Top 5 most pointless deaths

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  • Her death wasn't pointless.
    It was needed to make Javi hate the new frontier

    Just one: Mariana in A New Frontier

  • Plan_RPlan_R Banned
    edited March 2017

    Well sure we all cheered, danced and smacked some booties. But it still didn't serve any story purpose what so ever, beyond "much rejoicing".

    How was Sarah's death pointless? It was the best part of the game! as Sarah dies Sarah: AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Me: YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHH BAYBAAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!!

  • She didn't really need to die to do that, though.

    Her death wasn't pointless. It was needed to make Javi hate the new frontier

  • If the best part of the game is a traumatized sheltered girl being brutally killed by walkers regardless of choice while the sociopath responsible gets little to no consequence from it, clearly there's a problem with both you and the game.

    How was Sarah's death pointless? It was the best part of the game! as Sarah dies Sarah: AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Me: YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHH BAYBAAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!!

  • It's called a joke.

    DabigRG posted: »

    If the best part of the game is a traumatized sheltered girl being brutally killed by walkers regardless of choice while the sociopath responsible gets little to no consequence from it, clearly there's a problem with both you and the game.

  • Thank god. I was about to make a big post. Sarcasm >>>>>>> Serious.

    It's called a joke.

  • 5) Shawn Greene

    He had to die anyways because he was a character from the comics, the game of The Walking Dead and the comics are connected.

    4) Katjaa

    It wasn't pointless at all, TellTale made her suicide so it could have a higher emotional impact on us which succeeded. (Something ANF didn't handle well. cough)

    3) Matthew

    Sure, he could be an idiot or maybe he just didn't hear. Either way it was a bad-written death. But it was impactful after we learned about him and Walter, you gotta admit it.

    rabbitrun posted: »

    5) Shawn Greene So, he let Duck sit on the tractor, ok, but you gotta assume, he can start it by accident, so they should've took some pr

  • Yea, the deaths did have "a meaning" but the way they died was a bit pointless to me.. The writing was actually fine sorta, but those were deaths that could've/should've been avoided imo.

    For example, compared to other deaths mentioned in this thread, like Carlos or Sarah, I can accept those more, cause Carlos' death was, well, bad luck, he got hit by a bullet while running, could've hit anyone... No way to avoid that, they knew the risk of running away and Sarah, too, got buried by bad luck of falling pieces on her.

    And that's btw not comparable to ANF Kenny, not bad luck, he didn't put a seatbelt on and Clem was racing and he was doing some other sh#t. That's human failure (and bad writing).

    5) Shawn Greene He had to die anyways because he was a character from the comics, the game of The Walking Dead and the comics are co

  • But, in this case, WE are Javier, which means that her death should give US a reason to hate The New Frontier, but without any real character development and attachment, Marianas death becomes kinda meaningless.

    I think they could have easily gone 2 episodes without killing anyone off, or only have Conrad be (determinantly) killed, I think its a waste of time to kill off characters so fast, and frankly, I barely care about any characters other than Clem so far, since there has been so much action and so short episodes, that we barely know or care about any of the characters.

    Its also signs of a strong character writing if you can make the player hate someone without resorting to killing someone, for example, the flashback with Ava and Clem made me way more wary of The New Frontier than them killing Mariana, in this world, people killing people on sight arent the dangerous one, theyre predictable, the dangerous ones are the ones that are nice, the ones you cant predict, the once you want to put your trust in, but cant due to the state of the world

    Her death wasn't pointless. It was needed to make Javi hate the new frontier

  • Bonnie.

    There was still a lot that could be done with her character, but her optional death in No Going Back is almost guaranteed to doom her to the never seen again file with the rest of the 400 Days cast.

  • Mike was also supposed to be determinate, but that got patched out of the PS3 version a day or two after release. They really were careless about the amount of deaths in that half of the Season.

    Joe_Momma posted: »

    Bonnie. There was still a lot that could be done with her character, but her optional death in No Going Back is almost guaranteed to doom her to the never seen again file with the rest of the 400 Days cast.

  • Ben's had a point. It was either to test your willingness to forgive and Kenny dude-bro status (Around Every Corner) or to complete Kenny's character arc and allow him to get a noble "death ", forgive Ben and try to save him (No Time Left).

    Lahkesis posted: »

    * Sarah * Ben * Nick * Kenny/Jane in ANF * Pete

  • I loved whole 400 days, awesome stories, that I'd love to continue.

    Joe_Momma posted: »

    Bonnie. There was still a lot that could be done with her character, but her optional death in No Going Back is almost guaranteed to doom her to the never seen again file with the rest of the 400 Days cast.

    • Pete and Carlos: Their deaths' purpose was to become Nick and Sarah in stronger survivors. But since they both died so early (the first time I played, they died the same episode), their deaths become pointless.
    • Nick and Sara: Nobody seemed to care about Nick's death. If he dies in episode 4 Luke and Rebecca say something, but if you cant save him in episode 2 (like I did) nobody say nothing related to him. Its like they didnt care about the guy that survived 2 years alongside them. Sarah, well...AJ was born, so who cares about her, right?
    • Sarita: Her death's purpose was to leave Kenny alone so he could start to lose his mind....again.
    • Bonnie: Since nothing but a single line of dialogue changes, and everything turns out to be the same, this is one of the most pointless death in the game.
    • ANF Kenny, Jane and Edith: If only Clem's personality could be different, their deaths could have a point (I'm not asking for episode 3 spoilers, so dont reply me anything regarding Above The Law)
  • if you dont save him in episode 2 (like I did) nobody say nothing related to him

    Reggie asks about him when he's reunited with the Cabin Group, but that's it.

    * Pete and Carlos: Their deaths' purpose was to become Nick and Sarah in stronger survivors. But since they both died so early (the first ti

  • Amazing how Reggie cares about Nick more than his best friend.

    DabigRG posted: »

    if you dont save him in episode 2 (like I did) nobody say nothing related to him Reggie asks about him when he's reunited with the Cabin Group, but that's it.

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    It's not about Kenny, it's about Ben's wasted potential. I see his death as pointless because he suffers a horrible fate either way and gets no chance to redeem himself like he wanted to. Saving the poor kid barely accomplishes anything for his character, just like with Sarah.

    Joe_Momma posted: »

    Ben's had a point. It was either to test your willingness to forgive and Kenny dude-bro status (Around Every Corner) or to complete Kenny's character arc and allow him to get a noble "death ", forgive Ben and try to save him (No Time Left).

  • Yeah, that was a pretty dumb oversight, especially since Luke says he searched the lodge before he left for anything useful and therefore, should've seen what happened to Nick at one point. You can't even bring it up, as far as I know, and the only mention Nick gets is a unused line from Rebecca and as one of the people Luke has lost in the final episode.

    Amazing how Reggie cares about Nick more than his best friend.

  • I actually made a video on this exact topic. :P

  • I feel that Luke is honestly not cruel enough to use a tactic like that. He didn't even want to harm Carver nevermind leaving an innocent baby in a random car where he could be in any kind of danger!

    I think that fallandir is right that it would be more of a dispute, compared to a proper brawl.

    I also don't consider Jane to be smarter than everyone else in a sense, just much more selfish. She only ever really shows her caring side to Clem because she sees that Clem is as "capable" as she is, I'd suppose. She doesn't even really seem to show to care too much about Luke, romantically I mean, there is a hint but not that much to me at least. I would argue that she is more likely to carry out the plan she did as well because as we seen she feels that she needs Clem because she sees her as a representation of her sister, in a way.

    Jane was desperate and ruthless in those moments, at least that is how I saw it. Honestly, I am probably just an idiot and you could be completely right. I just wanted to give my view.

    DabigRG posted: »

    For some reason, I feel like some of those lines could've been switched, but whatever. Anyway, it'd be the exact situation we got in the

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    It's called a joke.

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    It's called a joke.

  • Uh, I think this guy got this list almost completely backwards.

    BroKenny posted: »

    I actually made a video on this exact topic. :P

  • edited March 2017

    Sarita, it was lazy and gave Kenny similiar development he got in the first season. Also the fact that Sarita overall got barely any development of her own. I feel like his serious injury would have been enough for him to be angry about, and Sarita could have lived.

    Nick, he had a big role in the first two episodes, and then after he became determinant, telltale forgot about him, and then gave him a cheap death. I still don't understand how he died exactly. I don't think that shot would have been enough to kill him.

    Jane and Kenny's in ANF, they had two years to figure out what to do with these two and yet we got more laziness. Like many others I excepted them to die, but I never thought they would both look horrible and their deaths would be so incredibly stupid.

    Rebecca, it would be nice to see a mother and child both survive in zombie related stories more often, telltale had the chance to do this, but nope. The choice to wait or leave that night made no difference, she still gets incredibly ill, dies, and turns. Also how did she get so sick so fast without more people noticing before hand???? Sure Bonnie was helping her along, but you think more of the others would have been concerned about her condition???

  • Just because you're a Sarah fanboy doesn't mean you have to criticize my list. There is no front or backwards, right or wrong, it's my opinion.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Uh, I think this guy got this list almost completely backwards.

  • I still don't understand how he died exactly. I don't think that shot would have been enough to kill him.

    He was in the trailer with Luke and Sarah, apparently realized they were all gonna need to get help, and rushed out the door to find some despite knowing he was the worse hurt. He ended up running into the first walker that Jane has Clementine kill, got bitten in the neck by it, and managed to get away from it, but collapsed on his way out of the gate hole due to blood loss.

    Also how did she get so sick so fast without more people noticing before hand???? Sure Bonnie was helping her along, but you think more of the others would have been concerned about her condition???

    It's somewhat implied that she nearly had a miscarriage likely due to going into labor and having to run to the deck with the herd on their heels, though it's possible there were complications beforehand due to her complaining about being in pain to Clementine and Kenny around the statue. She was probably
    bleeding internally given how pale she began to look and that only made it harder on her to trek through the cold winds holding her baby, something Luke pointed out a few times.

    Sarita, it was lazy and gave Kenny similiar development he got in the first season. Also the fact that Sarita overall got barely any develop

  • Oh, you made this video! Well, shit, so much for anonymous comments!

    BroKenny posted: »

    Just because you're a Sarah fanboy doesn't mean you have to criticize my list. There is no front or backwards, right or wrong, it's my opinion.

  • I actually made a video on this exact topic. :P

    DabigRG posted: »

    Oh, you made this video! Well, shit, so much for anonymous comments!

  • People actually like Sarah? lol

    BroKenny posted: »

    Just because you're a Sarah fanboy doesn't mean you have to criticize my list. There is no front or backwards, right or wrong, it's my opinion.

  • Of course they do/did. She's easily one of the nicest and more unique characters of Season 2, her passive and sheltered disposition made her easy to feel for in the dark environment, she actually had one of the few consistent arcs for most of the Season, initially brought a bit of friendly relief from the somewhat cold reception Clementine was getting from the other characters, and she encouraged the display of Clementine's positive traits.

    People actually like Sarah? lol

  • Do you really think everyone has the same opinion?

    People hate Star Wars Prequels and I actually like them.

    People love The Dark Knight and I don't.

    People think Resident Evil 4 is the best of the franchise and I don't think it is.

    ;)

    People actually like Sarah? lol

  • The only thing he did that seemed redeemable was if you only brought Ben with Lee and Ben attempts to cut off his arm as Lee was unconscious. Everything after that went downhill but at least he was willing to before he woke up

    Lahkesis posted: »

    It's not about Kenny, it's about Ben's wasted potential. I see his death as pointless because he suffers a horrible fate either way and gets

  • edited March 2017

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    5) Chuck - I feel he was cut too short. He had potential and promise. I felt he should've made it to the Crawford infiltration or to the end of the game and he and Clementine would go their separate ways.

    4) Marianna - I'm not really a fan of A New Frontier, but I will admit that Marianna's surprise death was a poor choice just for shock value. And at 10 years old? Really?! I know Walking Dead world and everything, but still. She could've come under Clementine's wing and become a capable survivor.

    3) Nick - Felt the guy could develop for the duration of Season 2; with what happened it feels the promise you made to Pete hit your morality more. Some characters should be given time to develop into better ones and contribute more to the story.

    2) Sarah - This is another one that bugged me for the second season, (for the record I lament Sarita and Rebecca as well, for same reasons mentioned above), I hoped Clementine would get Sarah back on her feet and the others could chip in and restore her. But alias, one can dream.

    And the biggest one for me, if it wasn't obvious (I'm looking at you writers of A New Frontier): enter image description here

    1) Jane

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    I believe my emotions inside me went through are represented in these gifs.

    Telltale, HOW DARE THEY? Forgive me for sounding like a broken record, but ever since I chose to save Jane and come to like her, I defend her tooth and nail against the haters and naysayers. And the fate they had given her I took as a personal insult and a slap in the face.

    With the multiple endings, I actually believed Telltale would really put the effort. Plus, Jane's whole fate is a copout, a CHEAP copout.

    I still cling to the possibility of her fate just being a fever dream of sort, but I'm just grasping at straws.

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    I've never seen so many gifs in one post xD Solid list there, too. I agree with pretty much everything.

    MaconMajr posted: »

    With pleasure 5) Chuck - I feel he was cut too short. He had potential and promise. I felt he should've made it to the Crawford infiltrat

  • Thanks. Lots of pent up frustration inside of me. Felt I needed as many gifs as possible to showcase my feelings.

    I've never seen so many gifs in one post xD Solid list there, too. I agree with pretty much everything.

  • To be honest I probably wouldn't have been that emotionally invested into the games as I am if they hadn't killed Lee so early. What would I say now that hasn't been said already about Lee's death? It really changed my perception of the world in the games after Season 1, the Season 2 soundtrack really (to me) gives a impression of a more bleaker, harsh and darker world without Lee. I think writers in general have to use this tactic once developing a great arc for a character within a long series..

  • Right, but that's so minor it hardly matters tbh.

    Sparkeagle posted: »

    The only thing he did that seemed redeemable was if you only brought Ben with Lee and Ben attempts to cut off his arm as Lee was unconscious. Everything after that went downhill but at least he was willing to before he woke up

  • At least Ben got some decent gameplay variations, decided to stand up for himself when he had enough, and got to participate in an action scene. Sarah was actively prevented from doing any of that for some reason. :unamused:

    Lahkesis posted: »

    It's not about Kenny, it's about Ben's wasted potential. I see his death as pointless because he suffers a horrible fate either way and gets

    1. Lee, did you have to kill off the main character?
    2. Kenny, even if you did hate him, he is still one of the fan favorites and was one of the first few survivors we met
    3. Luke, Literally killed him off because they didn't feel like keeping him or sending him with Arvo
    4. Mariana, She was one of the favorites, not even being alive for an entire episode
    5. Jane, Started a fight with Kenny and got herself killed Claps
    6. Carley and Doug, Both great characters, really sad both of them had to die
    7. Sarah, Clem could teach her how to shoot and survive, then she just falls and dies!
    8. Ben, Seeing him with Clementine in season 2, with her bossing him around, would've been cool
    9. Nick, I actually kinda hated Nick but to see him die the way he did in episode 4 was disapointing
    10. Rebecca, bleeding to death is an excuse, how did she bleed to death like 4 days after the pregnancy?
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    Sarah, Clem could teach her how to shoot and survive, then she just falls and dies!

    * Pfft * -- boy, I wish that's what happened in the game proper. :joy:

      'The group was taken aback as the deck creaked and the weight of the canon caused a chainlink to give way.
      The group made a collective dash for safety, barely getting out of the way when the floor formerly below them began to give way...as Sarah just fell on her knees and died. Her maidenly body, bronze and lithe, appeared to float down before the group's eyes as the rubble began to accumulate under, around, and finally above her.
      When the dust had settled and the group finally broke out of their shock to help their similarly hanging ally, a glance over her shoulder revealed a bone-chilling image: a headstone engraved with the words "Here lies Sarah--Sometimes, you just gotta know when to bail."'
    

    Academy Award winning writing right there!

    * Lee, did you have to kill off the main character? * Kenny, even if you did hate him, he is still one of the fan favorites and was one of

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