of Javier living in their house.
Let's not forget the "pot washing flashback" happened BEFORE their father died. But David does mention Javier only there because of losing his job? Or betting of some sort (to me that but ain't clear?)
One thing I will say about Kate & Davids relationship is that I don't think they married for love. I think David only married Kate because he was left with 2 children by himself and thought a wife is what he needed. Kate does mention to Javier she told David at the start of the relationship she isn't mother material and again when he proposed but I think David didn't really pay attention.
David is definitely a scumbag. Mean and physically abusive. You don't get to punch your brother, you'd be arrested for assault if it was called in. And since he blew up about the glass, I figure he's abusive to others too. He runs New Frontier, a reflection of his attitude. Although, Javier and David's wife are worthless scumbags too, flirting behind their husband/brother's back. Looks like TT is going to copy the TV season one Walking Dead love triangle.
Javier only there because of losing his job? Or betting of some sort (to me that but ain't clear?)
He was in the pros in baseball, but lost his career to gambling as implied when you first meet Conrad. Javier's flashback with Kate is around the time he lost his career on the baseball team and he even mentioned "maybe they'll let me coach little league" or something along those lines.
I don't think he's abusive to her, I just think he's in a bad mood because of Javier living in their house.
Let's not forget the "pot was… morehing flashback" happened BEFORE their father died. But David does mention Javier only there because of losing his job? Or betting of some sort (to me that but ain't clear?)
One thing I will say about Kate & Davids relationship is that I don't think they married for love. I think David only married Kate because he was left with 2 children by himself and thought a wife is what he needed. Kate does mention to Javier she told David at the start of the relationship she isn't mother material and again when he proposed but I think David didn't really pay attention.
I don't think there is anything yet to indicate that he was physically abusive. Telltale could go that route, but in the first two episodes there was no 'smoking gun.' Punching his brother does not necessarily mean he also punches his wife.
That said, he's definitely someone with serious anger issues and he's verbally abusive to Kate.
Javier only there because of losing his job? Or betting of some sort (to me that but ain't clear?)
He was in the pros in baseball, b… moreut lost his career to gambling as implied when you first meet Conrad. Javier's flashback with Kate is around the time he lost his career on the baseball team and he even mentioned "maybe they'll let me coach little league" or something along those lines.
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Its actually interesting that you brought this up. I questioned what Javier exactly meant when he says this about David. It gives me a small theory about David, as he is the supposed leader of the New frontier. This may be very silly , but what if his way of thinking ties along with the ideology of communism? think about it, it seems that based on his behavior that we have seen in the flashbacks thus far, he likes to control other people. his way of getting people into his way of thinking could be expressed through how he runs his group in episode three and beyond. Now communism, as many see this ideology, is not about forcing people to change, but this is where the idea of dominance and control comes in, where Forcing is emphasized. This is where the individual's life is being controlled, with a lack of freedom as some see it. This lack of freedom for example can be seen through Max and Badger taking orders ( the "Go Ahead") on who to attack. Now this is interesting because Badger in episode 2 says "Fuck the Go Ahead" and attacks Prescott anyway, expressing a desire to break away from the ruling.
another example is, of course, the brand. the brand could be a symbol of possessiveness, a way for David to keep track of his people. We can assume that he has forced everyone to get this brand in order to stay in his camp. the last example can be seen through the act of the NF taking over Richmond. David who supposedly ordered this take over, is forcing his way into a community and is now in control.
Overall my theory is that the controlling and dominating nature of David could represent his way of thinking, which kind of matches up with the ideology of communism.
Lol I hope that this makes sense XD. This is just my thought. Hope you and everyone else likes the theory
, also it feels good to be back on here!
I don't think he was abusive to her in the traditional sense, but he does have a hair trigger temper and will take his anger out on others. I think he's just an asshole basically.
Oh lord, I'm praying you realize how hard it is for me to NOT go on a huge rant....
Must... resist... temptation....
On Arvo? :^)
Yes. Because there are LOADS and LOADS of mitigating circumstances that are in Arvo's favour.
Don't worry just head over to /r/fuckarvo where all we do is hate on Arvo.
I don't do reddit and what, do you guys say things like,
"That fucker shot Clem!"
"He deserves to die!"
"He killed Luke!"
"He lied about his sister!"
"He brought his group to confront Clementine!"
._.
Cuz I got valid arguments for all of those kinds of things.
I barely touch Reddit since its community is awful other than a few niche subreddits, and no, all we do is shitpost about Arvo. Half the threads are just "FUCK ARVO", "yeah fuck that arvo guy" "commie piece of shit", etc. Just go on it, you've got nothing to lose, it's a pretty fun subreddit once in a while when you really feel like hating on Arvo.
Lol I suppose.
However, my sudden non-hate for the kid and actual applied logic (can't think of another word) will stun them, I think
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Arvo should've died the second we killed his men, you can't defend what he did, no matter how nice you were to him he'll always screw you guys over. I don't get why Telltale was trying to make me think Kenny was losing it for beating Arvo up, he deserved every bit of it.
Trust me when I say this - Arvo is more innocent than you even care to think.
The confrontation - which made everyone hate him in the first place - was not his fault
He has no reason to put your entire group at gun point and rob you if you didn't steal from him, other than to be a complete asshole. If you rob him, I can understand he'd want revenge, but if you don't rob him, he's obviously someone whom should die considering how what he did subsequently. After the fight, any logical group would've killed him, it seems Kenny (and Clem - determinant) is the only one who handles the situation correctly, the rest act like the kid did nothing wrong at all. Arvo should've died but was kept alive by the writers to shoot Clem later on, hopefully you can accept the truth.
I didn't say communism was terrible! I'm basing it on other people's perceptions of communism and incorporating it into the theory! I never said it was terrible, this is what other people may think of it. Like where did I say it was communism was evil? Im implying that this may be the way the new frontier is run. Some of it also may match up with fascist ideology as well.
Also before you talk about my education from my "capitalist teachers" in my "capitalist" schools, why don't you check your spelling in that comment of yours and question your education.
I don't think he's abusive to her, I just think he's in a bad mood because of Javier living in their house.
Let's not forget the "pot washing flashback" happened BEFORE their father died. But David does mention Javier only there because of losing his job? Or betting of some sort (to me that but ain't clear?)
One thing I will say about Kate & Davids relationship is that I don't think they married for love. I think David only married Kate because he was left with 2 children by himself and thought a wife is what he needed. Kate does mention to Javier she told David at the start of the relationship she isn't mother material and again when he proposed but I think David didn't really pay attention.
David is definitely a scumbag. Mean and physically abusive. You don't get to punch your brother, you'd be arrested for assault if it was called in. And since he blew up about the glass, I figure he's abusive to others too. He runs New Frontier, a reflection of his attitude. Although, Javier and David's wife are worthless scumbags too, flirting behind their husband/brother's back. Looks like TT is going to copy the TV season one Walking Dead love triangle.
He was in the pros in baseball, but lost his career to gambling as implied when you first meet Conrad. Javier's flashback with Kate is around the time he lost his career on the baseball team and he even mentioned "maybe they'll let me coach little league" or something along those lines.
I don't think there is anything yet to indicate that he was physically abusive. Telltale could go that route, but in the first two episodes there was no 'smoking gun.' Punching his brother does not necessarily mean he also punches his wife.
That said, he's definitely someone with serious anger issues and he's verbally abusive to Kate.
Ah yes I remember now, thanks I knew it was something to do with betting or gambling.