What will Telltale do for episode 3 given the reaction from the community?

Given that across all communities related to ANF, this game is getting ripped apart all over, what do you think will Telltale do about it to calm the situation down for the next episode? Even the Steam reviews are almost all dislikes on the main page, so they're probably really listening in on the community and changing a lot of plot points.

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  • Oh there listening. Episode 3 will be a change and will take in fans consideration (some). I do hope it's similar to s1 in the fashion that TNF isn't the main evil/rival thing.

  • Yeah, I really hope they do make episode 3 good though, but last time I got optimistic with Telltale ANF released, so who knows at this point.

  • This.

    I don't think episode lengths are going to be massively fixed as well, which will annoy me to no end. At best, we might get back to the 1hr30min episodes. Which is better, but really isn't enough.

  • I don't think anything will happen with episode 3. It'll be too far along in development to make any drastic changes and trying to force them in half measures...well that will just annoy people more than not doing them in the first place.

    Personally if I were Telltale I would be adding back the Rewind option with the next episode, for the life of me I can't see why they thought its exclusion was a good idea.

    Sadly I feel as if everyone hoping for their improvements will end up disappointed. Telltale seem to have lost what made them Telltale and look to be chasing the mainstream audience, the CoD money to use a internet term. Which is very weird since it was their classic formula in The Walking Dead Season 1 that brought them mainstream attention in the first place.

  • Haven't Telltale already finished developing the game?

  • At best, we might get back to the 1hr30min episodes. Which is better, but really isn't enough.

    I'd be fine with it if they didn't scam us an entire episode that they split into parts 1 & 2, it was such a let down especially when with the ~1hr 10 minute episodes. Effectively, we're getting 4 episode rather than 5 because Javier's plot/story was that bad I guess, if they want to make it up, they can by making sure they're all 1 hr 30 mins or more per episode now and I'd love for them to add one more to the series so we actually get 5 episodes.

    Davissons posted: »

    This. I don't think episode lengths are going to be massively fixed as well, which will annoy me to no end. At best, we might get back to the 1hr30min episodes. Which is better, but really isn't enough.

  • No, not entirely.

    Haven't Telltale already finished developing the game?

  • It'll be too far along in development to make any drastic changes and trying to force them in half measures

    Well, Telltale is barely recording voice lines and they're consistently rewriting/adding script to episode 3, they're barely in development at all which is why it's going to about two months for episode 3 to release. I hope they do make it great, but we can only hope.

    voteDC posted: »

    I don't think anything will happen with episode 3. It'll be too far along in development to make any drastic changes and trying to force the

  • They're barely working on voice lines and they're constantly rewriting the script, it's not a finished game by any means and a lot of changes will occur (probably drastically) from what they first plotted out, it's as if they don't know where their own story is going anymore.

    Haven't Telltale already finished developing the game?

  • Releasing a story-based game without establishing the main plot.

    One of the dumbest moves I've ever seen a game company would do.

    Spodes posted: »

    They're barely working on voice lines and they're constantly rewriting the script, it's not a finished game by any means and a lot of change

  • Nothing. It may sound cynical but I don't see telltale waking up and making positive change that is needed. Telltale just like any company is taking in all the positive reviews and reactions masking them over the outraged,upset,disgruntled fans

  • I really hope they take making longer episodes into consideration. 2 hour episodes like season 1 would be ideal, but I'd settle for 90-105 minute episodes like season 2. Anything's an improvement over the barely-over-an-hour first 2 episodes.

    Also, and this is somewhat related, I hope we have more chances to get to talk to the characters in later episodes. That's really where we got to know the cast from seasons 1 and 2. With this group, we haven't gotten much of a chance to talk to anybody. It's weird how Gabe is supposed to be a main character, yet whenever we're in a hub, we either can't talk to him, or we can but it's just a quick line of dialog.

    It's hard to get attached to the characters when we have such little time with them. I want to like this group. Some people, like Tripp, I've already begun to like a bit, but at this point I don't think I'd feel anything if anyone major died (aside from Clementine, of course) in the next episode. I really hope this gets fixed over the next 3 episodes.

  • I really hope they take making longer episodes into consideration. 2 hour episodes like season 1 would be ideal, but I'd settle for 90-105 minute episodes like season 2. Anything's an improvement over the barely-over-an-hour first 2 episodes.

    I still can't believe they had the audacity to publicly tell us that the first two episodes were so long they "had" to split them up, I guarantee just making them one episode and not ripping off your buyers would help them with the negative feedback, but I guess the writers couldn't handle expanding this semi-reboot season.

    Also, and this is somewhat related, I hope we have more chances to get to talk to the characters in later episodes. That's really where we got to know the cast from seasons 1 and 2. With this group, we haven't gotten much of a chance to talk to anybody. It's weird how Gabe is supposed to be a main character, yet whenever we're in a hub, we either can't talk to him, or we can but it's just a quick line of dialog.

    Yep, if there's something severely lacking in this game it's character development, hubs allowed us to emotionally connect with characters more quicker which made season 1 shine greatly as I found Carley and Ben a hard choice even when I barely met them. Have we even had a decision to save someone over the other yet anyways? Where did that go, Telltale? I hope they include more of those later on.

    It's hard to get attached to the characters when we have such little time with them. I want to like this group. Some people, like Tripp, I've already begun to like a bit, but at this point I don't think I'd feel anything if anyone major died (aside from Clementine, of course) in the next episode. I really hope this gets fixed over the next 3 episodes.

    Mhmm, we need more character development for sure, plus this story has made me hate Gabe than like him, I don't understand why they gave us some bland, edgy, and annoying teenage kid expecting me to care about him, along with Kate making sexual advances when I don't even know her really, I care about Clementine way more than Javier's family.

    I really hope they take making longer episodes into consideration. 2 hour episodes like season 1 would be ideal, but I'd settle for 90-105 m

  • I think it'd be cool if there's competing factions in NF and you get to decide the course of that organisation.

    LordSIF posted: »

    Oh there listening. Episode 3 will be a change and will take in fans consideration (some). I do hope it's similar to s1 in the fashion that TNF isn't the main evil/rival thing.

  • I believe there will be some rivalry between Javier's side and David's side, I recall there being an episode description of Javier making "unlikely alliances", so this is a very possible theory.

    Jimayo posted: »

    I think it'd be cool if there's competing factions in NF and you get to decide the course of that organisation.

  • Even the Steam reviews are almost all dislikes on the main page

    It states on the steam page that 85% are positive about the game. You must be talking about the "most helpful reviews" section, which in some respect is questionable;

    "Do not expect anything from the previous two seasons.

    It is not the same game/story"- Lunarwave

    21 out of 35 people thought this was a helpful review...even though its not much of a review...so yeah.

    what do you think will Telltale do about it to calm the situation down for the next episode?

    Nothing. Didn't someone here post about two tweets from Telltale and the lead writer for season 3 basically saying that their sticking with their plans for the story. So they're not really going to backtrack just to please some upset fans.

  • It states on the steam page that 85% are positive about the game. You must be talking about the "most helpful reviews" section, which in some respect is questionable;

    Most people gave it a positive review at first, but then a huge uproar has occurred against the game, a lot of most recent reviews also negative. The fact that these reviews are on their main page all over is a bad situation for Telltale. Many people could be driven off by this game and it looks really bad for them, hopefully this is an incentive to clean up their act.

    "Do not expect anything from the previous two seasons.

    It is not the same game/story"- Lunarwave

    21 out of 35 people thought this was a helpful review...even though its not much of a review...so yeah.

    Yeah some people will like anything negative to the game, but in simple words, that guy did make a very valid point, this game doesn't feel like a continuation of Clementine's story which most of us care about more than Javier's story.

    Nothing. Didn't someone here post about two tweets from Telltale and the lead writer for season 3 basically saying that their sticking with their plans for the story. So they're not really going to backtrack just to please some upset fans.

    I think that was just damage control to appear confident; a masquerade, but considering all of the constant rewriting I do believe they're going to implement some suggestions here and there, if they don't, I'll probably never be optimistic about this game ever again if it's as bad as episodes 1 & 2.

  • that guy did make a very valid point,

    No he didn't.Hell he barley had a point to make. He says its not the same game...even though its using the same telltale formula since Season 1 of TWD. As far as continuation, it is, you just don't get to control Clem throughout the episodes...like in season 1 where she was a major secondary character.

    I think that was just damage control to appear confident

    It wasn't. Damage control usually doesn't include telling the fans that they are going to stick with their vision, and i doubt it was a ruse.

    Spodes posted: »

    It states on the steam page that 85% are positive about the game. You must be talking about the "most helpful reviews" section, which in som

  • No he didn't.Hell he barley had a point to make. He says its not the same game...even though its using the same telltale formula since Season 1 of TWD. As far as continuation, it is, you just don't get to control Clem throughout the episodes...like in season 1 where she was a major secondary character.

    The guy stated "it's not the same game/story", which is quite true considering the story is almost completely irrelevant from Clementine's view, almost no one cares about Javier's story, so why is Telltale trying to force us when we clearly prefer playing Clementine. Also don't even compare this game to season 1, it feels nothing alike it nor does it have the greatness to be comparable.

    It wasn't. Damage control usually doesn't include telling the fans that they are going to stick with their vision, and i doubt it was a ruse.

    Again, I still think they're trying to seem more competent than they are, plus you can't say two writers speaks for the entire company itself over one Tweet, we'll just see how this season turns out, they'd only be shooting themselves in the foot by not taking in the influx of criticism into account and applying it, I sincerely hope Telltale isn't that incompetent to pull that, we'll see if it improves next episode.

    that guy did make a very valid point, No he didn't.Hell he barley had a point to make. He says its not the same game...even though i

  • almost no one cares about Javier's story

    Mostly because people don't really give Javier a chance seeing as he is not Clem and people wanted to play as Clem, so they're going into this all sour and hate on the new guy.

    Also don't even compare this game to season 1

    Don't see why not since they share familiar gameplay, themes, and have a character that has appeared in all three seasons. whether you think one is greater than the other is irrelevant.

    Spodes posted: »

    No he didn't.Hell he barley had a point to make. He says its not the same game...even though its using the same telltale formula since Seaso

  • Mostly because people don't really give Javier a chance seeing as he is not Clem and people wanted to play as Clem, so they're going into this all sour and hate on the new guy.

    I don't hate him actually, he's interesting, but I would still much prefer to play Clementine over him, I'm merely stating what I've seen over the forums recently. This game feels more like a miniseries than a continuation of seasons 1 & 2, this story should be primarily focused on Clem, it doesn't feel like a season 3.

    Don't see why not since they share familiar gameplay, themes, and have a character that has appeared in all three seasons. whether you think one is greater than the other is irrelevant.

    Well considering they started the apocalypse, showed a scene, then skipped 5 years, this doesn't feel like season 1 almost at all, and lacks key aspects of season 1 in terms of overall themes per episode. So far this story has been convoluted and nowhere near season 1 level, if you want to take a poll on which season was the best, we can make it become "relevant". Season 1 was about Lee's redemption, having a light in this world after committing a murder, teaching this girl how to survive, and passing on his life to Clem essentially. Lee started handcuffed, dead office nearby, with a shotgun + shotgun shell, then ended handcuffed, with an officer nearby, then it seals the deal when Clem after the credits finds an empty shotgun shell, so yeah I'm not seeing too much correlation in "theme". This story is based upon Javier and his family primarily, yet most of us feel disconnected due to the lack of character development.

    almost no one cares about Javier's story Mostly because people don't really give Javier a chance seeing as he is not Clem and people

  • Ugh I cant even think about the "two part" premiere anymore.... it honestly stresses me out to think of how we were duped.

  • Get rid of Clementine, obviously.

  • Nothing because all the critics are praising the game, they couldn't give two shits about the legitimate problems people on their own forums have brought up.

  • Not much, but when ever the drop date is announced I imagine we will get a lot of lip service paid towards our complaints.

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