Your chances of forgiving Gabe for selling Javi out and why? [Spoilers]
This only happens when you killed Conrad in Ep 2. In Ep 4, Gabe will reveal to Tripp and Eleanor that you shot Conrad and had them pissed at us, basically splitting our group further apart by creating unnecessary tension between us, ultimately putting Javi and the others in more danger.
Part of me is torn at whether we should forgive him at these circumstances.
Don't get me wrong, I was upset too, the fact he acted so immaturely, trying to prove a point without realising the consequences can be way worse.
But he's a teen so maybe they can somewhat get irrational and act the way they do, plus it's not like leaving him/ killing him is going to change anything (unless you replay Ep 2). Some do say letting Gabe go will be safer for the group, but he's still Javi's nephew.
For those reasons, I'd say my chances of forgiving Gabe will be 45%. What are your chances for forgiving him and what are your arguments?
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I didn't kill Conrad so... he's alright with me.
Just go back to save Conrad so you have no reason to be mad at him.
You are the one who pulled the trigger, not Gabe.
So you have to deal with the fact you lied to Tripp about leaving his friend behind.
Gabe is just a stupid teen.
But even Gabe finally realised shooting Conrad was wrong.
He just didn't know the consequenses of his impulsive mouth.
In my playgame Gabe is fine.
Same here.
I'm only mad at him because he was the one yelling at me to kill him during the train tunnel sequence and if you accept Conrad's plan he will shout at you and call you a fucking coward.
I do agree that Gabe realising Javi's mistake is a good thing, and that he has to consider more of his surroundings and the situation
Mostly Javi's actions are justified in my book and he could have dealt with it just fine had Gabe not stepped in.
Javi living with this mistake is one thing, Gabe adding fuel to the fire (on himself too, no less) is another. Just sayin
I know right? It's frustrating
Absolutely 0% if he continues to act like a whiny little bitch and fails to own up to his mistakes. If he does start acting like a man and apologizes, then I will definitely consider it, but I'm someone who tends to hold grudges for long periods of time, so it's going to take a lot of effort on his part for me to be able to forgive him.
Well he's still a whiney little idiot who keeps messing up but yeah, you're right.
"This guy is crazy, Javi! Shoot him!"
2 episodes later...
"He only tried to bargain with you, but you thought shooting him would be easier!"
Zero chance. Forgiving him for fucking double-crossing us just because he wants to stay relevant in the group is just laughable. That pea-brained prick ain't getting shit.
Cough Cough Gabentine Cough Cough
i used to like gabe, but now.ho ho.. now 0% my friend
Cough cough I don't give a shit if Gabentine is a thing cough cough
Gabentine is TRASH!!!!
I was soooo neutral about him until episode 4. If he still keeps acting like a bitch, he can just fuck off.
Because its not going back to "save conrad", its going back to betray clementine and barter with someone holding gabe at gunpoint.
Anyway as for gabe got to give him my congratulations, I honestly wasnt too concerned with gabe either way before this episode, he wasnt that annoying or likeable. However now no reason for him to survive
I assume you don't care for clementine's happiness? She seems very happy being around him. Oh well, looks like we got a clem hater?
Clem forgives you and doesn't even mention it in the other episodes, besides there is an option to say clem is your friend and that it doesn't sit well with you but you are doing it to save Kate's life. Then clem makes a facial expression that shows understanding.
Even telltale said in their above the law AMA that clem forgave javi.
I wanted Clementine to be friends with girls like Sarah but no, Telltale forces her to be happy with a trash bitch like Gabe who threw his own uncle under the bus for no goddamn reason.
I hate to say this, but I just don't like Gabe after Episode 4. I swear, if there is an option for him to die in Episode 5, I'm gonna feel so tempted to let him bite it.
I know killing Conrad has consequences, but at the time, what the heck was I suppose to do? Betray Clementine and let a guy who acted this recklessly remain in the group?
Perhaps but next episode clem might flip out, I mean thats what happened this episode..... Gabe's life is saved and yet he apparently disagreed. I am surprised telltale apparently wants players to hate gabe and want him to die a painful death, there is literally no other reason for that scene otherwise. Also still surprised they keep including characters as stupid as gabe this far into the apocalypse
Seeing as how Gabe apparently thinks me saving his life in episode 2 is such a horrible thing I am perfectly content letting him die in episode 5. Its what he wants apparently.
You know you say this a lot and it really bothers me. You defend Gabe by calling him a "stupid teen" I personally feel that this does him a diservice. Gabe is more than a stereotype. He's a good person who tries to help instead of being a victim or a bystander. He makes mistakes but calling him a stupid teen is not how you defend him. In fact he'd be outraged by it. Gabe's character is all for becoming a man, standing up for his family and doing whatever he can to protect them and he gets angry when he's treated like a child instead of an equal.
Yeah that's why I currently hate him, as to how he could redeem himself ? Idk probably if he dies saving someone
I have 50% for gabe and 50% for ELENOR
85÷, I'd say. He saw his uncle murder a member of the group, to protect him and Clem. Said member was like Kenny, way too emotional for the circumstances, but a good guy. Gabe was angry, I get it. He didn't know who to trust, and made a rushed desicion. He later apologized, so he's fine for me now. But if he fucks up again, I won't give him a second chance.
Yes Gabe has his heart in the right place.
But still was a stupid action to reveal Javi's dark action at the wrong time!
Javi could have been killed.
They were very lucky Tripp is finally a good guy who just showed anger with words.
At some times you have to stay quiet, but inexperienced Gabe didn't.
Still Javi is finally the one to be blamed because he pulled that trigger, not Gabe.
Trust is a very fragile thing, and that boy is gonna have to start earning it all back. Seeing as how there's only one episode left, I'd say chances of that are pretty low.
While I do feel bad about killing Conrad, I just couldn't betray Clementine.
Gabe's a moody teenager with ADHD and the constant need to prove his worth, even it means to get himself hurt in the process.
What he did (spilled the beans) makes him a well-written character and this particular scene was one of a few moments of this season which I actually enjoyed, so I'd say however annoying or repulsive Gabe might seem, he's one of a consistent and memorable people in this game and I'm curious to see his further development.
Ok you clearly have no idea what ADHD is lol
You've literally just proven to me you don't care if clem is happy with someone, you'd rather her be alone and miserable.
That's why shooting Conrad makes no sense. Gabe tells you to shoot him but hates you for it in episode 4, whereas if you spare Conrad you won't have to worry about that
I'm fine with Clem and Gabe as friends but as love relationship? That should just fuck off. Gabe showed he is in love with Clem and I'm NOT letting that happen.
What if clem wants to be in love with him?
Well maybe I exaggerate a little, but Gabe is definitely hyperactive, impulsive and he's got trouble dealing with intense situations. For example:
1. He interrupts or intrudes on others; he might be unaware of his own behavior and its consequences:
.2. Can't sit quiet; he's impatient and fidgety, doesn't understand he can't get easily hurt or get other people hurt because of his rash actions:
.3. He talks excessively, he's hard to calm down:
.4. He's in constant motion, he's all over the place all the time, getting in the way and endangering himself recklessly; it takes other people to smarten him up:
.5. When he is told "no", he's got troubles accepting it:
And those are only examples from episode 4.
I already forgave him when we were pushing the truck and told him I was glad that he came along. I don't hold grudges very long and was over it in about 30 minutes time.
Already forgave him, and owned the moment. I would've liked some extended dialogue for as heavy as a topic as it was. It could've been a teachable moment as to when to use the excessive force he's been shown to be prone towards - when your family or those that matter are in immediate danger.
A lot of people think that it should be obvious that Conrad surviving was the 'right' choice. The fact of the matter is there are rarely right choices in TWD. As keen as Gabe is to emotional responses, going along with Conrad's plan could have provoked Gabe to fight for that gun upon his release or while he was being held - being shot and dying in the process( or anyone else being shot in that close quarters ). In the moment someone has a gun to someone else's head, making threats of death, you have seconds to weigh all of the outcomes. Then you either take the shot, or you don't. It was a lose/lose scenario.
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