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Did you inject Lingard to die or left him alive? I injected him cause Clem needed AJ's location and Lingard was a drug addict which makes him unstable and suffer.
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Did you inject Lingard to die or left him alive? I injected him cause Clem needed AJ's location and Lingard was a drug addict which makes him unstable and suffer.
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No because Lingard is a doctor ain't many of those around
He was too unstable to be a doctor too.
Yeah but addicts can recover a a high doctor is better than no doctor
People who want to commit suicide aren't in their right minds in the moment, so no.
I didn't inject him, i didn't feel it was the right thing to do even if it means Clementine got the information she wanted and i also thought he could still be useful if we needed him after he sobered up.
I didn't but I actually have a question for those who did, does he tell you AJ's location or something about him? (Simple yes or no, no spoilers please)
He does tell us AJ's location.
Nice, ty. I thought he was just bullshiting us.
I didn't, it was his call to make. Javier shouldn't go and take away people's lives only because they ask them to. If Lingard truly was suicidal, he did it without Javi's help.
You guys just can't kill someone who wants to die when it comes to have Clem reunite with AJ? I'm actually surprised. I killed Lingard to find AJ.
No, since we later save David.
I refused. I mean look, I understand the concept of euthanasia, but I'd only agree to it in a case where it is absolutely necessary. If someone was going to die or otherwise suffer, then I'd do it. I'd still be reluctant, but I'd do it.
That wasn't the case with Lingard. And besides, I could honestly sympathize with the guy. He's someone that has taken one too many punches, and simply can't deal with it anymore. His addiction is a means of escaping, but he can't bring himself to punch his own ticket. And to be fair, that's not really the first time we've seen that kind of character. We've seen it to some extent in Kenny-- in the back half of S2, it's pretty clear that he wanted to die, but he didn't have it in him to do it himself. So he would throw himself into walkers and other threats in the slim hope that this would be the one that finally does him in.
I just couldn't kill the guy in good conscience, regardless of the information he knows. Furthermore, he's a doctor, and above that, a good man, regardless of his problems. He's someone that's still capable of good, capable of helping other people, even if he doesn't really want to help himself.
Also, why we're on the subject, I really gotta hand it to his voice actor for one specific line. If you choose the "do it yourself" option when he asks you to inject him, his response is "I can't... I'm a fucking coward..."
The delivery of that specific line was spot-on. You can feel the pain and defeat in his voice.
I didn't inject him but I wasn't paying attention to the conversation because I was in the heat of the moment trying to process what he was asking me to do so when clem mentioned AJ I just went back to kill him, at least I honored his wishes aswell as clem's, and I also objected to it at first so javi doesn't seem like a monster. Trying to take on board the advice that Jesus gave me, Joan was the exception.
Yeah I did. Clem's finding that baby and Lingard wanted it, so I see no problem.
I did inject him. It's what he wanted.
I didn't, but only because I thought he wasn't going to tell me where AJ was if I did. Turns out it was the other way round. I have to saves anyway, just so I can see how different the episode turns out.
But David said he didn't know where AJ is.
I injected him. Clementine needed the location (and so did I!).
I injected him. I had a hard time deciding which to do, (on my first time I refused, because I thought that if I killed him I wouldn't know where AJ was, but I misinterpreted it, I guess.) I went back to the main menu and restarted the scene from the previous save. I debated for a while what to do, but I really wanted that info on AJ. I did it, but I felt so bad about it. Killing him like that wasn't right. He wasn't in his right mind, There was no true reason why he should die then and there... I quit after the next save and checked my choices, and I found out that Javi doesn't need to do it, Clem can if you do nothing. And here I was thinking that nothing=Refuse. Lucky 1.3%
Y'know what would solve this easy? REWIND. This way I don't have to go back and play through a whole hour to get back to where I left off with that choice.
P.S: Currently in the middle of the episode, I didn't finish it yet. So for now I morally regret my choice, but I have a feeling I might regret it more later on. This choice will have some sort of impact here, I'm sure.
Anything for our God clem
It was a difficult choice for me to make, and I originally didn't want to go along with it, but with the knowledge of AJ's location and the fact that he was asking for it (you can argue he wasn't in the right mindset since he was high, but he was making some sense when he explained it to Javi and Clem, so it did sound like that this is what he truly wanted), I decided to do it.
Lingard's voice actor overall was amazing this episode. "David made me care about everything I'd given up on."
Didn't inject him, it didn't feel right. Wouldn't be fair to kill a guy who has no idea what's really going. Don't love the guy, but I feel like my decision will come back in a positive aspect in the finale
No, I didn't. There's another way, like Javi said.
No I didn't... and frankly I was concerned with Clem's eagerness to go with it. She seems to have developed a dangerously one-track mind about AJ which has been demonstrated earlier too with her threatening to shoot Javier for wanting to open the door for David, his own brother, so that the walkers wouldn't kill him. At least then she had real animosity toward David but Lingard has never done anything to personally hurt Clem. Yet the information about AJ seemed to be enough for her to kill him, no matter he wasn't in his right mind to ask for such a deal.
There's other reasons too. I understand the concept of euthanasia and agree with it but only when there's no other way. Lingard's case was different. He's not terminally ill or otherwise beyond help. He has done this to himself in order to escape the harsh reality but is still unable to kill himself and asks for someone else to do it. It's not my Javier's place to decide, nor Clementine's. If Lingard TRULY wants to die, he can do it himself.
I think Lingard is still capable of doing good. He seems like a good man, troubled but good, and the fact that he's a doctor also makes him rather valuable. I didn't want him to give up and judged by everything said it seems like he only needs motivation, a reason to care, to get back on his feet. There's been other characters like this before. Also, he needs to think this through while not under the influence of the drugs. Would he still ask for it while clear-headed?
So, sorry Clem. Information about AJ just isn't enough for me to go kill good people so don't you go "How could you?" when I refuse to do it. There's another way.
Would be a rather good twist actually if Javi or Clem herself gets injured in Ep.5 and a doctor is needed. Good thing we didn't kill one then, huh.
Well, Lingard thought that David wouldn't come out alive, but he did, so that negates the whole reason why Lingard wanted to kill himself, right?
And Joan did gesture at him when she was talking about people that they lost and for him she said "Lovers"
I did notice that. Lingard's a really interesting character and I want to see more from him. It's a shame that the season's almost over.
I was really stumped on this choice. I wanted to get the lead on where AJ is for Clementine but I also didn't want the poor bastard to give up so easily. I couldn't even make a choice and before I can forcefully choose one or the other, the timer ran out. And that was when Clem took the syringe and we learned about AJ's whereabouts. I was hoping Clem would then refuse to inject afterwards (deceitful I know, but it would be a double win in my position) but then she injected him herself. Sigh...