To be honest, I think the game was punishing you for killing Conrad.
Less screen time for Clem, no development for the man himself.
Now, I'm pretty sure that 98.65% of all players couldn't give a damn about Conrad's character development (Excluding me, teehee!), but I'm pretty sure that almost everyone loves extra screen time for Clem, so uh... There.
Someone proposed (a few pages back) that Conrad should have multiple deaths, until he finally meets his end. That would be quite unique.
If only S2 determinant characters had the same development (like you mentioned)... Oh, what could have been.
Finished watching the videos posted here.
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They put more effort developing (determinant) Conrad that's not so with an in… moreteresting plot/purpose than the actual determinant S2 characters that the majority of players liked.
whatta slap in the face this turned out to be
To be honest, I think the game was punishing you for killing Conrad.
Less screen time for Clem, no development for the man himself.
Now… more, I'm pretty sure that 98.65% of all players couldn't give a damn about Conrad's character development (Excluding me, teehee!), but I'm pretty sure that almost everyone loves extra screen time for Clem, so uh... There.
Someone proposed (a few pages back) that Conrad should have multiple deaths, until he finally meets his end. That would be quite unique.
If only S2 determinant characters had the same development (like you mentioned)... Oh, what could have been.
The fact that 90% of all players killed Conrad without too much hesitation really shows how attached a lot of people are [to Clementine], regardless of her change in character.
I'm pretty sure that almost everyone loves extra screen time for Clem, so uh... There.
Why would I want more screen time of an alrea… moredy ruined/edgy character that's not going anywhere, if this season isn't treated as S3 of the main game?
I just... can't watch her anymore...
Well, this is after the backlash Season 2 got, so it shouldn't be that much of a surprise. Which I'm personally greatful for, since it leads to some interesting story and gameplay variation.
I just wish this was an improvement they didn't have to make in the first place.
Finished watching the videos posted here.
Wew Amazing...
They put more effort developing (determinant) Conrad that's not so with an in… moreteresting plot/purpose than the actual determinant S2 characters that the majority of players liked.
whatta slap in the face this turned out to be
I have to say I'm impressed with how Telltale handled Conrad's character in episode 3. Hell he even did better then Nick's determinant character from Season 2. Conrad just became one of my favorite characters. And it's cool how he can die in Episode 3 or make it alive to Episode 4. I also liked that he apologized for what he did, which also adds a bit of character development. But what's better is that they give you the option to let Conrad kill Badger which is good because he gets to deliver justice for Francine, shoot him in the head instead of having Javier bash out his brains, and to prevent him from turning. I hope we get to see more of Conrad in the future and after seeing his character, I hope he survives. But of course this is TWD so anything can still happen to him (really hoping it doesn't though). One more thing to mention. That quote Conrad said to Badger just before he shot him in the head, "your not a man, your nothing". Badass. Definitely worth remembering in my book.
Yeah, he's tied with Gabe for me in 3rd/4th place. I just wish it was part of a continuing trend rather than a serious problem that needed to be fixed in the first place.
I have to say I'm impressed with how Telltale handled Conrad's character in episode 3. Hell he even did better then Nick's determinant chara… morecter from Season 2. Conrad just became one of my favorite characters. And it's cool how he can die in Episode 3 or make it alive to Episode 4. I also liked that he apologized for what he did, which also adds a bit of character development. But what's better is that they give you the option to let Conrad kill Badger which is good because he gets to deliver justice for Francine, shoot him in the head instead of having Javier bash out his brains, and to prevent him from turning. I hope we get to see more of Conrad in the future and after seeing his character, I hope he survives. But of course this is TWD so anything can still happen to him (really hoping it doesn't though). One more thing to mention. That quote Conrad said to Badger just before he shot him in the head, "your not a man, your nothing". Badass. Definitely worth remembering in my book.
Jesus, I need so badly for Javi to say "I love you" to Kate, she is going to end up dying very soon and he never told her that he is in love with herrr
And I need TTG to repair the damage they did to my heart after the rejection from Selina.
Yeah, he's tied with Gabe for me in 3rd/4th place. I just wish it was part of a continuing trend rather than a serious problem that needed to be fixed in the first place.
Yeah. I mean, Alvin at least got a decent justification, sendoff, and lipservice because of his importance to the plot/series, but the rest were just terrible.
It was no one special, is just to show you how the NF started to lose people after all that drama.
If Max is alive, the one that leaves instead of that woman is Ava.
Well, this is after the backlash Season 2 got, so it shouldn't be that much of a surprise. Which I'm personally greatful for, since it leads… more to some interesting story and gameplay variation.
I just wish this was an improvement they didn't have to make in the first place.
My bad, it has nothing to do with Max alive, if you run away with Kate you get the girl with black hair and if you go to David's house with Gabe and Kate you get Ava.
My bad, it has nothing to do with Max alive, if you run away with Kate you get the girl with black hair and if you go to David's house with Gabe and Kate you get Ava.
Yeah, that was weird to me. "Nothing can save him and he's going to die, but we'll take care of him because he won't last out there with you." I'm sorry, what?
So... Nothing can help AJ, therefore they... Keep AJ when they banish Clementine for stealing medicine to help AJ? What the shit? Not even ready to touch on how brief the flashback sounds.
Are you fucking kidding me. "telltale ur determinants always die no matter what u shit choices matter my arse" "Telltale your determinant characters actually don't die wtf are you doing" You people always find something to bitch about. Jesus
I don't know why Telltale made all this effort to create this character development for Conrad in Episode 3 since 95% of people won't see it. It would have been a better ideea if they would have done that with Pete in Season 2.
Improvement on ep 1 and 2 despite a lot of problems. Reunion with David should have meant more. Not enough shock, happiness or emotion from either side. Clementine just isn't anything great in this season. I said that if season 3 was her debut then she wouldn't have anything close to the amount of fans she has now. This ep has just strengthened these thoughts.
I am gonna assume she is some returning character or something, would make sense the way they have presented her, we have only seen her twice, and she was wearing glasses both times, I assume she is a returning "surprise" character, since they go out of their way to show her in 2 scenes, and they hide her face
Or she could be some random person, it just feels weird that they put focus on a faceless character twice
Cake, only because veggies are probably a more prominent thing than a fucking CHOCOLATE cake in the apocalypse, but knowing who made it, its probably filled with poison or mind controlling pills.
Clementine hug! fuck yeah, still not really satisfied with Clementines playtime, since I think playing dual protagonist could be interesting.
Dont really feel severe pressure when making choices, getting out of Richmond or following Davids plan, I dunno, I really like David, but I really dont want to be in Richmond.
Still doesnt feel as severe or hopeless as previous seasons, I feel like the whole family thing has made the choices alot less interesting, I want to go along with David, but I dont trust Richmond, David doesnt have enough of that mystery over him that other characters like St. Johns or Norma in Michonne, he seems way to likeable, I would have liked him to be more mysterious, distrusting, they havent seen each other for 4 years, but none of them are suspicious, and David doesnt seem very distrustworthy despite the game repeatedly telling you you shouldnt trust him.
Hug Clementine!
Badger killing was weird, I dunno how to kill him quickly, I wish I had known, still dont understand quite why people are so judgemental towards Javier bashing in his skull, he was the cause of everyones grief.
Clementine still doesnt really change at all depending on previous choices, after bashing Badgers head, she even said "I had a friend once who took a crowbar to someones face", even though she never saw Carver get killed in my playthrough
I still dont like the huge focus on communities and whatnot, game doesnt really feel like youre surviving a zombie apocalypse, feels more like a mix of a dating sim, and talking to people simulator, if youre gonna make almost the entire episode be in Richmond, at least have it be more erie, game keeps telling you that Richmond is bad, and I agree, but it doesnt have that same feel that a place like St. Johns had, where you want the paradise to be true, but in reality its a shithole.
But you get to hug Clementine!
I hope Clementine being on the cover for episode 4 means that its actually gonna be centered around her somehow, although probably not.
Feel like it was kinda silly how you still get thrown in a cell, even if you have Max to be a witness against the raids.
I really enjoyed this episode much more than the previous ones this season. I think Season 3 is heading towards the right path.
Btw I was wondering if someone could shed some light onto this for me?
You know how at the end of the episode Clem and Javi have a moment by themselves and clem says that once she gets AJ she's hopping into a truck and driving away? She then tells Javi to not trust David and you're prompted to respond. I picked 'You're right, Clem' and she gave her usual response, she ended it by saying "Family means something different now. You have to make it for yourself." However, I noticed on many other playthroughs on YouTube, when others pick the same option Clem says something a little different at the end.
If it's not too much trouble you can check out this youtube video and it shows Clem saying this, "But you're no dummy. Your instincts have been right most of the time. I know you'll make the right call" and walks away. Does anyone have an idea why the response is different? I'm pretty sure I sided with Clem every opportunity that was presented to me. I'm planning on doing a final playthrough once the series is finished, but I would like to trigger this voice line as it sort of reminds me of siding with Kenny 100% in both seasons 1 and 2.
Sorry if this isn't the right place to comment this.
Im pretty sure I got the other line you mentioned below, no clue what triggers it though, I do remember her saying "I know youll make the right call, and talking about my instincts", I have been pretty much licking Clementines boots in this game, not only because I know her from previous seasons, but because she seems alot more dependable and skilled than the other people in the game.
I didnt open the door for david in the storehouse, if it makes any difference
Haha I did not let David in, I saw in another playthrough that the player also didn't let him in and she still said the "you're no dummy" line. I feel like I have also been siding with Clem on every single instance. Not sure what's up with that.
I might have to just redo my file at a later time, did you two by any chance shoot the driver in ep 1, and at the end of ep 1 did you fight with clem vs run with family?
Also did you two shoot conrad in ep 2?
I let him go, fought with clem and shot conrad. I'm just a bit curious..
Im pretty sure I got the other line you mentioned below, no clue what triggers it though, I do remember her saying "I know youll make the ri… moreght call, and talking about my instincts", I have been pretty much licking Clementines boots in this game, not only because I know her from previous seasons, but because she seems alot more dependable and skilled than the other people in the game.
I didnt open the door for david in the storehouse, if it makes any difference
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To be honest, I think the game was punishing you for killing Conrad.
Less screen time for Clem, no development for the man himself.
Now, I'm pretty sure that 98.65% of all players couldn't give a damn about Conrad's character development (Excluding me, teehee!), but I'm pretty sure that almost everyone loves extra screen time for Clem, so uh... There.
Someone proposed (a few pages back) that Conrad should have multiple deaths, until he finally meets his end. That would be quite unique.
If only S2 determinant characters had the same development (like you mentioned)... Oh, what could have been.
Why would I want more screen time of an already ruined/edgy character that's not going anywhere, if this season isn't treated as S3 of the main game?
I just... can't watch her anymore...
Well I did say "almost".
The fact that 90% of all players killed Conrad without too much hesitation really shows how attached a lot of people are [to Clementine], regardless of her change in character.
I mean... It is what it is.
Well, this is after the backlash Season 2 got, so it shouldn't be that much of a surprise. Which I'm personally greatful for, since it leads to some interesting story and gameplay variation.
I just wish this was an improvement they didn't have to make in the first place.
I have to say I'm impressed with how Telltale handled Conrad's character in episode 3. Hell he even did better then Nick's determinant character from Season 2. Conrad just became one of my favorite characters. And it's cool how he can die in Episode 3 or make it alive to Episode 4. I also liked that he apologized for what he did, which also adds a bit of character development. But what's better is that they give you the option to let Conrad kill Badger which is good because he gets to deliver justice for Francine, shoot him in the head instead of having Javier bash out his brains, and to prevent him from turning. I hope we get to see more of Conrad in the future and after seeing his character, I hope he survives. But of course this is TWD so anything can still happen to him (really hoping it doesn't though). One more thing to mention. That quote Conrad said to Badger just before he shot him in the head, "your not a man, your nothing". Badass. Definitely worth remembering in my book.
Yeah, he's tied with Gabe for me in 3rd/4th place. I just wish it was part of a continuing trend rather than a serious problem that needed to be fixed in the first place.
Jesus, I need so badly for Javi to say "I love you" to Kate, she is going to end up dying very soon and he never told her that he is in love with herrr
And I need TTG to repair the damage they did to my heart after the rejection from Selina.
What do you mean exactly?
I think this might be the first ever episode of the Walking Dead that didn't have a main character's death. XD
AJ if David is lying.
Alvin, Nick, Sarita, and especially Sarah deserved to get some additional limelight in the event they survived the moment they became determinate.
They all had potential to do better but they just killed them off like they were nothing.
Yeah. I mean, Alvin at least got a decent justification, sendoff, and lipservice because of his importance to the plot/series, but the rest were just terrible.
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Who was that woman with an AKwhatever who shook her head and went out of the room at the end.
I don't know, I heard about her too. Is she the one with Sunglasses?
Yeah
It was no one special, is just to show you how the NF started to lose people after all that drama.
If Max is alive, the one that leaves instead of that woman is Ava.
I saw a playthrough with Max alive but Ava wasnt there
Why couldn't they instead of "Muh Wife" Conrad made Mari determinant, you know?
Lets say that Mari mattered to David or Kate, this game needs consequences!
My bad, it has nothing to do with Max alive, if you run away with Kate you get the girl with black hair and if you go to David's house with Gabe and Kate you get Ava.
oh okay
More hints on Gabe's crush on Clementine... (For god's sake, don't let this fcked up ship happen!)
Is above the law(episode 3) launched in UK?
Yeah, that was weird to me. "Nothing can save him and he's going to die, but we'll take care of him because he won't last out there with you." I'm sorry, what?
Nope, hour and a half. Which is decent, still would like it to be more though.
Yeah I played at 12am today on ps4
Are you fucking kidding me. "telltale ur determinants always die no matter what u shit choices matter my arse" "Telltale your determinant characters actually don't die wtf are you doing" You people always find something to bitch about. Jesus
I can finally open and read this whopping mess of a thread.
Sooo... did you pick spinach soup or cake? I personally went with the cake. :P
Oh, don't start that again.
Improvement on ep 1 and 2 despite a lot of problems. Reunion with David should have meant more. Not enough shock, happiness or emotion from either side. Clementine just isn't anything great in this season. I said that if season 3 was her debut then she wouldn't have anything close to the amount of fans she has now. This ep has just strengthened these thoughts.
I am gonna assume she is some returning character or something, would make sense the way they have presented her, we have only seen her twice, and she was wearing glasses both times, I assume she is a returning "surprise" character, since they go out of their way to show her in 2 scenes, and they hide her face
Or she could be some random person, it just feels weird that they put focus on a faceless character twice
Cake, only because veggies are probably a more prominent thing than a fucking CHOCOLATE cake in the apocalypse, but knowing who made it, its probably filled with poison or mind controlling pills.
Clementine hug! fuck yeah, still not really satisfied with Clementines playtime, since I think playing dual protagonist could be interesting.
Dont really feel severe pressure when making choices, getting out of Richmond or following Davids plan, I dunno, I really like David, but I really dont want to be in Richmond.
Still doesnt feel as severe or hopeless as previous seasons, I feel like the whole family thing has made the choices alot less interesting, I want to go along with David, but I dont trust Richmond, David doesnt have enough of that mystery over him that other characters like St. Johns or Norma in Michonne, he seems way to likeable, I would have liked him to be more mysterious, distrusting, they havent seen each other for 4 years, but none of them are suspicious, and David doesnt seem very distrustworthy despite the game repeatedly telling you you shouldnt trust him.
Hug Clementine!
Badger killing was weird, I dunno how to kill him quickly, I wish I had known, still dont understand quite why people are so judgemental towards Javier bashing in his skull, he was the cause of everyones grief.
Clementine still doesnt really change at all depending on previous choices, after bashing Badgers head, she even said "I had a friend once who took a crowbar to someones face", even though she never saw Carver get killed in my playthrough
I still dont like the huge focus on communities and whatnot, game doesnt really feel like youre surviving a zombie apocalypse, feels more like a mix of a dating sim, and talking to people simulator, if youre gonna make almost the entire episode be in Richmond, at least have it be more erie, game keeps telling you that Richmond is bad, and I agree, but it doesnt have that same feel that a place like St. Johns had, where you want the paradise to be true, but in reality its a shithole.
But you get to hug Clementine!
I hope Clementine being on the cover for episode 4 means that its actually gonna be centered around her somehow, although probably not.
Feel like it was kinda silly how you still get thrown in a cell, even if you have Max to be a witness against the raids.
Did I mention you could hug Clementine?
I really enjoyed this episode much more than the previous ones this season. I think Season 3 is heading towards the right path.
Btw I was wondering if someone could shed some light onto this for me?
You know how at the end of the episode Clem and Javi have a moment by themselves and clem says that once she gets AJ she's hopping into a truck and driving away? She then tells Javi to not trust David and you're prompted to respond. I picked 'You're right, Clem' and she gave her usual response, she ended it by saying "Family means something different now. You have to make it for yourself." However, I noticed on many other playthroughs on YouTube, when others pick the same option Clem says something a little different at the end.
If it's not too much trouble you can check out this youtube video and it shows Clem saying this, "But you're no dummy. Your instincts have been right most of the time. I know you'll make the right call" and walks away. Does anyone have an idea why the response is different? I'm pretty sure I sided with Clem every opportunity that was presented to me. I'm planning on doing a final playthrough once the series is finished, but I would like to trigger this voice line as it sort of reminds me of siding with Kenny 100% in both seasons 1 and 2.
Sorry if this isn't the right place to comment this.
Because you didn't let David in, I guess? I did let him in and she said that ''youre no dummy'' line later on.
Im pretty sure I got the other line you mentioned below, no clue what triggers it though, I do remember her saying "I know youll make the right call, and talking about my instincts", I have been pretty much licking Clementines boots in this game, not only because I know her from previous seasons, but because she seems alot more dependable and skilled than the other people in the game.
I didnt open the door for david in the storehouse, if it makes any difference
Haha I did not let David in, I saw in another playthrough that the player also didn't let him in and she still said the "you're no dummy" line. I feel like I have also been siding with Clem on every single instance. Not sure what's up with that.
I might have to just redo my file at a later time, did you two by any chance shoot the driver in ep 1, and at the end of ep 1 did you fight with clem vs run with family?
Also did you two shoot conrad in ep 2?
I let him go, fought with clem and shot conrad. I'm just a bit curious..