That's a genius idea that features heavy impact of player choices, a character arc for one of the game's main characters, and a peaceful and satisfying conclusion to one of the game's biggest subplots that doesn't create any forced drama between the other characters.
I would honestly like to see Kate's development where, if the player consistently turns her down, she comes to realize that her attachment t… moreo Javier was really just born out of her own desire to escape from her implied dysfunctional relationship with David. Kate then recognizes that it's becoming a one-sided affair and is not exactly the most healthy relationship to have, and she decides to apologize to Javier for her behaviour and learns to be more open with what she thinks of her relationship with David, while learning to deal with her problems more independently.
I don't really want the writers to continue enforcing the romance sub-plot on the player if we keep declining her offer, and having Kate's character suffer because of it.
What right is there? Modern society does not exist...and she is not property.
Now...I can agree...it sucks for David...but she had said goodbye to being married....now we can argue that Kate is a flake...or perhaps rushed into marriage without really knowing David.
What right is there? Modern society does not exist...and she is not property.
Now...I can agree...it sucks for David...but she had said … moregoodbye to being married....now we can argue that Kate is a flake...or perhaps rushed into marriage without really knowing David.
"no he's not" Sorry not sorry, but I don't make the rules. Especially with what Job said about what matters in your heart being more important, so Javi, go follow that man of your dreams. Or men! Or neither--I don't care!
I'm not sure grammar is a high priority here lol. Regardless, this is more of a personal decision considering the ho was whining about having to be a motherfigure before the world fell apart, and she was trying to jump into this douchebags pants while she was with her husband.
and she is not property.
Yeah, that was my thought throughout your entire conversation. I don't think that's what he's saying, but his grammar isn't the best.
That kined of thinking its the same way that every one dose in the ZA and that what make the ppl go crazy from first place let the think there is no law and they have the right to kill ppl so they can survive and because there is no law and the other ppl life dosen't matter and the jobe of law is to protocet evrery one's life to keep the ppl humen
they have the right to robe ppl cus there is no law and they need to survive even if other ppl die hungery it dosent matter his life is not importent why cus there is no law
The job of the law from the first place is protecting ppl
If ppl just stick togather and keep their moralty and the law they might at least survive the ZA with less problems they will only worry abot the dead not fro the undead.
and she is not property.
i didn't say she is
I can agree...it sucks for David...but she had said goodbye to being married
she should talk with him not do it on her own without talking him when they married they decided to marry togther if they want to go appart they should agree on that togather not like fuvk that i am out and in the worst time ever she let her husban to die in a war easly what kined of person is she no matter how I look to it she seem to me like jane 2.0 she totaly selfish like her think only about what make her safe and pleased not about the family.
What right is there? Modern society does not exist...and she is not property.
Now...I can agree...it sucks for David...but she had said … moregoodbye to being married....now we can argue that Kate is a flake...or perhaps rushed into marriage without really knowing David.
Not sure why you're acting like as if this is a family drama reality show. The laws of marriage and morals of infidelity don't apply in this world anymore.
society does not exist
That kined of thinking its the same way that every one dose in the ZA and that what make the ppl go crazy fro… morem first place let the think there is no law and they have the right to kill ppl so they can survive and because there is no law and the other ppl life dosen't matter and the jobe of law is to protocet evrery one's life to keep the ppl humen
they have the right to robe ppl cus there is no law and they need to survive even if other ppl die hungery it dosent matter his life is not importent why cus there is no law
The job of the law from the first place is protecting ppl
If ppl just stick togather and keep their moralty and the law they might at least survive the ZA with less problems they will only worry abot the dead not fro the undead.
and she is not property.
i didn't say she is
I can agree...it sucks for David...but she had said goodbye to being married
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society does not exist
That kined of thinking its the same way that every one dose in the ZA and that what make the ppl go crazy fro… morem first place let the think there is no law and they have the right to kill ppl so they can survive and because there is no law and the other ppl life dosen't matter and the jobe of law is to protocet evrery one's life to keep the ppl humen
they have the right to robe ppl cus there is no law and they need to survive even if other ppl die hungery it dosent matter his life is not importent why cus there is no law
The job of the law from the first place is protecting ppl
If ppl just stick togather and keep their moralty and the law they might at least survive the ZA with less problems they will only worry abot the dead not fro the undead.
and she is not property.
i didn't say she is
I can agree...it sucks for David...but she had said goodbye to being married
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she should talk with him not do it on her own without talking him when they married they decided to marry togther if they want to go appart they should agree on that togather not like fuvk that i am out and in the worst time ever she let her husban to die in a war easly what kined of person is she
And this is what I hoped you were getting at. And yes, I agree that this would be the best approach for both sides.
no matter how I look to it she seem to me like jane 2.0 she totaly selfish like her think only about what make her safe and pleased not about the family.
Ugh...I'm not saying I can't why you'd say that(hell, I thought she was Jane when the cover art was first released), but I really don't think she's anywhere near as bad. For one thing, Kate clearly cares about her family despite what her (determinate) actions suggest. Honestly, they only got caught because she was dragging her feet due to missing Gabe and she could've just left on her own once Javier gave her the go ahead anyway.
society does not exist
That kined of thinking its the same way that every one dose in the ZA and that what make the ppl go crazy fro… morem first place let the think there is no law and they have the right to kill ppl so they can survive and because there is no law and the other ppl life dosen't matter and the jobe of law is to protocet evrery one's life to keep the ppl humen
they have the right to robe ppl cus there is no law and they need to survive even if other ppl die hungery it dosent matter his life is not importent why cus there is no law
The job of the law from the first place is protecting ppl
If ppl just stick togather and keep their moralty and the law they might at least survive the ZA with less problems they will only worry abot the dead not fro the undead.
and she is not property.
i didn't say she is
I can agree...it sucks for David...but she had said goodbye to being married
she should talk wit… [view original content]
How dangerous what he did to be dangerous to the family he is trying to protect his family and to fix the new frontier there nothing dangerous he dose to his family he hid his family in his house and that was better than going out to the no where alone like kate did.
she seem to me like jane 2.0 she totaly selfish like her think only about what make her safe and pleased not about the family.
Why do you think she wants to get away from David? She thinks he's dangerous and wants her family to be safe.
Kenny did not kill Larry in a cold hearted fashion as you always continue to judge wrong quite frankly and it can't be murder when you don't know a 100% for sure that someone is dead or not. How can you say it was cold hearted when you know that he did what he did to keep everyone safe?? Is Lilly's feelings more important than staying alive? It's not about showing compassion in that situation. The way it all happened was horrible for her yes but showing compassion there and then could get you killed.
Oh I agree...however...being tailored does not mean that you have override on story elements...you can skew story elements such as not retur… morening Kate's affection...but she will always be sweet on you and that will hurt David's feelings.
Just as in season 1 you may have disagreed with killing Larry...but Larry is gonna die no matter what...but you made a choice on moral principles. You could be a cold hearted murderer and help Kenny or you could show some fucking compassion and help Lilly.
Now of course I will agree that they have made things worse by at least not having Kate feel bad that you do not share her feelings...but eh...I will get to that with my season review.
How am I judging him wrong? Did Kenny kill him or not? Were people trying or not trying to save Larry? Now do not misunderstand me....Larry was a pos and no tears did I ever shed for him. But what Kenny did was murder. And so my point was...yes it was a moral choice...to help a woman save her father...or tear that woman screaming from her father so some hick can bash his brains with a block of mineral salt.
I do love S1 Kenny...at the end of the season when he died a hero...I was broken hearted to see him go. Which is quite a feat from going from Larry's murder to finding peace and willing to die for someone like Ben. Mind was blown.
You could be a cold hearted murderer and help Kenny or you could show some fucking compassion and help Lilly.
Being a bitter blue no… morese again i see @kennySHOULDa?
Kenny did not kill Larry in a cold hearted fashion as you always continue to judge wrong quite frankly and it can't be murder when you don't know a 100% for sure that someone is dead or not. How can you say it was cold hearted when you know that he did what he did to keep everyone safe?? Is Lilly's feelings more important than staying alive? It's not about showing compassion in that situation. The way it all happened was horrible for her yes but showing compassion there and then could get you killed.
Jeez!
How am I judging him wrong? Did Kenny kill him or not? Were people trying or not trying to save Larry?
It was your judgement in saying that Kenny killed Larry "cold heartedly" what i felt was wrong because we both know that isn't true. He didn't do it in cold blood or to hurt Lilly.
Now do not misunderstand me....Larry was a pos and no tears did I ever shed for him. But what Kenny did was murder.
Again i'll repeat what i said before, how can it be murder if said person (Larry in this case) could be dead or alive but is unclear for "certain" to know for sure?
And so my point was...yes it was a moral choice...to help a woman save her father...or tear that woman screaming from her father so some hick can bash his brains with a block of mineral salt.
And again with respect here, you seem to be ignoring or didn't see what i put in my previous post. Is someone's feelings (Lilly) more important than saving her and everyone else's lives when there is an extremely high chance they could all die themselves due to the danger they were in? Think about that for a second. As i also said before, yes it was horrible for her and i get that and i too wish it never happened for her because no one deserves to go through that. But look at it from the other point of view as well. In a life or death situation what would you honestly do? Picture yourself in a locked room and this happening instead of just being behind a computer screen. Do you risk trying to save one man (who i can guarantee would not do the same for you if roles were reversed) or take the hard decision of stopping a threat by saving multiple lives? I know what i'd do. I'd hate myself for it but i'd have to do it.
If you have seen Fear The Walking Dead there is an episode in series 2 creepily similar to the meat locker scene where someone dies and another is trying to revive him through cpr and mouth to mouth and that person got his mouth ripped off. What if that happened to Lee or Lilly? That's my stand on the matter anyway.
Sorry for the long reply. I get carried away at times. I appreciate what you said in general though. I get it.
How am I judging him wrong? Did Kenny kill him or not? Were people trying or not trying to save Larry? Now do not misunderstand me....Lar… morery was a pos and no tears did I ever shed for him. But what Kenny did was murder. And so my point was...yes it was a moral choice...to help a woman save her father...or tear that woman screaming from her father so some hick can bash his brains with a block of mineral salt.
I do love S1 Kenny...at the end of the season when he died a hero...I was broken hearted to see him go. Which is quite a feat from going from Larry's murder to finding peace and willing to die for someone like Ben. Mind was blown.
How am I judging him wrong? Did Kenny kill him or not? Were people trying or not trying to save Larry?
It was your judgement in sayi… moreng that Kenny killed Larry "cold heartedly" what i felt was wrong because we both know that isn't true. He didn't do it in cold blood or to hurt Lilly.
Now do not misunderstand me....Larry was a pos and no tears did I ever shed for him. But what Kenny did was murder.
Again i'll repeat what i said before, how can it be murder if said person (Larry in this case) could be dead or alive but is unclear for "certain" to know for sure?
And so my point was...yes it was a moral choice...to help a woman save her father...or tear that woman screaming from her father so some hick can bash his brains with a block of mineral salt.
And again with respect here, you seem to be ignoring or didn't see what i put in my previous post. Is someone's feelings (Lilly) more important than saving her and… [view original content]
The characters on the show aren't really likeable which is the main problem for me but it's something to watch i guess. Also Alycia Debnam Carey is eye candy for me haha
LOL so true, that's how I always felt. As Javi, I really wanted to flirt more with Eleanor. I really didn't care about flirting with Kate. That's why I told Tripp to give up and move on when he asked me for advice.
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That's a genius idea that features heavy impact of player choices, a character arc for one of the game's main characters, and a peaceful and satisfying conclusion to one of the game's biggest subplots that doesn't create any forced drama between the other characters.
I can't wait for Telltale to not do this.
All what i am saying after kate new her husband alive he had the right over any person no matter what he is to be with her.
So beautiful.....(insert fangirl sigh)
What right is there? Modern society does not exist...and she is not property.
Now...I can agree...it sucks for David...but she had said goodbye to being married....now we can argue that Kate is a flake...or perhaps rushed into marriage without really knowing David.
Yeah, that was my thought throughout your entire conversation.
I don't think that's what he's saying, but his grammar isn't the best.
I can't believe Javi's attracted to men! :0
"no he's not" Sorry not sorry, but I don't make the rules. Especially with what Job said about what matters in your heart being more important, so Javi, go follow that man of your dreams. Or men! Or neither--I don't care!
I'm not sure grammar is a high priority here lol. Regardless, this is more of a personal decision considering the ho was whining about having to be a motherfigure before the world fell apart, and she was trying to jump into this douchebags pants while she was with her husband.
I am ok with kate
That kined of thinking its the same way that every one dose in the ZA and that what make the ppl go crazy from first place let the think there is no law and they have the right to kill ppl so they can survive and because there is no law and the other ppl life dosen't matter and the jobe of law is to protocet evrery one's life to keep the ppl humen
they have the right to robe ppl cus there is no law and they need to survive even if other ppl die hungery it dosent matter his life is not importent why cus there is no law
The job of the law from the first place is protecting ppl
If ppl just stick togather and keep their moralty and the law they might at least survive the ZA with less problems they will only worry abot the dead not fro the undead.
i didn't say she is
she should talk with him not do it on her own without talking him when they married they decided to marry togther if they want to go appart they should agree on that togather not like fuvk that i am out and in the worst time ever she let her husban to die in a war easly what kined of person is she no matter how I look to it she seem to me like jane 2.0 she totaly selfish like her think only about what make her safe and pleased not about the family.
Not sure why you're acting like as if this is a family drama reality show. The laws of marriage and morals of infidelity don't apply in this world anymore.
Why do you think she wants to get away from David? She thinks he's dangerous and wants her family to be safe.
And this is what I hoped you were getting at. And yes, I agree that this would be the best approach for both sides.
Ugh...I'm not saying I can't why you'd say that(hell, I thought she was Jane when the cover art was first released), but I really don't think she's anywhere near as bad. For one thing, Kate clearly cares about her family despite what her (determinate) actions suggest. Honestly, they only got caught because she was dragging her feet due to missing Gabe and she could've just left on her own once Javier gave her the go ahead anyway.
How dangerous what he did to be dangerous to the family he is trying to protect his family and to fix the new frontier there nothing dangerous he dose to his family he hid his family in his house and that was better than going out to the no where alone like kate did.
Being a bitter blue nose again i see @kennySHOULDa?
Kenny did not kill Larry in a cold hearted fashion as you always continue to judge wrong quite frankly and it can't be murder when you don't know a 100% for sure that someone is dead or not. How can you say it was cold hearted when you know that he did what he did to keep everyone safe?? Is Lilly's feelings more important than staying alive? It's not about showing compassion in that situation. The way it all happened was horrible for her yes but showing compassion there and then could get you killed.
Jeez!
How am I judging him wrong? Did Kenny kill him or not? Were people trying or not trying to save Larry? Now do not misunderstand me....Larry was a pos and no tears did I ever shed for him. But what Kenny did was murder. And so my point was...yes it was a moral choice...to help a woman save her father...or tear that woman screaming from her father so some hick can bash his brains with a block of mineral salt.
I do love S1 Kenny...at the end of the season when he died a hero...I was broken hearted to see him go. Which is quite a feat from going from Larry's murder to finding peace and willing to die for someone like Ben. Mind was blown.
It was your judgement in saying that Kenny killed Larry "cold heartedly" what i felt was wrong because we both know that isn't true. He didn't do it in cold blood or to hurt Lilly.
Again i'll repeat what i said before, how can it be murder if said person (Larry in this case) could be dead or alive but is unclear for "certain" to know for sure?
And again with respect here, you seem to be ignoring or didn't see what i put in my previous post. Is someone's feelings (Lilly) more important than saving her and everyone else's lives when there is an extremely high chance they could all die themselves due to the danger they were in? Think about that for a second. As i also said before, yes it was horrible for her and i get that and i too wish it never happened for her because no one deserves to go through that. But look at it from the other point of view as well. In a life or death situation what would you honestly do? Picture yourself in a locked room and this happening instead of just being behind a computer screen. Do you risk trying to save one man (who i can guarantee would not do the same for you if roles were reversed) or take the hard decision of stopping a threat by saving multiple lives? I know what i'd do. I'd hate myself for it but i'd have to do it.
If you have seen Fear The Walking Dead there is an episode in series 2 creepily similar to the meat locker scene where someone dies and another is trying to revive him through cpr and mouth to mouth and that person got his mouth ripped off. What if that happened to Lee or Lilly? That's my stand on the matter anyway.
Sorry for the long reply. I get carried away at times. I appreciate what you said in general though. I get it.
Nah never got into Fear the Walking Dead...have heard it is either good or not fit to carry guts to a bear.
The characters on the show aren't really likeable which is the main problem for me but it's something to watch i guess. Also Alycia Debnam Carey is eye candy for me haha
Well, Kate and Javi won't be a problem anymore that's for sure. Even if she magically survived, I told her flat out I had no feelings for her.
LOL so true, that's how I always felt. As Javi, I really wanted to flirt more with Eleanor. I really didn't care about flirting with Kate. That's why I told Tripp to give up and move on when he asked me for advice.