David: The Red Herring
I personally think David being the main antagonist is a red-herring and that Badger and co. disobeying his orders is because the New Frontier is being split between two factions (David's and someone else).
Honestly, if I wanted a love triangle (or square of Eleanor gets involved), I would just put on S1-2 of the show because this is literally another Rick/Lori/Shane deal. I don't think Telltale would be that unoriginal to do that (though it wouldn't surprise me), and considering David and Kate's marriage was already on the rocks, maybe he already moved on (got himself a girlfriend like Kenny and Sarita). Forget Tripp, I see more Kenny parallel's with David (which is probably because Kenny was originally going to be a villain with his own group in S2 instead of Carver) than anyone.
Knowing how Telltale has taken a lot of elements from S1 and S2, I have a feeling that we're going to have to fight David like Lee and Kenny did on the train in Ep.3 to get him to get his shit together. His rant in the beginning of Ties That Bind Part 1 of Javier not being there will be used against him (blaming him for the death of Mariana, possibly Kate, the people of Prescott, and not being there for his family) as the roles have reversed.
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I'm hoping that's the case. I'm sure the writers have other stuff lined up as well. I mean take Season 2 for example - it would have been lame and predictable if Carver was the main bad guy from start to finish for me. I'm glad they changed it up a bit and made it Kenny vs rest of the group.
Actually the true TNF is lead by Lilly. She's back and meaner, badder, and madder as ever. She out for blood and no man will stand in her way!
"Yeah, he did. But look where he landed."
If that means Gabe's death then I'm all for it.
Here's the true mastermind
I remember when I believed cough "someone" cough was a red herring in Life is Strange. Needless to say it was all obvious.
So my expectations are as low as my energy.
No Nate is the leader they just haven't revealed it yet.
Fucking dammit, I wish.
As much as I'd love to see Nate again I don't see him being the leader of a community.
Red herring or not, I am very excited for David to be in the story. As an ally or an enemy I know he'll make the story that much more awesome.
Not right now, because they have actually been beamed aboard an alien space craft and are in cryogenic storage for a later date. So Lilly is free to run amuck and have some fun.
I would like that. I don't think we need another megalomaniac narcissistic evil community leader in TWD. That's pretty much all the major villains.
Yeah. Shit will go down when David learns about his daughter's death.
It's awfully sad how he was just a couple of days away from reuniting with almost his entire family, and then his thugs happened.
I wish, that would be a real twist
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It is. Especially if you consider the amount of time they've been separated. David likely has assumed that his family is dead and mourned for them. Now most of them turn out to be alive, but his daughter was alive just a couple days ago and was murdered. I imagine he'll end up going through the grief all over again.
To be honest, I thought Norma from the miniseries was a step in the right direction. She didn't really feel like the run-of-the-mill evil leader to me. She felt like she was just an ordinary survivor doing her best to keep her people safe, only ending up in a conflict with us due to shitty circumstances. She never explicitly felt like a villain to me in the way the Governor, Negan or Carver did. I mean, the only real villainous stuff she did was at the very end, and given what happened to her brother, her losing her shit is understandable.
Norma was a step in the right direction, but horribly matched with Randall ( who was the same as the Governor, Negan, Carver, ect ). Norma, honestly, wasn't even a villain at the end considering what happened to her brother and community, anymore than we view Rick Grimes as a villain. I think it would have been much more interesting to have Norma developed or a future antagonist developed more in that respect. A villain can be so much better than some one-dimensional puppy drowning maniac. A great villain is a hero of the other side.
I agree about Norma. I feel like the conflict in the Michonne miniseries could have been avoided, because the people involved were mostly okay-ish people (aside from Randall).
I understand that, in a setting like TWD, the evil community leader with delusions of grandeur is the most likely sort of villain to appear. People are scared, they feel safer with a strong leadership, and people with that kind of personality really thrive in situations like that. It makes sense, I know it makes sense, it just feels a little tiring after a while, especially with such a long-running franchise.
I kind of feel like that was the point.
They were like a post-apocalyptic yin and yang-- Norma, the reasonable and rational survivor and antagonist.. and Randall, the brutish, sadistic villain. In some way, he's the perfect antagonistic foil to his sister. Where Norma was just, reasonable, or understanding, Randall was practically the exact opposite; unfair, unreasonable, uncaring. In a way, Randall represented the darkest parts of Norma. All the dark shit she isn't willing to do herself, Randall was there to do in her place.
Or maybe I'm just giving Norma and Randall too much credit... although that shouldn't really come as a surprise, given my profile picture and all.
I could see him being like a second-in-command type guy like Troy. He wouldn't neccesarily be as evil as Troy but he has other motivations and could become a friend or foe depending on how you treat him and things like that.
Or David will get over it pretty easy or just use it as an excuse to blame Javi, for the sake of the story.
It would be something fresh to see a person who doesn't give two shits about his family and fully enjoys lawless life without any ties or bonds, living easy and free as a member of do-whatever-the-fuck-ya-want community.
To be fair, Troy was more of a very base dick than outright evil.
You know, seeing you say that kinda makes me consider bringing back my character comparison thread, assuming it isn't past date.
And maybe Gabby.
Especially if they lack any supposed complexity and are just the one-note bare bones(looking straight at Carver).
You know, you actually have a point there. So far, the only villain I immediately recall who explicitly didn't too much of a shit about family is Jane--and that was unintentional!
I'm trying to decide if that was a clever joke or a pointless character.
I agree that Norma made for a compelling antagonist, as I found myself sympathizing and siding with her more than I did with Sam and Michonne.
She's what Carver really should have been portrayed as in Season 2, as it would have explored the mystery behind George's death, why the Cabin Group felt that they had to escape from his community in the manner that they did, and the interactions between Carver and Clementine would have more weight and subtlety.
One of the perks of missing a lot on my original Life is Strange playthrough (and probably the only perk because I realized that I missed out on a bunch of world-building and character development) was that that twist was actually pretty damn surprising. My jaw dropped.
You innocent soul ;--;
Wish telltale were that opportunistic but I doubt any speciality on their episodes now