What if Christa Replaced Jane?
Instead of Jane, Christa would replace her. She would still be with Clem if that group of a holes didn't come by. Since Christa wanted to head to Wellington, there would be a good chance they'd run into Kenny since he was going to Wellington as well. My thought is that Clem and Christa would travel alone until they were captured by someone from Howes Hardware. When they were taken there they find Kenny and Alvin and all of those peoples. Then they escape and its just like the rest of the season until the end. Christa thinks Kenny puts AJ in danger so she tries to keep AJ away from Kenny. They fight and such. THE END. 
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I'd hate it. I already really dislike Christa.
Why?
I just don't think Christa would leave AJ in a frozen car to die like Jane did.
Well actually it is an interesting idea. We had a thread about this many moons ago...also thought about Lilly replacing Jane...would have made the fight more emotional...but then the Kenny fans started to get upset because if it were that fight...Kenny would come off looking like a monster no matter what. Which of course he was in S2.
I didn't necessarily mean that Christa would do that. Since Christa "miscarried" her kid, she might be overprotective and think that Kenny will hurt AJ. So, yeah.
Oh, okay. My mistake.
The idea would be interesting. Definitely a lot better than Kenny vs Jane.
I would definitely prefer having Christa over Jane, but I would think that she will have behaved very differently in many situations in Season 2 compared to Jane. Besides that one instance in the intro of Season 2, Christa comes across as more rational and humane that would have lessened the amount of needless conflicts in Season 2, and would have been a valuable asset to the group given her time with Clementine alone for almost two years.
I'd also imagine that Christa wouldn't be stupid enough to place herself between Kenny and AJ without a very good reason, thus there would be no artificial conflict between her and Kenny. Considering that Christa was a mother, I'd also imagine that Kenny wouldn't go so far as to antagonize her or even attempt to kill her over a crime he had no proof that she would have committed.
Yeah, this thought occurred to me at one point, possibly because she wore a similar color scheme to Jane(and Luke). At the very least, it would make that end decision harder because we know from experience that Christa was genuinely concerned about Clementine's well-being and what she went through while looking after her. At the same time, what she did to Michelle would set up that she's not as responsible as she once was and thus its possible she would do something similar to AJ with a bit more logic applied in response to finding Kenny genuinely dangerous.
Well first off, Christa was one of the good ones who cared about kids. Kenny would have been fine with her being around. They butted heads sometimes in season 1 but ultimately he saved her in my game and they're actually very similar.
Second of all, Christa would never have fucked around with the baby like Jane did, especially after losing her own child. She would have helped Kenny raise the child and wouldn't try to prove her point by endangering an innocent life.
Christa would have been a lot better than Jane. Jane was an unfortunate mistake that i wish we never met.
What? Why?
Well, less complete monster and more rabid dog with the parental instincts still intact.
Isn't that the plot to Mama?
...What?
Jane was overhyped and/or overly prominent minor character who was made that way, in addition to being inconsistent and unintentionally unsympathetic, in an attempt to pander to the audience members who found her hardcore survivalist vibe interesting and more or less rewrote the plot to push her as the alternative end-all be-all to Kenny over Luke(making his barely established character derailment pointless) by making her seem better than whoever else happened to be on screen even in instances where it either didn't make sense(many of her lessons with Clementine had her teach things the suddenly powered down Clementine previously did with little issue) or contradicted previous scenes with her(so she's strong enough to lift up Luke and a large chunk of rubble off Sarah with a little effort, but not strong enough to fight Kenny without either being pinned down or fighting dirty?).
I can't help but think she would've worked much better as a dark one-shot or at least a more minor major role.
Good for you
It would have been great to see Christa's reaction to seeing Kenny again, since one of his endings in No Time Left involved him saving her life.
Honestly, in that scenario, I could maybe see them hooking up. Both lost the people they love, both care for Clem, they're trying to get to the same place, and determinantly one could have already saved the other's life.
I dunno, that was just a thought I've had off an on. I doubt Christa would have ever pulled the shit that Jane did.
Would you prefer a character that you knew longer in the series than a complete rushed and awful one?
I prefer Christa honestly. That baby blizzard locked in a car manipulation's fucked up beyond human thinking.
She's still canon; what they gave us is what we got. I dont dispute that her character was rushed but I think her survivalism juxtaposed nicely with Kennys family values. She had many strengths and many weaknesses and I think Telltale did a good job of developing her and making you take sides in the 3 meager episodes that she was in.
I really like this idea. Choosing between Christa and Kenny would've been more compelling.
In that case, we could:
I think it may be mostly based on my first impression of her, as she wasn't very friendly. My main issue with her is that she gets annoyed at you for "prying into her business" but insist on knowing everything that goes on in your group. She gets annoyed at you about the radio even if you're honest about it and then when Ben is having his confession moment and Lee tries to calm him down Christa's all "I WANNA KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT!" Something that had nothing to do with her then she votes that we leave a teenager behind. The woman demands we mind our own business, insist on knowing everything that's going on, but she never tells us that she's pregnant.
My issue isn't that she doesn't tell you, my issue is the hypocrisy of it. She insists on knowing everything, but she's keeping a secret of her own. If someone from Lee'ss group was pregnant (Yes I know everyone with Lee is male except for Clementine, it's just for arguments sake) Christa would be pissy if no one told her.
And don't forget that she murdered out of revenge, without flinching and in front of the shocked Clementine who just witnessed the death of Omid.
I did disapprove of that, but characters I love such as Kenny probably would've done the same thing.
Considering that Christa was heavily pregnant at the time and had just lost her partner since the start of the apocalypse, I don't blame her for snapping and shooting the one who killed Omid over a petty robbery, even if it was an accident.
People in the apocalypse have killed others for less.
Well, probably. It's still a decent reason to hate her. Kenny is hated for this and called out for acting like that while Christa is not so much.
I think Kennyshouladiedins1 is talking about the film Mama from 2013.
It's still a major character flaw. Almost as bad as sending Clementine into that bath room alone without even checking the room beforehand only so she could have a shag with Omid.
While I agree that what Christa and Omid did beforehand was irresponsible, I've also seen the intro scene as a case of bad timing that spiraled out of control within seconds.
Christa and Omid excused themselves for a few minutes and left a child alone thinking that she would be safe on her own for a while, Clementine leaves her weapon behind for Michelle to steal and use against her, and Michelle took the opportunity to bully and steal from a defenseless without thinking that her guardians could be nearby, and clearly had no gun training since she fired a gun after hearing a door slamming behind her.
Put simply, it was everyone's fault that the intro scene carried out this way. And considering that Christa then spent eighteen months caring and preparing Clementine on her own, it appeared that Christa had learned her lesson the hard way.
Christa saw Ben leaving Clem behind and having the hatchet taken from the locked door so she did have a good reason to leave him.
Well, the fan in me says no because I prefer Jane over both of them, but really I think having Kenny and Christa fight would make even less sense than the sudden animosity between Jane and Kenny. Christa would probably be more open to travelling to Wellington even if Kenny was going with them, and having been with the guy during and partially leading up to the Savannah situation, I think they'd come to understand each other more, and a fight would be soooo less likely.
No offense though, dude. I just don't see it happening.
imo There's no good reason to leave a teenager (or anyone really) behind.
At the very least, its worth noting that Kenny killed a group member in front of their daughter(and their mutual leader) out of paranoia, while Christa shot what was a low threat enemy that killed her husband by accident. Still kinda rubbed me the wrong way, but there is a distinction.
I don't think it's unforgivable what she did. I also tried to save her from the raiders in the woods later on. It's just that Christa killing that girl seems to be forgotten quite often in comparison to other acts of needless violence in the game. And it's quite ironic that she gave Lee shit for taking Clementine to that abandoned train station but leaves her alone in that abandoned bath room.
In general it's hard for me to have an opinion about Christa and her ability of taking care of Clem. I have problems with giving Christa credit for those 16 months, because I just can't take that time skip seriously. I still think it was only implemented for making Clem older and more 'playable' not for showing how awesome Christa is as a protector. Even Clem doesn't really seem to recognize the time spent with her and thinks more about her time with Lee than with Christa which was 5 times as long. But yeah, that's just how I see it. That time skip was on of the top 5 mistakes in the series for me.
But Kenny's motivation was an understandable one, or at least he thought it justifies a murder. Christa's motivation was revenge. However, I'm not saying Kenny is a more moral person than Christa.
What did you say about my mama?
I prefer to have Jane in the narrative.
I wouldn't say that she gave Lee a hard time with his mistake in Episode 3. It was just a little reprimanding comment, and she still recognizes that Lee is a good guardian to Clementine at the end of the day. If she didn't think that Lee was good enough, she would have hung his mistakes over his dead and wouldn't let him live it down, but she never does that.
As for the timeskip controversy, I'm more irked about the lack of a good reason with why Clementine seemingly lacks a connection with Christa, rather than the fact that there is a timeskip to begin with in order to have Clementine grow older and more capable than she was in Season 1.
I felt that we're meant to believe that Christa becoming distant after Omid's death was the reason why Clementine barely seems to care that she's gone, but we barely got to see their relationship in more detail besides how Christa had spent all that time taking Clementine under her wing on her own. If anything, it makes me perceive Clementine in a rather negative light for quickly forgetting about her surrogate mother, though that's more to do with how poorly handled her character is in Season 2.
No, he really wasn't.
Rashid and Vanessa.