Do you blame Jane for Her Decision in Season 3? SPOILERS
Opinions on Jane committing suicide, being pregnant with Luke's child, etc?
I'm personally shocked that they went this route for her characters because she's always been a self-sufficient survivor. It doesn't seem in character for her to kill herself and just give up.
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Eh...yes, I guess? I mean, it was definitely her choice, for better or worse.
Personally, speaking as someone who didn't trust her during In Harm's Way, was bitterly so after Amid the Ruins, and grew to legitimately hate her in No Going Back, I'd say her entire flashback was the easily worst.
Even the strongest of people can break, the baby might have been the final straw in her mind. So no, I don't really blame Jane.
The problem for me with her choice is that we never really got to know her beyond "she's a badass with attachment issues", so her death doesn't really hit me as it is meant to.
I can't blame her when it's the writers who didn't want to write her in any other parts in ANF. I realize that all characters/plot is at the mercy of the writers, but it's just so much more apparent when it came to these flashbacks. Like they were following a formula to include the S2 ending choice briefly and then get rid of it so they could tell their story without having to write anything extra. I understand why they have to do it, time/effort costs money, but it was just an easy way to write off a character that I believe would've never done such a thing, let alone, get pregnant in the first place. I guess I could say it broke my immersion a bit. For that I cannot truely blame Jane.
Yeah I do. She didn't need to make Luke an offer and accidentally get pregnant in the first place. She didn't need to instigate a deadly fight with Clem and AJ's one true guardian if she wasn't prepared to take care of them no matter what. And she didn't need to kill herself in secret just for Clem to find her body later. Totally irresponsible and selfish.
It's no secret around here, that I hated Jane as a character. Many felt the sameway about Kenny. The thing is this ending fits. But was handled very poorly. See LIS for how to pull off a Suicide story well. We really aren't given time to flesh out her state of mind here. The whole thing come off as killing a PR problem and doesn't carry the correct tone at all. Kennys death is just as poorly handled. But does fit with the character as he would die to save AJ. Jane's death was a travisty. So was Kenny's. Lets hope they put well more thought into the next death that matters.
So true. So VERY true. Her "death" is completely out of character for her.
And to be honest, I'm still in denial. I defended the character of Jane tooth and nail, and with what happened to her in the flashback, I take as a slap in the face and a personal insult.
I just don't know why I can't move on, I liked her (as mentioned in previous posts). I guess in-between the years of Season 2 and Season 3, I stayed strong in my beliefs. Her haters urged me not to cave in and agree. I viewed Jane as a decent character and capable survivor. And I felt she and Clementine made a fine team, to progress into future seasons.
I can't believe Telltale did that. And unless a suitable rectification is presented, I don't....I don't know what to do for peace of mind.
I dont blame people for commiting suicide, its a mental breakdown and outside of their control.
I do blame the writers for writing stupid scripts tho.
No, I don't. if we were in a zombie apocalypse, many of us would have killed ourselves much earlier than Jane did.
Can't really feel anything about a scene like that when the whole thing screams "We gotta get rid of determinant characters otherwise we might have to be creative!"
Yes, I do. She made Luke an offer which was so unnecesary. She caused her own death.
I blame luke. And telltale. Jane committing suicide was completely ooc. It's a lazy decision for telltale to make some but not all of your choices from Season 1 not carry on to season 2 and choices from season 2 not carry on to season 3 irrelevant.
But to change jane's established characteristics, traits and personality from season 2 and overhaul it to a personality that didn't even have time to develope and be established which makes said personality ooc. Is bad writing. And shows disrespect to jane and disregards their well written efforts they put into developing jane's personality.
No because it was really out of character, I blame the writers for being lazy.
Yeah it doesn't seem in her character to kill herself like that. But I think I know the reason why she did it. She saw Rebecca when she died after giving birth right? I think she killed herself because she thought that she was going to die giving birth to Luke's child like how Rebecca died giving birth to A.J. Rebecca lost too much blood and Jane thought that she would probably do the same (at least that's how I think Rebecca died). I guess she thought killing herself was a better option than going through the pain of having a baby. But it still isn't right to leave Clementine and little old A.J. all alone like that.
"All I can do is... promise I won't abandon you again."
Yeah, the best option for her to die is to kill herself after a few weeks. /s
Basically, Telltale says you're right if you chose being alone, Wellington or Kenny and you're wrong, because you believed Jane (TellTale: hahahaha, you goofball! You really thought that Jane will make any effort? Not like she got any experience with Jamie. She will just go kill herself while you will check perimetre with a baby alongside you. If something will happen to them no one will be able to help them! Sounds completely reasonable right?)
Same. They probably would have to work hard if they wanted something creative for the fanbase.
In "Amid The Ruins" she actually says on the way to the trailer park "I'd never bring a kid into this world." Its hidden, but she actually does say it and it shocked me, because telltale actually did plan Jane's fate :P
On that note, I actually think it would've been more fitting if she had Kenny's flashback instead, which is what my first thought was after I finally stopped laughing at how shitty his model looked.
I stilll think it was Troys rather than luke...
I blame the writers
Well, whether it was her character or not, people are bashing her for it.
I don't exactly BLAME her. That's just an odd way to put it. Although she is responsible for her actions prior to her being pregnant, I don't.... I don't know how to put it XD
It was foolish for her to have sex with Lucas in the first place, and it was poorly thought out for her to commit suicide. But, it made sense.
I'm not about to go into detail about it cuz I've argued with enough idiots (NOT CALLING OP AN IDIOT) about this topic on the forums.
I doubt it.
If the baby was Troy's, I'm definitely certain that Jane would've used a pregnancy test or SOMETHING if he did do anything to her.
Wait.....
OMG THIS WOULD EXPLAIN HER SUICIDE!
IF Troy did do something to Jane, and she was pregnant and she knew she was pregnant, I'm certain she wouldn't have used a pregnancy test after having sex with Lucas! There could be a sliver of a chance that Jane would've been forced to have an 'abortion' of sorts, y'know, considering how Carver was and all. OR she could've had a miscarriage. She might of had some SERIOUS PTSD from the experience, and she didn't want to lose another kid again.
OMG THIS WOULD EXPLAIN IT!!!
I was under the impression that Jane wasn't at Howe's for very long given Reggie and Mike's comments on her, so she could've been pregnant during the entirety of her screentime.
I doubt it. If she wasn't there for very long, then I doubt (saying doubt a lot, aren't I?) Troy did anything to her.
Their conversation and respective characterizations seemed to suggest that Jane noticed Troy had a thing for her and seduced him into doing favors for her with the intention of eventually escaping on his watch.
Also, Owen Thomas confirmed that among the many early recordings he did that got chucked included a scene that had Troy harassing her, as he was originally supposed to be a far more threatening character; her castrating him is apparently a leftover trace of that.
Considering I don't remember any female character to survive the pregnancy during the apocalypse(TWD), nah I don't blame her. She probably knew she was going to die sooner or later because of it.
I blame the writers more than I do her.
There's not even a character named Lucas. Just stop xD
He's channeling Carver's minor verbal tic regarding names, hence referring to Luke as Lucas even though he's never called that in the game proper .
Maggie survived for example
I blame her cause she's the only one to blame XD
But as far as if I'm upset with her, I can totally understand. She was already unstable when it came to her mental health in episode 4 and 5 of season 2, so when I discovered she killed herself, I was surprised yet I kind of knew it was coming. Her leaving her sister behind completely ate away at her mind, as much as she said that she moved past it. No one can move past intentionally leaving their own sister. Finding the pregnancy test was kinda the last straw for her. She saw what happened to Rebecca, and she must have thought undoubtedly that that would haopen to her.
So no, I don't really blame her. I feel sorry for her more than anything. It takes a lot of strength to go through with something like that, and it's just another horrible occurance in a horrible situation.
Yeah, admittedly I had already realized she was insane to begin with before the game even had a release date. I just hate the cliche they went with and how they revealed it, not to mention the situation in general.
Oh, she did? I stopped watching the TV series after de first 2 episodes this season, my bad. Well, I don't know if Jane had everything she needed to give birth and maybe she didn't have any idea how to do it.
My points being its Troy:
*She shot his penis
*She mentions previous convos with him
*She mentions "them leaving together"
Perhaps:
She banged luke in order to never know whos baby it was rather than knowing for certain than itss troys as he perhaps sexually assaulted her or something
but then she realises that she cant live with that and a baby would break her and clem down
Comic version of her did and TV series will probably as well, because of that "you gotta learn to be a leader" from Rick.
Insane? She just wants Clem all to herself. How's that insane.
Damn, your sarcasm is so hard to read, you made that last sentence a statement.
The idea of making her get pregnant... pretty unlikely, only way should be precum, anything else would be even dumber.
But OK, so she did get pregnant, whatever...
It happened, cause TTG wanted her to be gone. You can also tell by her poorly designed model. Not sure, why they didn't decide to leave her faith open and her and Clem just part ways. Same goes for Kenny, poorly written ending for him as well.
But assuming, she got pregnant, I'd say, as mentally unstable as she was (not knowing whether to leave the group before, etc., getting Kenny killed was just the icing on the cake and so unnecessary), it's likely she'd kill herself. But she would've probably shot herself in the head, not like this, having her end up as a walker being found by Clem and AJ.
Kenny&Jane flashbacks were just poorly written and rushed, and we all know.
I wish they'd patch them and fix the models and have an open ending for both. Maybe something dramatic, them parting ways somehow.. But uh, I guess they just didn't want neither char to be in the game any longer..
I can't even tell if I'm being sarcastic.
But for real though, that's just the tip of that iceberg.