* giving AJ other middle names (preferably Sarah, but other nice callbacks would be Genevieve, Carver/Bill/William, Jamie, something from Re… morebecca and Alvin's baby name list, or after someone else Clem was close with before they died)
* ANYTHING in place of "..."
* flirting with same-gendered characters, even jokingly
* telling people off more (especially Jane, who we only get to really give crap to about Kenny)
* keeping up the "Clem is Carley" ruse
* proposing solutions that other characters haven't thought of
a dialogue option to tell the stranger that he indirectly caused Kenny's (presumed) death, Ben's (determinant) death, and Lee's death.
I don't think there is one
Chuck:"Uh, that way."
Always gotta have a plan, huh?
Molly:"Who's the fossil?"
Uh, rude.
Brie:"I have no sympath… morey for what happened to Crawford or any one else here. They weeded out the sick, old, and even children, just so they can save their own skins. What happened here, however Crawford fell, I consider it poetic justice."
Here here.
I just wish we had more options to defend Kenny in general, really. It seems like everybody was trying to say "he's broken" and all Clem ever really had to rebuttal was "you're wrong" which, like you said with Arvo, never had a lasting impact.
I wish I had the option to tell the group something like "Kenny's the one doing all the hard work to save our asses, and the only reason he's getting angrier is because you all keep pushing him!"
More opportunities to tell Luke/Bonnie/Mike that i agree with Kenny's treatment of Arvo. It seemed that they'd look at me weird for two seconds and then act like Kenny was on his own in his opinions.
How's about deciding if it is a good idea to teach Clementine to shoot with a gun or not? I mean by Chuck's logic babies should have machine guns.
I mean she was eight when she started (her skills haven't improved I see) I don't want her to kill someone and have to carry that blood on her hands, what about using her wits or being crafty and stealthy? No... great survival tips there.
How I wish this game implemented that Anarchist Cookbook weapons.
Are you being serious? They're in a apocalypse, knowing how a firearm functions and being accurate is one of the most important skills someone can learn, also she's extremely accurate at this point.
How's about deciding if it is a good idea to teach Clementine to shoot with a gun or not? I mean by Chuck's logic babies should have machine… more guns.
I mean she was eight when she started (her skills haven't improved I see) I don't want her to kill someone and have to carry that blood on her hands, what about using her wits or being crafty and stealthy? No... great survival tips there.
How I wish this game implemented that Anarchist Cookbook weapons.
If you watched carver get his face caved in and try to stop kenny from beating arvo he says "Lose your taste for this kind of thing?"
I always want to respond with "Carver deserved it."
They're in a apocalypse, knowing how a firearm functions and being accurate is one of the most important skills someone can learn
Yeah you're right... apocalypses are supposed to be taken seriously.
Who cares if a little girl old kills someone (a living person)... it's not like she has to carry that for the rest of her life. Guns are the only option...
That's why I suggested an Anarchist Cookbook dummy, she's a smart girl, she cant always depend on a gun.
also she's extremely accurate at this point.
When was she extremely accurate with a gun? Like sniping people's heads off with a pistol accurate?
Are you being serious? They're in a apocalypse, knowing how a firearm functions and being accurate is one of the most important skills someone can learn, also she's extremely accurate at this point.
Yeah you're right... apocalypses are supposed to be taken seriously.
Who cares if a little girl old kills someone (a living person)... it's not like she has to carry that for the rest of her life. Guns are the only option...
That's why I suggested an Anarchist Cookbook dummy, she's a smart girl, she cant always depend on a gun.
She's about 9 years old when you teach her how to use a firearm, it's general knowledge that needs to be known, especially their world. Plus in season 1 she only shoots one alive person if you tell her to kill Lee because he's turning into a walker, and I loved that ending so much, Clem is tough and smart enough to comprehend she didn't murder Lee. In season 3 I don't really care that she inadvertently killed Eli, as that guy was a piece of shit that could've got her killed in two separate occasions, but realistically that magazine should've misfired almost the entire way through, as two misfires in a row then the rest being fine it completely illogical. Oh, and I'm not saying she has to always depends on a gun, hell she's taken out tons of walkers with melee in season 2 and even 3 with her knife, but being useful with a gun is very important too as it can save your life in a world gone to shit.
When was she extremely accurate with a gun? Like sniping people's heads off with a pistol accurate?
Season 2 she could shoot them in the head very consistently, and now in season 3 she can run with a shotgun and shoot their faces off too, plus she's now really fast popping their heads with a pistol, she hasn't missed this entire season so far, and season 2 also. I'd say Clem is extremely accurate as well as pretty much every person in this series, what's your argument at this point? Clem knowing how to shoot has saved people multiple times, including herself, you can't always melee a lot of zombies in case you didn't ponder. I do believe they should refrain from shooting much in this season though, like Javier unnecessarily shooting an already very weak walker in the head, like in seasons 1 & 2 they were all really scared to bring attention, but now this whole People vs People theme roles in and they're having standoffs; firing bullets like it's the midwest in some parts of the story.
They're in a apocalypse, knowing how a firearm functions and being accurate is one of the most important skills someone can learn
Ye… moreah you're right... apocalypses are supposed to be taken seriously.
Who cares if a little girl old kills someone (a living person)... it's not like she has to carry that for the rest of her life. Guns are the only option...
That's why I suggested an Anarchist Cookbook dummy, she's a smart girl, she cant always depend on a gun.
also she's extremely accurate at this point.
When was she extremely accurate with a gun? Like sniping people's heads off with a pistol accurate?
In the opening of "Ties That Bind Part 2" with the choice to "tell him off", I would've liked it if it had gone how I expected with David complaining about Javi never being around and then when he actually is, he wants him out.
"Make up your Goddamn mind, David! Do you want me to be here, or do you want me to leave?!"
"Sarah's corpse is directly under us right now. Why does nobody seem distraught by this? Yeah, cool, there's a new baby, but a fifteen year old's corpse is currently stuck under debris below us, waiting to turn. Nobody feels some urgency to do something about it?"
I'm sure they didn't want to bring any attention to where they were while having a newborn baby, no point in wasting the bullets, she's already turned. Maybe when they were leaving they could've put her down with a melee strike so she isn't under debris and stuck there perpetually, that actually would've been a nice inclusion for season 2 now that I think of it.
"Sarah's corpse is directly under us right now. Why does nobody seem distraught by this? Yeah, cool, there's a new baby, but a fifteen year … moreold's corpse is currently stuck under debris below us, waiting to turn. Nobody feels some urgency to do something about it?"
I would have liked to have the option where if you accept Jane's nail file, you get the option to throw it into the river right in front of Jane. Just to show how much you despise her.
And then Clem says: "I don't need your goddamn versatility. Get the fuck out of here. Right. Now. I don't wanna see you. I don't wanna hear you. I don't even wanna remember you. You got my friend Sarah killed just because you wanted to screw Luke. And I'll never forgive you for that. Ever."
You know what, I think something along those broad lines would've been appropriate there. After all, Clementine is kinda down after she leaves anyway so I think it would've helped if we had the option to give Jane a piece of our mind just to show how tired Clementine is. That way, when Jane returns next episode, there would be a proper sense of weight for her coming back and promising that she's gonna change.
I would have liked to have the option where if you accept Jane's nail file, you get the option to throw it into the river right in front of … moreJane. Just to show how much you despise her.
And then Clem says: "I don't need your goddamn versatility. Get the fuck out of here. Right. Now. I don't wanna see you. I don't wanna hear you. I don't even wanna remember you. You got my friend Sarah killed just because you wanted to screw Luke. And I'll never forgive you for that. Ever."
Honestly, it's possible that Sarah was crushed when the deck collapsed, Kenny and Jane(and possibly Luke) are seen hanging around outside anyway after the transition, and they would've had to pass through there anyway on their way out, so I think its safe to assume they did something about that offscreen. Would've definitely been better if they made it clear, though.
"Sarah's corpse is directly under us right now. Why does nobody seem distraught by this? Yeah, cool, there's a new baby, but a fifteen year … moreold's corpse is currently stuck under debris below us, waiting to turn. Nobody feels some urgency to do something about it?"
Yeah, that was pretty dumb tonally.
Honestly, it's possible that Sarah was crushed when the deck collapsed, Kenny and Jane(and possibly L… moreuke) are seen hanging around outside anyway after the transition, and they would've had to pass through there anyway on their way out, so I think its safe to assume they did something about that offscreen. Would've definitely been better if they made it clear, though.
Maybe a bit cheesy, but one I thought of which I thought would've been fitting would have been during the Jane flashback
Sighs.
I thought it'd have been kind of powerful if Clementine said the following after she stumbled upon Jane posing as a rather tacky chandelier in Carver's office -
"You promised you wouldn't abandon me again."
Something like that would really drive home, at least to me, how much their friendship meant to Clementine, while also being - in my opinion - one hell of a throwback to Season Two. But then, they spelled "Jaime" wrong in the subtitles for A New Frontier, so I can't rightly say I'm surprised. Heh.
Maybe a bit cheesy, but one I thought of which I thought would've been fitting would have been during the Jane flashback
Sighs.
I thou… moreght it'd have been kind of powerful if Clementine said the following after she stumbled upon Jane posing as a rather tacky chandelier in Carver's office -
"You promised you wouldn't abandon me again."
Something like that would really drive home, at least to me, how much their friendship meant to Clementine, while also being - in my opinion - one hell of a throwback to Season Two. But then, they spelled "Jaime" wrong in the subtitles for A New Frontier, so I can't rightly say I'm surprised. Heh.
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a dialogue option to tell the stranger that he indirectly caused Kenny's (presumed) death, Ben's (determinant) death, and Lee's death.
I don't think there is one
"Kenny, your mustache is the most majestic thing I've ever seen in my life."
Yeah, all that would've been fun.
That's good point. Given his overall demeanor and he says about himself, I wonder what his reaction would've been.
Oops, replied to the wrong comment, sorry!
Well the Stranger was also pissed at Kenny, Ben was more over a Civilian in the matter
Jane: I'm so sorry Clem. We tried. It just...wasn't enough
Clementine: Fuck you. Your good time with Luke killed my best friend.
If you watched carver get his face caved in and try to stop kenny from beating arvo he says "Lose your taste for this kind of thing?"
I always want to respond with "Carver deserved it."
I would've liked an option to agree with Gabe when he said "I like being around other people."
I still wish I got an option to show Kenny Clementine's drawing from season 1. As Clem in season 2 though, not as Lee.
I actually really disapproved of what Brie said. I was just like "That's a really shitty thing to say, they were still people."
Javier: You're right. Tripp's got muscle, just in case. We'll wait and get a ride with him.
Clem: Glad you're finally listening to reason.
Javier: What? Me? Finally listening to reason? You just shot a guy!
Clem: Jesus, we are not going through this shit again...it was an accident end of story...Good night!
I think every dialogue wheel telltale ever makes for the rest of their days should include a "GLASS HIM" choice. Just because.
Yeah, that "or anyone else here" part was definitely harsh, but I get the gist of what she meant.
Unless she meant Crawford as in Oberson Crawford.
True. And he does call you out on your BS if you say you never hurt anyone and also dropped Ben in the clock tower.
Personally, I would've gone with the Season 1 shout out they poorly got across in that scene.
"Look at her! You don't GET to be sorry!"
I just wish we had more options to defend Kenny in general, really. It seems like everybody was trying to say "he's broken" and all Clem ever really had to rebuttal was "you're wrong" which, like you said with Arvo, never had a lasting impact.
I wish I had the option to tell the group something like "Kenny's the one doing all the hard work to save our asses, and the only reason he's getting angrier is because you all keep pushing him!"
Whatever Lee was going to say before his last words. "And also..." I need to know, it's been bugging me more than it should be.
How's about deciding if it is a good idea to teach Clementine to shoot with a gun or not? I mean by Chuck's logic babies should have machine guns.
I mean she was eight when she started (her skills haven't improved I see) I don't want her to kill someone and have to carry that blood on her hands, what about using her wits or being crafty and stealthy? No... great survival tips there.
How I wish this game implemented that Anarchist Cookbook weapons.
Lee to Clem in the finale,
"Love you, Sweet Pea."
Are you being serious? They're in a apocalypse, knowing how a firearm functions and being accurate is one of the most important skills someone can learn, also she's extremely accurate at this point.
I'm not sure you can exactly compare Carver with Arvo, but they were both dipshits and I'm glad Kenny beat the hell out of both.
Yeah you're right... apocalypses are supposed to be taken seriously.
Who cares if a little girl old kills someone (a living person)... it's not like she has to carry that for the rest of her life. Guns are the only option...
That's why I suggested an Anarchist Cookbook dummy, she's a smart girl, she cant always depend on a gun.
When was she extremely accurate with a gun? Like sniping people's heads off with a pistol accurate?
She's about 9 years old when you teach her how to use a firearm, it's general knowledge that needs to be known, especially their world. Plus in season 1 she only shoots one alive person if you tell her to kill Lee because he's turning into a walker, and I loved that ending so much, Clem is tough and smart enough to comprehend she didn't murder Lee. In season 3 I don't really care that she inadvertently killed Eli, as that guy was a piece of shit that could've got her killed in two separate occasions, but realistically that magazine should've misfired almost the entire way through, as two misfires in a row then the rest being fine it completely illogical. Oh, and I'm not saying she has to always depends on a gun, hell she's taken out tons of walkers with melee in season 2 and even 3 with her knife, but being useful with a gun is very important too as it can save your life in a world gone to shit.
Season 2 she could shoot them in the head very consistently, and now in season 3 she can run with a shotgun and shoot their faces off too, plus she's now really fast popping their heads with a pistol, she hasn't missed this entire season so far, and season 2 also. I'd say Clem is extremely accurate as well as pretty much every person in this series, what's your argument at this point? Clem knowing how to shoot has saved people multiple times, including herself, you can't always melee a lot of zombies in case you didn't ponder. I do believe they should refrain from shooting much in this season though, like Javier unnecessarily shooting an already very weak walker in the head, like in seasons 1 & 2 they were all really scared to bring attention, but now this whole People vs People theme roles in and they're having standoffs; firing bullets like it's the midwest in some parts of the story.
In the opening of "Ties That Bind Part 2" with the choice to "tell him off", I would've liked it if it had gone how I expected with David complaining about Javi never being around and then when he actually is, he wants him out.
"Make up your Goddamn mind, David! Do you want me to be here, or do you want me to leave?!"
"Sarah's corpse is directly under us right now. Why does nobody seem distraught by this? Yeah, cool, there's a new baby, but a fifteen year old's corpse is currently stuck under debris below us, waiting to turn. Nobody feels some urgency to do something about it?"
I'm sure they didn't want to bring any attention to where they were while having a newborn baby, no point in wasting the bullets, she's already turned. Maybe when they were leaving they could've put her down with a melee strike so she isn't under debris and stuck there perpetually, that actually would've been a nice inclusion for season 2 now that I think of it.
I would have liked to have the option where if you accept Jane's nail file, you get the option to throw it into the river right in front of Jane. Just to show how much you despise her.
And then Clem says: "I don't need your goddamn versatility. Get the fuck out of here. Right. Now. I don't wanna see you. I don't wanna hear you. I don't even wanna remember you. You got my friend Sarah killed just because you wanted to screw Luke. And I'll never forgive you for that. Ever."
And then Clem says "It's your fault..." and turns to Luke and says "...Both of you!"
You know what, I think something along those broad lines would've been appropriate there. After all, Clementine is kinda down after she leaves anyway so I think it would've helped if we had the option to give Jane a piece of our mind just to show how tired Clementine is. That way, when Jane returns next episode, there would be a proper sense of weight for her coming back and promising that she's gonna change.
Yeah, that was pretty dumb tonally.
Honestly, it's possible that Sarah was crushed when the deck collapsed, Kenny and Jane(and possibly Luke) are seen hanging around outside anyway after the transition, and they would've had to pass through there anyway on their way out, so I think its safe to assume they did something about that offscreen. Would've definitely been better if they made it clear, though.
She definitely wasn't crushed.
Because, when Sarah fell off the deck, she's at the very end of the fallen part. And when the rest of the deck gets destroyed it falls the other way.
Hindsight's 20/20. He hadn't done anything to deserve it.
Not yet.
Yep, she did. Changing into a meat eater.
Maybe a bit cheesy, but one I thought of which I thought would've been fitting would have been during the Jane flashback
Sighs.
I thought it'd have been kind of powerful if Clementine said the following after she stumbled upon Jane posing as a rather tacky chandelier in Carver's office -
"You promised you wouldn't abandon me again."
Something like that would really drive home, at least to me, how much their friendship meant to Clementine, while also being - in my opinion - one hell of a throwback to Season Two. But then, they spelled "Jaime" wrong in the subtitles for A New Frontier, so I can't rightly say I'm surprised. Heh.
I just want a
option.
Useful at all times!
That suicide scene never fails to give me chills...
Creepy and depressing.
I swear her eyebrows squared
Aww, that would've crushed me! Though I think it'd be better if it were more subtle like "You promised..."
I know right, the first time I saw it I actually felt a little sick
True. Even including from the perception of him "lying," he was really just reacting to a series of unfortunate events.